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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I also think the longer we wind up waiting for the 47.1 decision, the more likely it is to be favorable to Blake. Liman had this whole trial wiped from his docket, including a Daubert hearing two weeks ago that would have been time consuming. Once he decides 47.1, this PITA case is out of his courtroom. So he has reason to decide swiftly and end the circus. If it was really just a matter of "this law doesn't apply I'm this court" or even "motion granted but attorneys fees only", there is no reason to sit on it or let it stretch into the summer.[/quote]

Not necessarily. He could be sick of these people and this case. It’s been such of  abuse of power, starting with the Vanzan lawsuit which was deeply unethical. Tying up federal courts like this. They could have worked out this disagreement in a number of ways, including mediation or arbitration. To launch this very public lawsuit like this is truly unforgivable and so offensive to real victims of either retaliation or sexual harassment.

Blake fans truly can’t believe she lost in this manner - to come out with no money and not even an NDA. They are clinging to a line in the Wayfarer lawyers statement that said something like she deserves to be heard as proof of victory. It’s beyond pathetic. I guess if you need this ray of hope to keep going, have it. Blake lost and she will never repair her reputation.

She obviously knows this which is why she’s going to every prominent high fashion event like Fendi and Met Gala as a big FU to all the minions to let them know I’m unbothered and I’m acting like this never happened and I’m still rich and can wear designer clothes!

It’s transparent and sad. 
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Look, I get it. You hate her. But I'm not talking about feelings or opinions about her. I don't care about the Met Gala or whatever. I don't care if Blake works again (I have never seen any of her movies) or what she wears or how much money she has. I am only interested in the legal outcome of the case and I'm very interested in how a novel California law intended to punish people who use defamation lawsuits to silence good faith abuse/harassment allegations. The celebrity stuff is a sideshow for me.

If the judge is sick of the case, he would be highly motivated to resolve this. An experienced federal judge is not a petulant child. He's not going to let a docket on a *settled* case linger, open, because he just doesn't feel like making a decision on a single outstanding motion. That makes no sense. If he's taking time with this motion, it's because it's not just a straightforward "no."

Also, while I know people on here love to flip out about Vanzan, the judge has never expressed any interest in it one way or the other. I don't think he cares. I don't think he's going to punish Blake for Vanzan by ruling against her on 47.1. Liman has been remarkable even handed through this entire thing and doesn't seem to allow his personal feelings about anyone to enter into his decisions. For instance, I strongly suspect he hates Bryan Freedman (it got to the point where Freedman almost never spoke during hearings because you could tell Liman just couldn't stand him) but that didn't stop him from ruling against Blake in dismissing most of her claims. So if you are waiting for some belated comeuppance for Vanzan, I wouldn't hold your breath. It's not at issue and I don't think Liman works that way at all.[/quote]

I never said the judge was acting like a petulant child. It seemed obvious he thought that this case should be settled without going to trial though. You can cry all you want about how he hated BF, it is safe to say he was likely fed up with both sides by the end of this case. I never said that he was going to use Vanzan to punish Blake, but reasonable people see what she did as an abuse of power.

[b]Justin did not sue her because she accused him of sexual harassment. He sued her because of the New York Times article. It’s likely why his legal team sued the New York Times first for defamation.[/b] That was actually a pretty brilliant move, even though it was a total longshot and no one thought it had a reasonable chance of going their way, but it shows that they were very upset by that article, on the same day it published, his agency fired him and his podcast cohost quit, so it obviously had immediate repercussions and he felt like he did not get a chance to tell his side of the story and show the power that she had as well as the organic backlash against her.

If Blake had just gone through legal channels, instead of trying to have a flashy New York Times article and make this a publicity case instead of a legal case, maybe she would have some recourse. But most people don’t see this going her way. Even if she is awarded something, do you really think she will be awarded anywhere near a $300 million and damages she sought? That seems like such a stretch. Again she could see some legal fees for this NARROW part of the case, but I don’t think anyone reasonably believes she’s going to get a windfall from this. [/quote]

Yes, he claimed the NYT article was defamation. And his claims were thrown out of court because it wasn't defamation. Because Blake didn't lie. Yet Baldoni and his lawyers claimed she did, in order to discredit her allegations.

There was nothing stopping Baldoni from "telling his side of the story" or defending himself in court. In fact, the ultimate defenses that prevailed in the majority of claims -- that Lively exercised too much control on the set to be considered an employee and that some of her allegations didn't qualify as SH to begin with -- turned out to be good ones. Why not just mount a normal defense? Why instead issue a 400m baseless lawsuit while collaborating with content creators like Sloane Stephens to spread a narrative about Lively being a liar and Ryan Reynolds being a master manipulator?

He filed the lawsuit to try and silence her. And 18 months later they settled while agreeing her complaints "deserved to be heard." He could have litigated the matter normally and it would have been find, instead he tried to destroy her reputation so that no one would ever believe her. Which is precisely what 47.1 is designed to deter.[/quote]

You’ve missed the whole point. The New York Times article did not give him a chance to tell his own story. They only considered Blake aside and cherry picked texts.

When he tried to tell his own story, they tried to put a gag order on him. It didn’t work, and within weeks the dance video and the website were put up and the public turned, never to return to Blake’s favor again.

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Justin could have done an interview to tell his story in a separate article. He didn't even try. He just filed what turned out to be a totally baseless defamation lawsuit.

The proposed gag order had to do with Bryan Freedman running around giving interviews where he called Blake a liar. The judge instead reminded everyone they were subject to court rules about discussing the case, and Freedman stopped, so a gag order wasn't necessary. The gag order was not trying to silence Justin's claims against Blake. Those were silenced when they were found to be baseless and dismissed.

The dance video was ambiguous and only showed how polarized people were. It didn't prove Lively's claims nor did it show her to have lied.

Most people don't care about this case or Lively, but yes, Baldoni and Freedman have created a small, vigilant army of Blake haters. Even though never showed her allegations to be lies and even agreed they deserved to be heard. I'd love only you could see how you've been manipulated. I actually feel bad for you that you lack critical thinking to understand how you've been used here.[/quote]

+1 The fact that it's women who are so easily manipulated is depressing.[/quote]

When you don’t have facts or law on your side, resort to insults and misplaced claims of misogyny.  Sad that the Blake bots have nothing else to argue beyond some women are stupid.[/quote]

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