FCPS Boundary Review Updates

Anonymous
Am I looking at the wrong slides? the maps...don't have streets? You can't zoom in and see what they are doing?
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Anonymous wrote:I think it's annoying that they didn't provide clearer maps with streets. I also think they need to explain the elementary school plan for the Hunt Valley kids that got moved to South County. Is Hunt Valley now a split feeder? Or are those kids also moving to Newington Forest (putting it way over capacity)? That's a pretty crucial part of the equation to leave out. How do you give community feedback without knowing that?

Also, is that a Sangster attendance island that is now going to SC? I can't understand that part of the map. Would that mean Sangster now has kids going to LBSS, SCSS, and WSHS?


Those are great questions. Of course, if you have those questions, some BRAC members may have had them as well, but every indication is that the next community meetings won't involve any refinement or clarification of these maps. Maybe the online tool becomes available at some point and that will help. Overall, Thru Consulting seems to do really shitty work.
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Anonymous wrote:I think it's annoying that they didn't provide clearer maps with streets. I also think they need to explain the elementary school plan for the Hunt Valley kids that got moved to South County. Is Hunt Valley now a split feeder? Or are those kids also moving to Newington Forest (putting it way over capacity)? That's a pretty crucial part of the equation to leave out. How do you give community feedback without knowing that?

Also, is that a Sangster attendance island that is now going to SC? I can't understand that part of the map. Would that mean Sangster now has kids going to LBSS, SCSS, and WSHS?


It looks TO ME like HVES is becoming a split feeder - but with how large that school is, sending ~100 or less to SCMS/HS is likely under the 75-25 split they want to avoid for split feeders. So that’s not great. The Sangster attendance island is moving to Newington Forest/SC in its entirety and out of Sangster/LB.
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Anonymous wrote:Are these actually the proposed changes or just some draft to further show how the tool works?


This is just showing over capacity. Last time it was split feeders and next it’s supposed to be another factor. I believe they are supposed to merge the 3 into a reasonable solution.


I’m pretty certain these are the merged maps. This is what they are soliciting feedback on


I think these are the merged maps.

The Sangster island moved to Newington and SoCo is shown on this map.


This map does not have the little Navy island that they shift to Oak Hill/Chantilly. I guess that's another part of Oak Hill that will go to Oakton?


It always went to Oakton. Not sure where it will be going to middle school. Franklin Farm currently on that side of the parkway goes to Carson, but Oak Hill goes to Franklin along with Navy, Waples Mill, and Lee's Corner.
The map shows them going to Oakton. Still doesn't make sense that they didn't send them to Crossfield unless this was a play to make it easier to send a portion of Oak Hill to Oakton.

For those who don't know, there will be houses with adjoining yards going to different schools from Chantilly Highlands. It violates #3 about keeping neighborhoods together and increases the commute four fold to high school. If Thru was not working with real maps, they may not have realized that there are limited outlets. It makes no sense at all--for 34 students, according to the chart.
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Anonymous wrote:I think it's annoying that they didn't provide clearer maps with streets. I also think they need to explain the elementary school plan for the Hunt Valley kids that got moved to South County. Is Hunt Valley now a split feeder? Or are those kids also moving to Newington Forest (putting it way over capacity)? That's a pretty crucial part of the equation to leave out. How do you give community feedback without knowing that?

Also, is that a Sangster attendance island that is now going to SC? I can't understand that part of the map. Would that mean Sangster now has kids going to LBSS, SCSS, and WSHS?


It looks TO ME like HVES is becoming a split feeder - but with how large that school is, sending ~100 or less to SCMS/HS is likely under the 75-25 split they want to avoid for split feeders. So that’s not great. The Sangster attendance island is moving to Newington Forest/SC in its entirety and out of Sangster/LB.


They are suggesting the boundary change would move 178 kids from West Springfield to South County, so that implies an even larger number of HVES students would be zoned to South County. 25% of Hunt Valley currently would be 184 students.

But they didn't appear to be paying attention earlier as to whether the new split feeders they were creating involved at least a 25-75% split.
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Anonymous wrote:So are those HV neighborhoods also moving to newington forest or did they create a new HV split feeder by moving 90 kids?


90 kids is at the middle school level (2 grades)

The high school map shows 178 students (4 grades)

Translating those 6 grades of kids into the 7 grades of elementary school means tgat we are looking at around 300+ Hunt Valley kids.

Fcps is not moving 300 elementary kids anywhere, and certainly not Newington which only has space for a few dozen.

Hunt Valley will become a split feeder.
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Anonymous wrote:So are those HV neighborhoods also moving to newington forest or did they create a new HV split feeder by moving 90 kids?


90 kids is at the middle school level (2 grades)

The high school map shows 178 students (4 grades)

Translating those 6 grades of kids into the 7 grades of elementary school means tgat we are looking at around 300+ Hunt Valley kids.

Fcps is not moving 300 elementary kids anywhere, and certainly not Newington which only has space for a few dozen.

Hunt Valley will become a split feeder.


The extra silly part is Newington Forest just got a renovation and a slight expansion to get rid of its trailers. This was completed a year or so before Covid. Now there’s yet again no capacity there.
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Anonymous wrote:Am I looking at the wrong slides? the maps...don't have streets? You can't zoom in and see what they are doing?


They show the main roads with blurred labels.

For Hunt Valley, you can barely read the numbers for the Fairfax County Pkwy.

Frim there, once you have the parkway, you can orientate the entire map.
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The School Board adopted a policy that, on its face, troubled many Langley parents because it expressly said the Superintendent needed to focus on transportation times when considering any boundary changes.

And then Reid went out and hired a consultant that has paid no attention to transportation times, and the School Board has done nothing to object to the non-compliance with the policy they adopted just last year.

The corruption could not be more obvious, regardless of whose nephew may or may not attend Langley.
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Anonymous wrote:If kids are in 9th or 10th grade, they still get moved? That seems insane to me.


And 11th grade.

Only seniors stay


Kids who are in 11th the year prior are the same ones that will be seniors, silly.


and this then goes back to the whole IB/AP issue. So kids who started in AP HS would have to move to IB? Or vice versa? That's crazy. Is that how it happened in the past - no grandfathering?


No, of course not.

In the past, when there were boundary changes of this magnitude across the county, there were no IB schools.

And, more recently, when kids were moved from AP to IB schools or vice versa in a one-off boundary change that only involved a few schools, there was generous grandfathering.

They appear to be creating a nightmare scenario where the scope of the changes would now preclude grandfathering, but kids are moved from AP schools to IB schools and vice versa.
Anonymous
I live out in Chantilly.

I have never seen someone explain which kids could fill Langley. You can mock it all you wish, but I understand feeling a connection with the high school your neighborhood attends.
I know that when the Langley boundaries were drawn that Herndon was crowded and not considered a struggling school. And, now, you want to change it--not because Herndon is underenrolled, but because it has high FARMS.

For years, Great Falls has supported Langley. At some point, if Tyson's gets the growth expected--along with school children--that will be the time to change the boundaries. For now, there appears no place to pick up kids to fill Langley.

If FCPS wants to fill Herndon, then eliminate IB at South Lakes and other county schools. Believe me, the people at South Lakes would like to get rid of it, too.
Anonymous
Really vital insight from a BRAC member posted on FairFACTS matters. Seems like alot of BRAC members were very frustrated with the the data and information received. Their analysis seems lackluster.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1EGwNbnbMJ/?

I do agree that FCPS probably backed off with some of the new presidential equity threats. And very abundant and vocal parent feedback.

It sucks that many are still going through these changes that are not needed but they are having to move forward because they paid an incompetent consulting firm and need some type of result.
Anonymous
What about Coates? Are they going to wait until 2026 to implement new elementary boundaries?
Anonymous
It seems like Thru came up with something because they HAD to, but were far more limited than FCPS originally intended. The result is some things that do not appear to make any sense and run counter to the existing guidance in 8130.8.

If you are affected by a weird proposal, I would treat the “odd proposals” as a softball tossed to you by Thru. Identify all the relevant factors in 8130.8 and how they are not met/guide counter to the proposal. Then provide that feedback in the upcoming sessions and to your SB reps.

The way I understand the process, Thru will take thud feedback, but it is up to Reid to make a proposal and the SB to accept or deny the proposal. 8130.8 provides for a number of areas for superintendent discretion. Focus on those:

https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/D7HREM6DA7C5/$file/P8130.pdf

Focus on the factors on page 3.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's annoying that they didn't provide clearer maps with streets. I also think they need to explain the elementary school plan for the Hunt Valley kids that got moved to South County. Is Hunt Valley now a split feeder? Or are those kids also moving to Newington Forest (putting it way over capacity)? That's a pretty crucial part of the equation to leave out. How do you give community feedback without knowing that?

Also, is that a Sangster attendance island that is now going to SC? I can't understand that part of the map. Would that mean Sangster now has kids going to LBSS, SCSS, and WSHS?


Yes with the AAP center, Sangster would have students going to 3 different middle/high schools.
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