Gaza War, Part 3

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Anonymous wrote:Hi all. I have a question but I don’t want to ask publicly because it might be dumb. I do not understand why the Palestinians - at a minimum the women and children - cannot be relocated to a refugee camp?

It seems to me we all can agree that Palestinian children are INNOCENT. Can the other countries not work together to create and transport them to a refugee camp, maybe in Egypt or Lebanon? It’s nuts that children are still in harms way.

First, and unfortunately, we can’t all seem to agree that Palestinian children are innocent. That’s why theres so much vocal defense of the bombing of civilian infrastructure/indiscriminate killing.

But the reason they cannot all be “transported” to Egypt or Lebanon is because they would never be allowed to return to Gaza or the West Bank. They would become permanently stateless. Forcible deportation is a war crime (goes by the name of “ethnic cleansing”) and while the Israeli government is pushing hard for such cleansing to take place, the neighboring states are not willing to be party to a war crime.

So it’s best to leave them in harms way? Interestingly most countries offered Ukrainians a way out of Ukraine, knowing that most likely they will never return to the occupied areas. Such an idiotic argument, we would rather let them die …

Ukrainian refugees were never at risk of statelessness. Making someone stateless is a pretty big deal. There are UN conventions on it.

More than half of Gaza is under 18. Meaning you’re talking about a million refugees. Where does the money come to feed, house, educate, and provide medical care for a million children? Lebanon is a financial mess and Egypt isn’t doing much better— so who pays?

Personally as a taxpayer I’d rather we stop funding the bombs. Then we don’t need to fund a new war crime either.

Doesn’t answer the question of why it’s better to let them stay in harms way. UN and the rest of the world was already spending billions of dollars on Gaza annually. That money can be rerouted to the actual refugee camps .

It’s better for them not to be in harms way. There is no doubt.

But there’s no option to evacuate them. Lebanon doesn’t share a border with Gaza, and Israel insists on vetting every single person out of Rafah. Israel could set up a refugee camp for them in Israel, as they are the sole beneficiaries of ethnic cleansing in Gaza, but there’s no reason for Egypt or Lebanon to help commit a war crime.

There is no Israel at the Radha crossing. Egypt has actively participated in Gaza blockade. Egypt does not want Palestinians. Clearly Israel is not going to take them. Seems like the Muslim brothers could do more to help. They just don’t want to . Let’s call a spade what it is, a spade.

Israel asked Egypt to open the Sinai to the refugees, Egypt said no.

You break, you pay. It’s Israel’s problem. I hear they are asking Congo, all while asking people to sign up for prime beachfront real estate in Gaza. Something about gods promise or whatever.

Israel is not " asking" the Congo and Rawanda to take the Palestinians they are forceably displacing - they are blackmailing and bribing just like they tried ot pressure Egypt by offering to buy and cancel their trillions of debt ( if only ) they would just open the Rafah border on cue as the IDF tried to force Palestinians across the border

They are not " negotiating " in private they are bullying in private- that is why they are being outed

The end result of this war won't be what the R wing zealot Likud government has been aspiring to for 50 years:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1c-DSZ_l9Q

It will be , instead, the whole world seeing the ugly truth of what Israel has allowed itself to become

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Anonymous wrote:Virtually everything Hamas does, in fighting against Israel, is a war crime and immoral.

Hamas has done rocket strikes . They aren’t a war crime because they don’t do much damage or kill mass amounts of people to quantify as war crime .

Hamas only has one war crime to their name in 30 years and that’s 10/7.

Israel has hundreds of war crimes before there was even war -pre-10/7. Killing journalists , arresting minors indefinitely without charge, allowing settlers to settle illegally outside of the borders of Israel and harrass, evict, and kill civilians are all acts of war.

It’s just that Hamas isn’t dumb enough to strike right after Israel killed Christian American journalist Shireen Abu Aqleh or raided the Al Aqsa Mosque . Israel is always on high alert and cracks down on Palestinians right after an incident . Hamas wanted to get Israel by surprise when nothing was going on the same way Palestinians in the West Bank were caught by surprise and killed when nothing was going on. That poor woman was killed while on the air doing a report. She’s a mother from New Jersey and Israel lied and said they didn’t do it and even killed people at her funeral. Was it all worth it to bully the West Bank ?
Now they are going to be worse than Hamas in five years after Abbas dies.

Israel makes foolish mistake after mistake . Obama warned Bibi years ago to keep the peace in the West Bank so Hamas will die out on own.

Hamas doesn’t have the albatross around its neck in my estimation even if 100k Gazans die. The greatest power is influence and Israel loses more popularity and control over the narrative the more it continues on the war . At this point, the only thing to let Israel win back public opinion is another Hamas
Attack on Israel to justify an extended war on the part of Israel. Hamas has if you noticed stop bombing Israel . It’s not because they don’t have rockets. It’s because they want to play the woe is me card to the world and it’s sadly working

Hamas Embedding within civilian infrastructure in the manner they do is a War Crime. Firing rockets at civilians is a War Crime. Hijacking humanitarian aid, as alleged, is a War Crime. Using hospitals, mosques, schools, for military purposes is a War Crime. The list goes on. Pretty certain they are low on rockets. Out of them? No. Israel found 30,000 Hamas weapons in the north.

I’m a DP and you’re correct.

But all you’ve proven is that both sides have committed war crimes. That doesn’t absolve either side.

Zero proof of Israeli war crimes.

White Phosphorus causes fourth degree burns up to 5,000 degrees Fahrenheit which means it can burn through flesh and bone and disintegrate bone within second and has been used by Israel in Lebanon and Gaza predominantly on infants and children.

The use of white phosphorus is a war crime. It burns and is worse than what the Nazis used . It’s horrendous to do that rather than fight a real ground wars that’s the only way to actually fight Hamas. They went on the ground in Israel. Israel couldve went on the ground in Gaza. It’s literally the size of Manhattan. It’s tiny

Denied illegal use by Israel. And news alert! Israel is "on the ground" in the Strip called Gaza.

[Anonymous]

Jerusalem Post reporting at this time:

"Hezbollah and foreign media reports claimed on Monday that the IDF killed Wissam al-Tawil, known as Jawad, a key operations commander in southern Lebanon, in an air strike in Khirbat Salem, Lebanon."

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Anonymous wrote:Virtually everything Hamas does, in fighting against Israel, is a war crime and immoral.

Hamas has done rocket strikes . They aren’t a war crime because they don’t do much damage or kill mass amounts of people to quantify as war crime .

Hamas only has one war crime to their name in 30 years and that’s 10/7.

Israel has hundreds of war crimes before there was even war -pre-10/7. Killing journalists , arresting minors indefinitely without charge, allowing settlers to settle illegally outside of the borders of Israel and harrass, evict, and kill civilians are all acts of war.

It’s just that Hamas isn’t dumb enough to strike right after Israel killed Christian American journalist Shireen Abu Aqleh or raided the Al Aqsa Mosque . Israel is always on high alert and cracks down on Palestinians right after an incident . Hamas wanted to get Israel by surprise when nothing was going on the same way Palestinians in the West Bank were caught by surprise and killed when nothing was going on. That poor woman was killed while on the air doing a report. She’s a mother from New Jersey and Israel lied and said they didn’t do it and even killed people at her funeral. Was it all worth it to bully the West Bank ?
Now they are going to be worse than Hamas in five years after Abbas dies.

Israel makes foolish mistake after mistake . Obama warned Bibi years ago to keep the peace in the West Bank so Hamas will die out on own.

Hamas doesn’t have the albatross around its neck in my estimation even if 100k Gazans die. The greatest power is influence and Israel loses more popularity and control over the narrative the more it continues on the war . At this point, the only thing to let Israel win back public opinion is another Hamas
Attack on Israel to justify an extended war on the part of Israel. Hamas has if you noticed stop bombing Israel . It’s not because they don’t have rockets. It’s because they want to play the woe is me card to the world and it’s sadly working

Hamas Embedding within civilian infrastructure in the manner they do is a War Crime. Firing rockets at civilians is a War Crime. Hijacking humanitarian aid, as alleged, is a War Crime. Using hospitals, mosques, schools, for military purposes is a War Crime. The list goes on. Pretty certain they are low on rockets. Out of them? No. Israel found 30,000 Hamas weapons in the north.

I’m a DP and you’re correct.

But all you’ve proven is that both sides have committed war crimes. That doesn’t absolve either side.

Zero proof of Israeli war crimes.

White Phosphorus causes fourth degree burns up to 5,000 degrees Fahrenheit which means it can burn through flesh and bone and disintegrate bone within second and has been used by Israel in Lebanon and Gaza predominantly on infants and children.

The use of white phosphorus is a war crime. It burns and is worse than what the Nazis used . It’s horrendous to do that rather than fight a real ground wars that’s the only way to actually fight Hamas. They went on the ground in Israel. Israel couldve went on the ground in Gaza. It’s literally the size of Manhattan. It’s tiny

Denied illegal use by Israel. And news alert! Israel is "on the ground" in the Strip called Gaza.

Yes, it is common for people charged with crimes to deny them. European doctors observed its use by Israel against civilians previously.

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Anonymous wrote:Virtually everything Hamas does, in fighting against Israel, is a war crime and immoral.

Hamas has done rocket strikes . They aren’t a war crime because they don’t do much damage or kill mass amounts of people to quantify as war crime .

Hamas only has one war crime to their name in 30 years and that’s 10/7.

Israel has hundreds of war crimes before there was even war -pre-10/7. Killing journalists , arresting minors indefinitely without charge, allowing settlers to settle illegally outside of the borders of Israel and harrass, evict, and kill civilians are all acts of war.

It’s just that Hamas isn’t dumb enough to strike right after Israel killed Christian American journalist Shireen Abu Aqleh or raided the Al Aqsa Mosque . Israel is always on high alert and cracks down on Palestinians right after an incident . Hamas wanted to get Israel by surprise when nothing was going on the same way Palestinians in the West Bank were caught by surprise and killed when nothing was going on. That poor woman was killed while on the air doing a report. She’s a mother from New Jersey and Israel lied and said they didn’t do it and even killed people at her funeral. Was it all worth it to bully the West Bank ?
Now they are going to be worse than Hamas in five years after Abbas dies.

Israel makes foolish mistake after mistake . Obama warned Bibi years ago to keep the peace in the West Bank so Hamas will die out on own.

Hamas doesn’t have the albatross around its neck in my estimation even if 100k Gazans die. The greatest power is influence and Israel loses more popularity and control over the narrative the more it continues on the war . At this point, the only thing to let Israel win back public opinion is another Hamas
Attack on Israel to justify an extended war on the part of Israel. Hamas has if you noticed stop bombing Israel . It’s not because they don’t have rockets. It’s because they want to play the woe is me card to the world and it’s sadly working

Hamas Embedding within civilian infrastructure in the manner they do is a War Crime. Firing rockets at civilians is a War Crime. Hijacking humanitarian aid, as alleged, is a War Crime. Using hospitals, mosques, schools, for military purposes is a War Crime. The list goes on. Pretty certain they are low on rockets. Out of them? No. Israel found 30,000 Hamas weapons in the north.

I’m a DP and you’re correct.

But all you’ve proven is that both sides have committed war crimes. That doesn’t absolve either side.

Zero proof of Israeli war crimes.

White Phosphorus causes fourth degree burns up to 5,000 degrees Fahrenheit which means it can burn through flesh and bone and disintegrate bone within second and has been used by Israel in Lebanon and Gaza predominantly on infants and children.

The use of white phosphorus is a war crime. It burns and is worse than what the Nazis used . It’s horrendous to do that rather than fight a real ground wars that’s the only way to actually fight Hamas. They went on the ground in Israel. Israel couldve went on the ground in Gaza. It’s literally the size of Manhattan. It’s tiny

Denied illegal use by Israel. And news alert! Israel is "on the ground" in the Strip called Gaza.

Yes, it is common for people charged with crimes to deny them. European doctors observed its use by Israel against civilians previously.

It has legal and illegal uses. Again, they deny it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Of all the things that don’t make sense, killing Al Jazeera journalists makes zero sense.

Occupational hazard of riding with a terrorist drone operator.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Virtually everything Hamas does, in fighting against Israel, is a war crime and immoral.

Hamas has done rocket strikes . They aren’t a war crime because they don’t do much damage or kill mass amounts of people to quantify as war crime .

Hamas only has one war crime to their name in 30 years and that’s 10/7.

Israel has hundreds of war crimes before there was even war -pre-10/7. Killing journalists , arresting minors indefinitely without charge, allowing settlers to settle illegally outside of the borders of Israel and harrass, evict, and kill civilians are all acts of war.

It’s just that Hamas isn’t dumb enough to strike right after Israel killed Christian American journalist Shireen Abu Aqleh or raided the Al Aqsa Mosque . Israel is always on high alert and cracks down on Palestinians right after an incident . Hamas wanted to get Israel by surprise when nothing was going on the same way Palestinians in the West Bank were caught by surprise and killed when nothing was going on. That poor woman was killed while on the air doing a report. She’s a mother from New Jersey and Israel lied and said they didn’t do it and even killed people at her funeral. Was it all worth it to bully the West Bank ?
Now they are going to be worse than Hamas in five years after Abbas dies.

Israel makes foolish mistake after mistake . Obama warned Bibi years ago to keep the peace in the West Bank so Hamas will die out on own.

Hamas doesn’t have the albatross around its neck in my estimation even if 100k Gazans die. The greatest power is influence and Israel loses more popularity and control over the narrative the more it continues on the war . At this point, the only thing to let Israel win back public opinion is another Hamas
Attack on Israel to justify an extended war on the part of Israel. Hamas has if you noticed stop bombing Israel . It’s not because they don’t have rockets. It’s because they want to play the woe is me card to the world and it’s sadly working

Hamas Embedding within civilian infrastructure in the manner they do is a War Crime. Firing rockets at civilians is a War Crime. Hijacking humanitarian aid, as alleged, is a War Crime. Using hospitals, mosques, schools, for military purposes is a War Crime. The list goes on. Pretty certain they are low on rockets. Out of them? No. Israel found 30,000 Hamas weapons in the north.

I’m a DP and you’re correct.

But all you’ve proven is that both sides have committed war crimes. That doesn’t absolve either side.

Zero proof of Israeli war crimes.

White Phosphorus causes fourth degree burns up to 5,000 degrees Fahrenheit which means it can burn through flesh and bone and disintegrate bone within second and has been used by Israel in Lebanon and Gaza predominantly on infants and children.

The use of white phosphorus is a war crime. It burns and is worse than what the Nazis used . It’s horrendous to do that rather than fight a real ground wars that’s the only way to actually fight Hamas. They went on the ground in Israel. Israel couldve went on the ground in Gaza. It’s literally the size of Manhattan. It’s tiny

But what they cited as evidence for the IDF's use of white phosphorus against Gazan infants and children turned out to be footage of Russian incendiary attacks on Ukraine. And then they go back to supporting Russia and Hamas anyhow.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Virtually everything Hamas does, in fighting against Israel, is a war crime and immoral.

Hamas has done rocket strikes . They aren’t a war crime because they don’t do much damage or kill mass amounts of people to quantify as war crime .

Hamas only has one war crime to their name in 30 years and that’s 10/7.

Israel has hundreds of war crimes before there was even war -pre-10/7. Killing journalists , arresting minors indefinitely without charge, allowing settlers to settle illegally outside of the borders of Israel and harrass, evict, and kill civilians are all acts of war.

It’s just that Hamas isn’t dumb enough to strike right after Israel killed Christian American journalist Shireen Abu Aqleh or raided the Al Aqsa Mosque . Israel is always on high alert and cracks down on Palestinians right after an incident . Hamas wanted to get Israel by surprise when nothing was going on the same way Palestinians in the West Bank were caught by surprise and killed when nothing was going on. That poor woman was killed while on the air doing a report. She’s a mother from New Jersey and Israel lied and said they didn’t do it and even killed people at her funeral. Was it all worth it to bully the West Bank ?
Now they are going to be worse than Hamas in five years after Abbas dies.

Israel makes foolish mistake after mistake . Obama warned Bibi years ago to keep the peace in the West Bank so Hamas will die out on own.

Hamas doesn’t have the albatross around its neck in my estimation even if 100k Gazans die. The greatest power is influence and Israel loses more popularity and control over the narrative the more it continues on the war . At this point, the only thing to let Israel win back public opinion is another Hamas
Attack on Israel to justify an extended war on the part of Israel. Hamas has if you noticed stop bombing Israel . It’s not because they don’t have rockets. It’s because they want to play the woe is me card to the world and it’s sadly working

Hamas Embedding within civilian infrastructure in the manner they do is a War Crime. Firing rockets at civilians is a War Crime. Hijacking humanitarian aid, as alleged, is a War Crime. Using hospitals, mosques, schools, for military purposes is a War Crime. The list goes on. Pretty certain they are low on rockets. Out of them? No. Israel found 30,000 Hamas weapons in the north.

I’m a DP and you’re correct.

But all you’ve proven is that both sides have committed war crimes. That doesn’t absolve either side.

Zero proof of Israeli war crimes.

White Phosphorus causes fourth degree burns up to 5,000 degrees Fahrenheit which means it can burn through flesh and bone and disintegrate bone within second and has been used by Israel in Lebanon and Gaza predominantly on infants and children.

The use of white phosphorus is a war crime. It burns and is worse than what the Nazis used . It’s horrendous to do that rather than fight a real ground wars that’s the only way to actually fight Hamas. They went on the ground in Israel. Israel couldve went on the ground in Gaza. It’s literally the size of Manhattan. It’s tiny

But what they cited as evidence for the IDF's use of white phosphorus against Gazan infants and children turned out to be footage of Russian incendiary attacks on Ukraine. And then they go back to supporting Russia and Hamas anyhow.

Like the "cut open pregnant lady and stabbed fetus" photo on Israel's first lady twitter turned out to be from 2017 Mexico cartel?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Virtually everything Hamas does, in fighting against Israel, is a war crime and immoral.

Hamas has done rocket strikes . They aren’t a war crime because they don’t do much damage or kill mass amounts of people to quantify as war crime .

Hamas only has one war crime to their name in 30 years and that’s 10/7.

Israel has hundreds of war crimes before there was even war -pre-10/7. Killing journalists , arresting minors indefinitely without charge, allowing settlers to settle illegally outside of the borders of Israel and harrass, evict, and kill civilians are all acts of war.

It’s just that Hamas isn’t dumb enough to strike right after Israel killed Christian American journalist Shireen Abu Aqleh or raided the Al Aqsa Mosque . Israel is always on high alert and cracks down on Palestinians right after an incident . Hamas wanted to get Israel by surprise when nothing was going on the same way Palestinians in the West Bank were caught by surprise and killed when nothing was going on. That poor woman was killed while on the air doing a report. She’s a mother from New Jersey and Israel lied and said they didn’t do it and even killed people at her funeral. Was it all worth it to bully the West Bank ?
Now they are going to be worse than Hamas in five years after Abbas dies.

Israel makes foolish mistake after mistake . Obama warned Bibi years ago to keep the peace in the West Bank so Hamas will die out on own.

Hamas doesn’t have the albatross around its neck in my estimation even if 100k Gazans die. The greatest power is influence and Israel loses more popularity and control over the narrative the more it continues on the war . At this point, the only thing to let Israel win back public opinion is another Hamas
Attack on Israel to justify an extended war on the part of Israel. Hamas has if you noticed stop bombing Israel . It’s not because they don’t have rockets. It’s because they want to play the woe is me card to the world and it’s sadly working

Hamas Embedding within civilian infrastructure in the manner they do is a War Crime. Firing rockets at civilians is a War Crime. Hijacking humanitarian aid, as alleged, is a War Crime. Using hospitals, mosques, schools, for military purposes is a War Crime. The list goes on. Pretty certain they are low on rockets. Out of them? No. Israel found 30,000 Hamas weapons in the north.

I’m a DP and you’re correct.

But all you’ve proven is that both sides have committed war crimes. That doesn’t absolve either side.

Zero proof of Israeli war crimes.

White Phosphorus causes fourth degree burns up to 5,000 degrees Fahrenheit which means it can burn through flesh and bone and disintegrate bone within second and has been used by Israel in Lebanon and Gaza predominantly on infants and children.

The use of white phosphorus is a war crime. It burns and is worse than what the Nazis used . It’s horrendous to do that rather than fight a real ground wars that’s the only way to actually fight Hamas. They went on the ground in Israel. Israel couldve went on the ground in Gaza. It’s literally the size of Manhattan. It’s tiny

Denied illegal use by Israel. And news alert! Israel is "on the ground" in the Strip called Gaza.

Yes, it is common for people charged with crimes to deny them. European doctors observed its use by Israel against civilians previously.

It has legal and illegal uses. Again, they deny it.

LOL Hamas denied raping anyone too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Of all the things that don’t make sense, killing Al Jazeera journalists makes zero sense.

Occupational hazard of riding with a terrorist drone operator.

They could have said he rode with Sinwar himself - who'd be there to challenge them? What are they gonna say? yeah we killed him 'cause we hate him?

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Of all the things that don’t make sense, killing Al Jazeera journalists makes zero sense.

Occupational hazard of riding with a terrorist drone operator.

They could have said he rode with Sinwar himself - who'd be there to challenge them? What are they gonna say? yeah we killed him 'cause we hate him?

You seem really invested in this journalist's importance. But I don't see any arguments against the occupational hazard bit.

[Anonymous]

For the policy wonks: Middle East analyst Mouin Rabbani explains the background of ICC history (and hypocrisy) on the Israeli-Palestine conflict, and what it promises for the future. I found it very informative.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Of all the things that don’t make sense, killing Al Jazeera journalists makes zero sense.

Occupational hazard of riding with a terrorist drone operator.

They could have said he rode with Sinwar himself - who'd be there to challenge them? What are they gonna say? yeah we killed him 'cause we hate him?

You seem really invested in this journalist's importance. But I don't see any arguments against the occupational hazard bit.

Other than it's a lie?

Occupational hazard seems to be "working for Al-Jazeera" as Israel seems very invested in shortening their journalists' life expectancy. Being American, Christian and a global superstar didn't save Shirin Abu Akleh, after all.

[Anonymous]

IDF thuggery.

The "brave men and women of IDF" at war with clocks.