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Anonymous wrote:Did not realize Centreville housing stock had so many $2 million houses lol.

Valor is SYA and CYA. There are quite a few of us with $1.5 mil and up homes after this most recent run up in the area east of the Sully Highlands fields, where most practices are held. My kids when they played for Valor both only had academy once a week in Centreville, everything else was at Sully. Once you go east of Lawyers Rd and Fox Mill Rd you'll encounter a lot of $2 mil and up homes.

DP. When I think about someone who owns a $2 million home paying for Valor for multiple years, the phrase "more money than sense" comes to mind.

All in after tournaments and all fees, what we paid for Valor is about $400 a year off what we pay for our new club. We also got winter indoor soccer or futsal included in the Valor price (boy played indoor, girl's team did futsal at the CYA fieldhouse). The price seems comparable.
Now that they are older it's about the team and coaching - but those first few years it really didn't matter what club you played for. We went with convenience and where our kids' CYA rec friends were going to play. They had fun and that made them enjoy the game of soccer.

The intra-club futsal at the fieldhouse is a joke. I'd rather have paid extra to join a real futsal league, but Valor stopped doing that because they were getting absolutely spanked by real clubs.

My DC really enjoyed the futsal. To each their own.

Not saying my kid didn't enjoy it. They mostly did, depending on who showed up that week. But futsal is supposed to help with development. It's not as beneficial when there is zero futsal instruction or training and just scrimmaging once per week. Other clubs do a real futsal program with training and actual coaching in futsal.

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Anonymous wrote:All of this was wasted effort just to say the price difference isn't that much, and certainly not enough to warrant the effort you spend harping on it. All your other points about coaches and development may be valid, but no one cares about the price - except you, apparently. Having closer fields and other families nearby on the same team to carpool with are more than worth a couple hundred dollars A YEAR. Maybe you don't value your time as much as you should - or maybe it really is worthless seeing how you spend so much of it here posting about a club you don't even have kids at since you hate them so much. Like, what drives you to monitor this thread so much?

Overpriced Tract House Mom, why are you here every day for years posting to argue with what you think is just one troll? What drives you to monitor this thread so much?

The same few trolls are offended when their b.s. is called out and zero thought to why they spend so much time here trolling

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Anonymous wrote:All of this was wasted effort just to say the price difference isn't that much, and certainly not enough to warrant the effort you spend harping on it. All your other points about coaches and development may be valid, but no one cares about the price - except you, apparently. Having closer fields and other families nearby on the same team to carpool with are more than worth a couple hundred dollars A YEAR. Maybe you don't value your time as much as you should - or maybe it really is worthless seeing how you spend so much of it here posting about a club you don't even have kids at since you hate them so much. Like, what drives you to monitor this thread so much?

Overpriced Tract House Mom, why are you here every day for years posting to argue with what you think is just one troll? What drives you to monitor this thread so much?

I bet this is South Lakes mom going on about the price of homes off Fox Mill Rd and nearby areas. That's where homes in that area go to HS, and it's not the typical area Valor pulls from. Most of those kids will do GFR, Herndon, or Vienna depending on where they started for rec.

No, South Lakes mom writes like a teenager. She stopped posting after thoroughly embarrassing herself.

The valor employee who posts sometimes is also a poor writer.

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Anonymous wrote:These people have been all over the rec practices trying to poach kids off the rec teams. My child, who is good but not great, was asked to join (not to try out, but flat out to join) valor. No thank you.

I just came to post about this. Some Valor weirdo showed up at my friend's dc's rec team practice and started asking kids for their names. It sounded very creep-tastic. They didn't even approach the coach first. The rec families have no relationship with Valor--they play for CYA or SYA and there shouldn't be strangers skulking around rec practices talking to the kids!

The person that was recruiting was only talking to coaches and getting parents' names.

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of good rec kids who might be interested in travel soccer if it was mentioned to them. The majority of travel programs look to their own rec programs because to some degree it is a partnership. Two of the best players on my son's team are Hispanic and their parents didn't know (or maybe understand) what travel soccer was until the coach went and watched some rec games when they were going into U10. I see absolutely no issue here. If a coach from any club was strolling around another club's rec fields, that's creepy. Valor coaches watching CYA or SYA rec is totally logical.

Valor is not SYA or CYA. Valor was created to be a completely separate org so the head Valor guys could pay themselves a lot more.

Valor is run out of the same place as CYA. It is 100% associated with CYA (and I assume also SYA). The CYA website flat out says it is the path to Valor.

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Anonymous wrote:I would be furious if some random Valor coach was sneaking around my child's rec practice trying to talk to them. That's extremely disturbing. We want nothing to do with such an unscrupulous organization.

I woud be offended if some Valor coach showed up and insulted my kid with a hard sell on playing for his sh!tty fifth level travel team. If my kid wanted to play travel, I would take him to tryouts to make an actual real team. No need to insult kids--and the 5th team is an insult-- just trying to enjoy their rec practices.

It wasn't practice, it was games.

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I am pretty confident that a lot of the posts here are other clubs looking for more players!

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Anonymous wrote:I am pretty confident that a lot of the posts here are other clubs looking for more players!

We had a number of Valor girls come out from their top team, which we played this year. We had one added to the second team from what I was told by that TM so not sure if agree with your statement.

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of good rec kids who might be interested in travel soccer if it was mentioned to them. The majority of travel programs look to their own rec programs because to some degree it is a partnership. Two of the best players on my son's team are Hispanic and their parents didn't know (or maybe understand) what travel soccer was until the coach went and watched some rec games when they were going into U10. I see absolutely no issue here. If a coach from any club was strolling around another club's rec fields, that's creepy. Valor coaches watching CYA or SYA rec is totally logical.

Valor is not SYA or CYA. Valor was created to be a completely separate org so the head Valor guys could pay themselves a lot more.

Valor is run out of the same place as CYA. It is 100% associated with CYA (and I assume also SYA). The CYA website flat out says it is the path to Valor.

They are separate entities. No more related that Valor and FVU.

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of good rec kids who might be interested in travel soccer if it was mentioned to them. The majority of travel programs look to their own rec programs because to some degree it is a partnership. Two of the best players on my son's team are Hispanic and their parents didn't know (or maybe understand) what travel soccer was until the coach went and watched some rec games when they were going into U10. I see absolutely no issue here. If a coach from any club was strolling around another club's rec fields, that's creepy. Valor coaches watching CYA or SYA rec is totally logical.

Valor is not SYA or CYA. Valor was created to be a completely separate org so the head Valor guys could pay themselves a lot more.

Valor is run out of the same place as CYA. It is 100% associated with CYA (and I assume also SYA). The CYA website flat out says it is the path to Valor.

They are separate entities. No more related that Valor and FVU.

Oh is that why Valor guys are at CYA rec academy practices and games for younger kids? (That’s the only age range I am familiar with). They are always there wearing their Valor shirts.

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Anonymous wrote:Again with the cost difference. When you factor in everything it's a few hundred dollars more at most. For most people adding an extra hour (30 min each way) 3 times a week transportation costs plus time is more than worth a few hundred dollars. And the nonsense with the no development. At young ages all kids need are touches on the ball. If they aren't improving by even just scrimmaging 3 times a week they aren't going to be good no matter how much you want to throw at private training.

Most people live just as close to reputable clubs as they do to Valor.

And, many wealthy people still want value for their fees and that includes actual soccer training. If you want to overpay so your kids can play expensive rec and not improve at soccer, well, you are Valor's target customer so glad you are both happy!)

Did not realize Centreville housing stock had so many $2 million houses lol.

Name one of these “reputable” clubs and give us a definition of what “reputable” means.

Did you just move here? There are 100 decent soccer orgs within a 20 minute drive of Valorland. BRYC, FPYC, Vienna, SYC, Burke, Manassas Soccer Club, NVSC, VSA, Herndon, PAC, Loudoun, VRSC...the list goes on and on.

Every club you listed (and those that are part of the “the list goes on and on”) are subject to the same criticisms

Could you link us to the 300 page complaint threads for all these other clubs, I must have missed them.

Same few trolls filling up 300 pages.

please stop valor marketing guy.

Feel free to start a new topic trolling BRYC, FPYC, Vienna, SYC, BAC. OH WAIT none of those clubs have the same basic, elementary, and recuring issues like Valor.

Bruh… this was admittedly funny and well timed the first couple times you used the “valor marketing” joke. It’s been a year though… a year… of you posting this at least once a week on here. You’re like the autistic kid in class who made everyone laugh one time but now you keep making the same joke throughout the year.

🤡“300 pAgEs oF CoMpLaiNts”… you single handily make up at least a 1/3 of this thread with rage bait. This club definitely deserves the legit complaints, but I’ve regrettably followed this thread long enough to know you also have some kind of weird obsession with this club. It’s quite literally your daily routine - wake up, get on DC Urban Moms and Dads, and hit refresh until you see a chance to troll. Normal people don’t stalk instagram posts, look up tournament results of kids’ teams they have zero relationship with, or analyze financial reports.

Did the mean Scottish guy touch you or something?

4-5 teams per age group…50+ teams with 13-16 kids per team. I guess all the parents on Valor must be satisfied customers. Am I right bruh. No need to downplay this club has major issues.

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Anonymous wrote:Did not realize Centreville housing stock had so many $2 million houses lol.

Valor is SYA and CYA. There are quite a few of us with $1.5 mil and up homes after this most recent run up in the area east of the Sully Highlands fields, where most practices are held. My kids when they played for Valor both only had academy once a week in Centreville, everything else was at Sully. Once you go east of Lawyers Rd and Fox Mill Rd you'll encounter a lot of $2 mil and up homes.

DP. When I think about someone who owns a $2 million home paying for Valor for multiple years, the phrase "more money than sense" comes to mind.

All in after tournaments and all fees, what we paid for Valor is about $400 a year off what we pay for our new club. We also got winter indoor soccer or futsal included in the Valor price (boy played indoor, girl's team did futsal at the CYA fieldhouse). The price seems comparable.
Now that they are older it's about the team and coaching - but those first few years it really didn't matter what club you played for. We went with convenience and where our kids' CYA rec friends were going to play. They had fun and that made them enjoy the game of soccer.

Quality training at a young age is incredibly important. Developing early and cultivating good habits (skills) are essential for competitiveness. Children in this field take years to grow before achieving specific milestones. To claim it doesn't matter is somewhat shortsighted.

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Anonymous wrote:I am pretty confident that a lot of the posts here are other clubs looking for more players!

We had a number of Valor girls come out from their top team, which we played this year. We had one added to the second team from what I was told by that TM so not sure if agree with your statement.

Clubs don't want poorly trained players. Valor kids from their ECNL-RL team came and tried out for my son's team this season, and only made the second team (they all declined).

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Anonymous wrote:Did not realize Centreville housing stock had so many $2 million houses lol.

Valor is SYA and CYA. There are quite a few of us with $1.5 mil and up homes after this most recent run up in the area east of the Sully Highlands fields, where most practices are held. My kids when they played for Valor both only had academy once a week in Centreville, everything else was at Sully. Once you go east of Lawyers Rd and Fox Mill Rd you'll encounter a lot of $2 mil and up homes.

DP. When I think about someone who owns a $2 million home paying for Valor for multiple years, the phrase "more money than sense" comes to mind.

All in after tournaments and all fees, what we paid for Valor is about $400 a year off what we pay for our new club. We also got winter indoor soccer or futsal included in the Valor price (boy played indoor, girl's team did futsal at the CYA fieldhouse). The price seems comparable.
Now that they are older it's about the team and coaching - but those first few years it really didn't matter what club you played for. We went with convenience and where our kids' CYA rec friends were going to play. They had fun and that made them enjoy the game of soccer.

Quality training at a young age is incredibly important. Developing early and cultivating good habits (skills) are essential for competitiveness. Children in this field take years to grow before achieving specific milestones. To claim it doesn't matter is somewhat shortsighted.

Yeah, really regretting keeping our kid at Valor as long as we did. I thought it didn’t matter, but I can see the gap now a few years in. The coaches know certain age groups and teams are terrible and they don’t care. They laugh about it. Stop giving them your money if you’re in one of those groups. They aren’t ever going to prioritize you.

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Anonymous wrote:Are they ever going to post their coach list? Its almost June!

I think they are just not going to post any more coaches, and pretend like its normal to only publicly list the first team coaches. That covers their butt until August if they are scrambling for coaches.

Yes I think this is the plan as well. I guess the coaches are so bad and inexperienced that "no coach listed" is preferable. Oof.