Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I love the idiots who say - we are so rich, we can fund this war and take care of our vets and seniors and kids.

They love saying that.

Well guess what- it never happens! They never do both. It’s a fairy tale.

That Ukrainian aid is spilling all over k street and some of the dumbest people you’ve ever met are getting super rich by skimming government contracts.

Meanwhile, hard times on main street.

It’s gonna be a hard rain.


"hard rain?"

The last quote is from a 60's Bob Dylan song popular in the former Soviet Union but it never really took off here in the US.


Yes you caught me. In fact, Hard Rain is ranked as Dylan’s second best song of all time by Pravda. Or was it our other music magazine in Peter, Rolling Stone.

You are delusional!

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/10-greatest-bob-dylan-songs-152077/tangled-up-in-blue-2-159444/


Yeah, American's don't say 'hard rain' or call people 'delusional' very often, but it was a nice try. It's a very Russian way of saying things though.
You see, when your brain has been soaked in Russian propaganda too long, it seeps into your conversation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I love the idiots who say - we are so rich, we can fund this war and take care of our vets and seniors and kids.

They love saying that.

Well guess what- it never happens! They never do both. It’s a fairy tale.

That Ukrainian aid is spilling all over k street and some of the dumbest people you’ve ever met are getting super rich by skimming government contracts.

Meanwhile, hard times on main street.

It’s gonna be a hard rain.


"hard rain?"

The last quote is from a 60's Bob Dylan song popular in the former Soviet Union but it never really took off here in the US.


Yes you caught me. In fact, Hard Rain is ranked as Dylan’s second best song of all time by Pravda. Or was it our other music magazine in Peter, Rolling Stone.

You are delusional!

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/10-greatest-bob-dylan-songs-152077/tangled-up-in-blue-2-159444/


Yeah, American's don't say 'hard rain' or call people 'delusional' very often, but it was a nice try. It's a very Russian way of saying things though.
You see, when your brain has been soaked in Russian propaganda too long, it seeps into your conversation.


Yes I learn my English from sleeper agent Dr Phil.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GNw1aXnojpw
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I love the idiots who say - we are so rich, we can fund this war and take care of our vets and seniors and kids.

They love saying that.

Well guess what- it never happens! They never do both. It’s a fairy tale.

That Ukrainian aid is spilling all over k street and some of the dumbest people you’ve ever met are getting super rich by skimming government contracts.

Meanwhile, hard times on main street.

It’s gonna be a hard rain.


"hard rain?"

The last quote is from a 60's Bob Dylan song popular in the former Soviet Union but it never really took off here in the US.


Yes you caught me. In fact, Hard Rain is ranked as Dylan’s second best song of all time by Pravda. Or was it our other music magazine in Peter, Rolling Stone.

You are delusional!

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/10-greatest-bob-dylan-songs-152077/tangled-up-in-blue-2-159444/


Yeah, American's don't say 'hard rain' or call people 'delusional' very often, but it was a nice try. It's a very Russian way of saying things though.
You see, when your brain has been soaked in Russian propaganda too long, it seeps into your conversation.


Do a search for delusional on DCUM and you’ll see how often Americans call people that. Not very often my ass.
Anonymous
Ooh, speaking of sleeper agents, I'm really glad you raised that point.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/07/discovered-our-parents-were-russian-spies-tim-alex-foley

The FBI really needs to start leveraging this information to arrest as many as possible in the short term. This will free up resources to pursue influence and subversion operations. My guess is with the Ruble being what it is now, the State Pension isn't going to cut it for the average deep-cover SVR agent looking to retire? Need to pull them in before their loyalties are questioned and they disappear on a walk in the woods.

Thanks for reminding me - you're really a big help!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I love the idiots who say - we are so rich, we can fund this war and take care of our vets and seniors and kids.

They love saying that.

Well guess what- it never happens! They never do both. It’s a fairy tale.

That Ukrainian aid is spilling all over k street and some of the dumbest people you’ve ever met are getting super rich by skimming government contracts.

Meanwhile, hard times on main street.

It’s gonna be a hard rain.


"hard rain?"

The last quote is from a 60's Bob Dylan song popular in the former Soviet Union but it never really took off here in the US.


Yes you caught me. In fact, Hard Rain is ranked as Dylan’s second best song of all time by Pravda. Or was it our other music magazine in Peter, Rolling Stone.

You are delusional!

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/10-greatest-bob-dylan-songs-152077/tangled-up-in-blue-2-159444/


Yeah, American's don't say 'hard rain' or call people 'delusional' very often, but it was a nice try. It's a very Russian way of saying things though.
You see, when your brain has been soaked in Russian propaganda too long, it seeps into your conversation.


Do a search for delusional on DCUM and you’ll see how often Americans call people that. Not very often my ass.


The Dow Jones dropped 300 points today in a hard rain.. lol
Anonymous
Pretty simple...if the GOP wins the White House in 2025, the US will pull out of NATO. People need to understand, elections matter.

https://twitter.com/TheAtlantic/status/1697984000046883109
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Pick on the Walmart set all you want; but also be honest that Americas elite has a pretty crappy record with military adventure.


Please remind me which military adventures the Walmart set has not vigorously supported? Pretty much Ukraine, and why? Because Trump is a self declared friend of Putin, who was led to believe, by Russians, that Ukraine somehow conspired to interfere with his election.

That is what it's about. They are not the hapless victims of Americas elite. They are currently the hapless victims of Donald J. Trump.


A lot of people lost their appetite for endless wars after the never ending Afghanistan/Iraq debacles. Has absolutely nothing to do with Russia Russia Russia.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Pick on the Walmart set all you want; but also be honest that Americas elite has a pretty crappy record with military adventure.


Please remind me which military adventures the Walmart set has not vigorously supported? Pretty much Ukraine, and why? Because Trump is a self declared friend of Putin, who was led to believe, by Russians, that Ukraine somehow conspired to interfere with his election.

That is what it's about. They are not the hapless victims of Americas elite. They are currently the hapless victims of Donald J. Trump.


A lot of people lost their appetite for endless wars after the never ending Afghanistan/Iraq debacles. Has absolutely nothing to do with Russia Russia Russia.


Agreed that the Cheney team did a lot of damage to US foreign policy. But if you turn your back now, you'll be the same as empowering Hitler in 1938.

"On 1st September over 320,000 children went to school at liberated territories and on Donbas, 29,500 of them are first graders. This is one of the main achievements of the SMO [special military operation]. We have torn over 1/3 million children out of the hands of the crazy rusophobic propaganda. This is wonderful."
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1698238267181662561

"When some million and a half 10th- and 11th-graders across Russia and the Russian-occupied territories of Ukraine started the school year on Friday, they received new textbooks for their history classes. Of these, the most notable is the new 11th-grade Russian history text, hastily written at the direction of a Kremlin aide to justify what the Russian government calls the “special military operation” in Ukraine."
"The new textbook, titled History of Russia: 1945 to the Early 21st Century"
"Amnesty International denounced the book as a “blatant attempt to unlawfully indoctrinate school children in Russia and Russian-occupied Ukrainian territories,” pointing out that teachers in the occupied parts of Ukraine “are at risk of violence, arbitrary detention and ill-treatment” if they refuse to teach the material."
"Over more than 400 pages, Ukraine is mentioned more often than any other former Soviet or Russian possession. Its supposedly central role in Russia’s own history is unambiguously promoted, while Ukrainian independence and alignment with Europe are “unthinkable” and “civilization-ending.”"
"The most infamous periods of Soviet history—genocides, mass deportations, political prisons, mass executions—are barely mentioned at all."
"When describing Russia’s supposedly “historical” ownership of Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula, for example, the book claims that ethnic Russians make up the “absolute majority” of Crimea’s population. But Russians only became the dominant ethnicity in Crimea through a policy of colonization and ethnic cleansing—especially after 1944, when Soviet leader Joseph Stalin ordered the deportation of the indigenous Crimean Tatar population, which he falsely accused of collectively collaborating with the Nazis."
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/09/03/russia-schoolbook-schools-ukraine-west-indoctrination-history-falsification-war-hatred-putin/?tpcc=recirc_latest062921
Anonymous
Political discussion rarely changes minds.

One significant benefit is understanding how people you disagree with see/understand an issue. I think this is of great value, and helps mitigate the tendency to vilify folks on the other side.

For this reason, this whole goofy “you’re a Russian” bit that keeps playing out on this thread is unfortunate.

Recent polls confirm that many Americans- actually some polls suggest most Americans- do not support the status quo of military support for Ukraine.

You may be the biggest supporter of Ukraine and this war- that’s fine- but metaphorically putting your fingers in your ears with the “Russian troll” line deprives you of the benefit of these kinds of fora. And yes, I wrote fora instead of forums, which I think is correct Latin (and not Russian!).

Happy Sunday.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Pretty simple...if the GOP wins the White House in 2025, the US will pull out of NATO. People need to understand, elections matter.

https://twitter.com/TheAtlantic/status/1697984000046883109


If Trump or Vivek somehow manage to be elected, which I doubt, you may be correct.

Then we'll have four years of this:

On his Truth Social site on Friday, the former president wrote, “IF YOU GO AFTER ME, I’M COMING AFTER YOU!”
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/05/trumps-threatening-post-flagged-by-us-prosecutors-to-judge.html

Just the stable genius we need in office.



"President Vladimir Putin quoted Soviet-era punk-rock lyrics about rape and necrophilia to demonstrate what Russia wants from Ukraine. "Whether you like it or don't like it, bear with it, my beauty," Putin said."
"Russia experts noted that Putin appeared to be quoting from "Sleeping Beauty in a Coffin" by the Soviet-era punk rock group Red Mold. "Sleeping beauty in a coffin, I crept up and f***ed her. Like it, or dislike it, sleep my beauty," the English translation of the Russian lyrics reads."
https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-macron-meeting-quote-obscene-lyrics-show-russia-ukraine-demands-2022-2
Anonymous
The pro-russian blog tempo in the past 24 hours after this was posted on possible Russian First Strike preparations.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/4410/1115631.page

09/02/2023 09:10
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Pick on the Walmart set all you want; but also be honest that Americas elite has a pretty crappy record with military adventure.


Please remind me which military adventures the Walmart set has not vigorously supported? Pretty much Ukraine, and why? Because Trump is a self declared friend of Putin, who was led to believe, by Russians, that Ukraine somehow conspired to interfere with his election.

That is what it's about. They are not the hapless victims of Americas elite. They are currently the hapless victims of Donald J. Trump.


A lot of people lost their appetite for endless wars after the never ending Afghanistan/Iraq debacles. Has absolutely nothing to do with Russia Russia Russia.


Agreed that the Cheney team did a lot of damage to US foreign policy. But if you turn your back now, you'll be the same as empowering Hitler in 1938.

"On 1st September over 320,000 children went to school at liberated territories and on Donbas, 29,500 of them are first graders. This is one of the main achievements of the SMO [special military operation]. We have torn over 1/3 million children out of the hands of the crazy rusophobic propaganda. This is wonderful."
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1698238267181662561

"When some million and a half 10th- and 11th-graders across Russia and the Russian-occupied territories of Ukraine started the school year on Friday, they received new textbooks for their history classes. Of these, the most notable is the new 11th-grade Russian history text, hastily written at the direction of a Kremlin aide to justify what the Russian government calls the “special military operation” in Ukraine."
"The new textbook, titled History of Russia: 1945 to the Early 21st Century"
"Amnesty International denounced the book as a “blatant attempt to unlawfully indoctrinate school children in Russia and Russian-occupied Ukrainian territories,” pointing out that teachers in the occupied parts of Ukraine “are at risk of violence, arbitrary detention and ill-treatment” if they refuse to teach the material."
"Over more than 400 pages, Ukraine is mentioned more often than any other former Soviet or Russian possession. Its supposedly central role in Russia’s own history is unambiguously promoted, while Ukrainian independence and alignment with Europe are “unthinkable” and “civilization-ending.”"
"The most infamous periods of Soviet history—genocides, mass deportations, political prisons, mass executions—are barely mentioned at all."
"When describing Russia’s supposedly “historical” ownership of Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula, for example, the book claims that ethnic Russians make up the “absolute majority” of Crimea’s population. But Russians only became the dominant ethnicity in Crimea through a policy of colonization and ethnic cleansing—especially after 1944, when Soviet leader Joseph Stalin ordered the deportation of the indigenous Crimean Tatar population, which he falsely accused of collectively collaborating with the Nazis."
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/09/03/russia-schoolbook-schools-ukraine-west-indoctrination-history-falsification-war-hatred-putin/?tpcc=recirc_latest062921


Every country glams up its own. American textbooks in the 60s probably praised slavery.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Pick on the Walmart set all you want; but also be honest that Americas elite has a pretty crappy record with military adventure.


Please remind me which military adventures the Walmart set has not vigorously supported? Pretty much Ukraine, and why? Because Trump is a self declared friend of Putin, who was led to believe, by Russians, that Ukraine somehow conspired to interfere with his election.

That is what it's about. They are not the hapless victims of Americas elite. They are currently the hapless victims of Donald J. Trump.


A lot of people lost their appetite for endless wars after the never ending Afghanistan/Iraq debacles. Has absolutely nothing to do with Russia Russia Russia.


Agreed that the Cheney team did a lot of damage to US foreign policy. But if you turn your back now, you'll be the same as empowering Hitler in 1938.

"On 1st September over 320,000 children went to school at liberated territories and on Donbas, 29,500 of them are first graders. This is one of the main achievements of the SMO [special military operation]. We have torn over 1/3 million children out of the hands of the crazy rusophobic propaganda. This is wonderful."
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1698238267181662561

"When some million and a half 10th- and 11th-graders across Russia and the Russian-occupied territories of Ukraine started the school year on Friday, they received new textbooks for their history classes. Of these, the most notable is the new 11th-grade Russian history text, hastily written at the direction of a Kremlin aide to justify what the Russian government calls the “special military operation” in Ukraine."
"The new textbook, titled History of Russia: 1945 to the Early 21st Century"
"Amnesty International denounced the book as a “blatant attempt to unlawfully indoctrinate school children in Russia and Russian-occupied Ukrainian territories,” pointing out that teachers in the occupied parts of Ukraine “are at risk of violence, arbitrary detention and ill-treatment” if they refuse to teach the material."
"Over more than 400 pages, Ukraine is mentioned more often than any other former Soviet or Russian possession. Its supposedly central role in Russia’s own history is unambiguously promoted, while Ukrainian independence and alignment with Europe are “unthinkable” and “civilization-ending.”"
"The most infamous periods of Soviet history—genocides, mass deportations, political prisons, mass executions—are barely mentioned at all."
"When describing Russia’s supposedly “historical” ownership of Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula, for example, the book claims that ethnic Russians make up the “absolute majority” of Crimea’s population. But Russians only became the dominant ethnicity in Crimea through a policy of colonization and ethnic cleansing—especially after 1944, when Soviet leader Joseph Stalin ordered the deportation of the indigenous Crimean Tatar population, which he falsely accused of collectively collaborating with the Nazis."
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/09/03/russia-schoolbook-schools-ukraine-west-indoctrination-history-falsification-war-hatred-putin/?tpcc=recirc_latest062921


You’re not really making a case for the Ukrainian ownership of Crimea here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Pick on the Walmart set all you want; but also be honest that Americas elite has a pretty crappy record with military adventure.


Please remind me which military adventures the Walmart set has not vigorously supported? Pretty much Ukraine, and why? Because Trump is a self declared friend of Putin, who was led to believe, by Russians, that Ukraine somehow conspired to interfere with his election.

That is what it's about. They are not the hapless victims of Americas elite. They are currently the hapless victims of Donald J. Trump.


A lot of people lost their appetite for endless wars after the never ending Afghanistan/Iraq debacles. Has absolutely nothing to do with Russia Russia Russia.


Agreed that the Cheney team did a lot of damage to US foreign policy. But if you turn your back now, you'll be the same as empowering Hitler in 1938.

"On 1st September over 320,000 children went to school at liberated territories and on Donbas, 29,500 of them are first graders. This is one of the main achievements of the SMO [special military operation]. We have torn over 1/3 million children out of the hands of the crazy rusophobic propaganda. This is wonderful."
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1698238267181662561

"When some million and a half 10th- and 11th-graders across Russia and the Russian-occupied territories of Ukraine started the school year on Friday, they received new textbooks for their history classes. Of these, the most notable is the new 11th-grade Russian history text, hastily written at the direction of a Kremlin aide to justify what the Russian government calls the “special military operation” in Ukraine."
"The new textbook, titled History of Russia: 1945 to the Early 21st Century"
"Amnesty International denounced the book as a “blatant attempt to unlawfully indoctrinate school children in Russia and Russian-occupied Ukrainian territories,” pointing out that teachers in the occupied parts of Ukraine “are at risk of violence, arbitrary detention and ill-treatment” if they refuse to teach the material."
"Over more than 400 pages, Ukraine is mentioned more often than any other former Soviet or Russian possession. Its supposedly central role in Russia’s own history is unambiguously promoted, while Ukrainian independence and alignment with Europe are “unthinkable” and “civilization-ending.”"
"The most infamous periods of Soviet history—genocides, mass deportations, political prisons, mass executions—are barely mentioned at all."
"When describing Russia’s supposedly “historical” ownership of Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula, for example, the book claims that ethnic Russians make up the “absolute majority” of Crimea’s population. But Russians only became the dominant ethnicity in Crimea through a policy of colonization and ethnic cleansing—especially after 1944, when Soviet leader Joseph Stalin ordered the deportation of the indigenous Crimean Tatar population, which he falsely accused of collectively collaborating with the Nazis."
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/09/03/russia-schoolbook-schools-ukraine-west-indoctrination-history-falsification-war-hatred-putin/?tpcc=recirc_latest062921


You’re not really making a case for the Ukrainian ownership of Crimea here.


It's making a case that Russia is brainwashing children with a version of propaganda as revisionist history.

Russians have a difficult time dealing with 'factual logic and truth' versus untruths that they are forced to accept without question. When faced with a reality they cannot accept, many become irrational, angry and violent.

The man, thought to be in his early 40s and speaking in Russian, approached a group of children in the town of Einbeck in Lower Saxony who were sitting together on a bridge speaking Ukrainian. He told them they should be speaking Russian instead and that it was in fact Ukraine that started the war. The man then pulled the hair of a girl and threw a boy over the bridge’s five-metre high railing and into the canal, according to investigators. The boy hit the bridge’s iron girders before dropping into the water. The man then picked up a glass bottle and threw it at the boy while he was still in the water, hitting him on the right shoulder. The attacker fled as the other children helped the injured boy out of the water and told their parents."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-throws-10-old-off-144938016.html

Typically, they will seek to determine the level of authority making the statement and contrary statements are labeled as "delusions" (e.g. things that must be accepted without questioning or reasoning). This is a core tenant of Russian propaganda, so you'll see it play out here in DCUMS from time to time. There was a lull on this thread for a while, but it appears a new pair of Russian trolls may have been assigned to influence the thread. When confronted with facts that cannot be refuted or countered, many will instinctively react by undermining the person versus the fact.

The Russian Government takes this to the extreme by indoctrinating / brainwashing children, monitoring their reactions and culling out those that do not adapt to the training. As adults they can also be labeled so that they can be quickly discredited or locked away.

"The patients with paranoid symptoms retained some insight into their condition but overestimated their own significance and could manifest grandiose ideas of reforming society. Thereby, sluggish schizophrenia could have such symptoms as "reform delusions", "perseverance", and "struggle for the truth"."
"On the covert orders of the KGB, thousands of social and political reformers—Soviet "dissidents"—were incarcerated in mental hospitals after being labelled with diagnoses of "sluggish schizophrenia", a disease fabricated by Snezhnevsky and "Moscow school" of psychiatry."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Union#:~:text=On%20the%20covert%20orders%20of,%22Moscow%20school%22%20of%20psychiatry.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Pick on the Walmart set all you want; but also be honest that Americas elite has a pretty crappy record with military adventure.


Please remind me which military adventures the Walmart set has not vigorously supported? Pretty much Ukraine, and why? Because Trump is a self declared friend of Putin, who was led to believe, by Russians, that Ukraine somehow conspired to interfere with his election.

That is what it's about. They are not the hapless victims of Americas elite. They are currently the hapless victims of Donald J. Trump.


A lot of people lost their appetite for endless wars after the never ending Afghanistan/Iraq debacles. Has absolutely nothing to do with Russia Russia Russia.


Agreed that the Cheney team did a lot of damage to US foreign policy. But if you turn your back now, you'll be the same as empowering Hitler in 1938.

"On 1st September over 320,000 children went to school at liberated territories and on Donbas, 29,500 of them are first graders. This is one of the main achievements of the SMO [special military operation]. We have torn over 1/3 million children out of the hands of the crazy rusophobic propaganda. This is wonderful."
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1698238267181662561

"When some million and a half 10th- and 11th-graders across Russia and the Russian-occupied territories of Ukraine started the school year on Friday, they received new textbooks for their history classes. Of these, the most notable is the new 11th-grade Russian history text, hastily written at the direction of a Kremlin aide to justify what the Russian government calls the “special military operation” in Ukraine."
"The new textbook, titled History of Russia: 1945 to the Early 21st Century"
"Amnesty International denounced the book as a “blatant attempt to unlawfully indoctrinate school children in Russia and Russian-occupied Ukrainian territories,” pointing out that teachers in the occupied parts of Ukraine “are at risk of violence, arbitrary detention and ill-treatment” if they refuse to teach the material."
"Over more than 400 pages, Ukraine is mentioned more often than any other former Soviet or Russian possession. Its supposedly central role in Russia’s own history is unambiguously promoted, while Ukrainian independence and alignment with Europe are “unthinkable” and “civilization-ending.”"
"The most infamous periods of Soviet history—genocides, mass deportations, political prisons, mass executions—are barely mentioned at all."
"When describing Russia’s supposedly “historical” ownership of Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula, for example, the book claims that ethnic Russians make up the “absolute majority” of Crimea’s population. But Russians only became the dominant ethnicity in Crimea through a policy of colonization and ethnic cleansing—especially after 1944, when Soviet leader Joseph Stalin ordered the deportation of the indigenous Crimean Tatar population, which he falsely accused of collectively collaborating with the Nazis."
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/09/03/russia-schoolbook-schools-ukraine-west-indoctrination-history-falsification-war-hatred-putin/?tpcc=recirc_latest062921


You’re not really making a case for the Ukrainian ownership of Crimea here.


It's making a case that Russia is brainwashing children with a version of propaganda as revisionist history.

Russians have a difficult time dealing with 'factual logic and truth' versus untruths that they are forced to accept without question. When faced with a reality they cannot accept, many become irrational, angry and violent.

The man, thought to be in his early 40s and speaking in Russian, approached a group of children in the town of Einbeck in Lower Saxony who were sitting together on a bridge speaking Ukrainian. He told them they should be speaking Russian instead and that it was in fact Ukraine that started the war. The man then pulled the hair of a girl and threw a boy over the bridge’s five-metre high railing and into the canal, according to investigators. The boy hit the bridge’s iron girders before dropping into the water. The man then picked up a glass bottle and threw it at the boy while he was still in the water, hitting him on the right shoulder. The attacker fled as the other children helped the injured boy out of the water and told their parents."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-throws-10-old-off-144938016.html

Typically, they will seek to determine the level of authority making the statement and contrary statements are labeled as "delusions" (e.g. things that must be accepted without questioning or reasoning). This is a core tenant of Russian propaganda, so you'll see it play out here in DCUMS from time to time. There was a lull on this thread for a while, but it appears a new pair of Russian trolls may have been assigned to influence the thread. When confronted with facts that cannot be refuted or countered, many will instinctively react by undermining the person versus the fact.

The Russian Government takes this to the extreme by indoctrinating / brainwashing children, monitoring their reactions and culling out those that do not adapt to the training. As adults they can also be labeled so that they can be quickly discredited or locked away.

"The patients with paranoid symptoms retained some insight into their condition but overestimated their own significance and could manifest grandiose ideas of reforming society. Thereby, sluggish schizophrenia could have such symptoms as "reform delusions", "perseverance", and "struggle for the truth"."
"On the covert orders of the KGB, thousands of social and political reformers—Soviet "dissidents"—were incarcerated in mental hospitals after being labelled with diagnoses of "sluggish schizophrenia", a disease fabricated by Snezhnevsky and "Moscow school" of psychiatry."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Union#:~:text=On%20the%20covert%20orders%20of,%22Moscow%20school%22%20of%20psychiatry.


Everyone brainwashed. Everyone revised. Do you think the US teaches the Pearl Harbor module the same as Japan?
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