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Anonymous wrote:Many states have education bureaucracy looking to eliminate advanced math in the name of equity.
All kids would be in the same class learning grade level subjects. No honors classes, and no accelerating forward by a year or more. Virginia was set to do this statewide, but they backed down for the moment with an election coming.
Looks like Maryland is doing it more behind the scenes.

Can you show any evidence to support these claims? Without evidence, this seems like fearmongering.

Look up VMPI for Virginia. AAP Forum here has been running a thread for 3 months on Virginia to eliminate advanced math.

You can find some detail on California by searching for 'Bill Evers WSJ math'. There is an LA Times article and some WSJ editorials within the past few weeks.

VMPI says there is a 22 state consortium pursuing this. Their website has links to papers arguing the need to eliminate tracking.

When someone sent them an e-mail asking them to confirm they would eliminate tracking, the response was

The Virginia Mathematics Pathways Initiative proposals support the vision that all students are capable of making sense of and persevering in solving challenging mathematics problems and should be expected to do so. Many more students, regardless of gender, ethnicity, and socioeconomic status, need to be given the support, confidence, and opportunities to reach much higher levels of mathematical success and interest. VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated.

Sincerely,
Tina Mazzacane
K-12 Mathematics Coordinator
Virginia Department of Education

You are posting in the wrong group. This is about MCPS and they have stated they are keeping accelerated math. Our principal in MS said they are keeping the different levels. We are not VA or CA so posting what they are doing isn't helpful. Everyone is speculating. They aren't going to get rid of compacted math.

Today. Or Right now. Or because they got cAught trying.

And I understand the problem of low expectations that groups like the one in Virginia are trying to solve. But you make those kids the high flyers too. You give them extra instruction, support and encouragement. You act in loco parent is. It is not a solution to hold the high performers down so that they create behavior problems for the teachers who are trying to do that. And you buy yourself different inequity as people hire math tutors, or sign up for Russian School of Math or Dr Ali. Thanks again Ugh - MCPS - make decisions for our community. Don’t blindly follow the educational community flavor of the month.

What are you rambling about? There hasn't been any changes made to math. And, many of us just supplement with a few workbooks in ES. You don't need to pay for tutors or any of that stuff. You talking about VA for MCPS makes zero sense.

Given that MCPS and FCPS are often compared with one another given the geographic proximity and similarish demographics, it make a lot of sense to look at what FCPS (and VA in general) is doing. Similarly, it also makes sense to keep an eye on the Pacific Northwest when it comes to county politics because MoCo hate to be out-woked be anyone. So if it's happening there, it'll be coming her very soon.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many states have education bureaucracy looking to eliminate advanced math in the name of equity.
All kids would be in the same class learning grade level subjects. No honors classes, and no accelerating forward by a year or more. Virginia was set to do this statewide, but they backed down for the moment with an election coming.
Looks like Maryland is doing it more behind the scenes.

Can you show any evidence to support these claims? Without evidence, this seems like fearmongering.

Look up VMPI for Virginia. AAP Forum here has been running a thread for 3 months on Virginia to eliminate advanced math.

You can find some detail on California by searching for 'Bill Evers WSJ math'. There is an LA Times article and some WSJ editorials within the past few weeks.

VMPI says there is a 22 state consortium pursuing this. Their website has links to papers arguing the need to eliminate tracking.

When someone sent them an e-mail asking them to confirm they would eliminate tracking, the response was

The Virginia Mathematics Pathways Initiative proposals support the vision that all students are capable of making sense of and persevering in solving challenging mathematics problems and should be expected to do so. Many more students, regardless of gender, ethnicity, and socioeconomic status, need to be given the support, confidence, and opportunities to reach much higher levels of mathematical success and interest. VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated.

Sincerely,
Tina Mazzacane
K-12 Mathematics Coordinator
Virginia Department of Education

You are posting in the wrong group. This is about MCPS and they have stated they are keeping accelerated math. Our principal in MS said they are keeping the different levels. We are not VA or CA so posting what they are doing isn't helpful. Everyone is speculating. They aren't going to get rid of compacted math.

Today. Or Right now. Or because they got cAught trying.

And I understand the problem of low expectations that groups like the one in Virginia are trying to solve. But you make those kids the high flyers too. You give them extra instruction, support and encouragement. You act in loco parent is. It is not a solution to hold the high performers down so that they create behavior problems for the teachers who are trying to do that. And you buy yourself different inequity as people hire math tutors, or sign up for Russian School of Math or Dr Ali. Thanks again Ugh - MCPS - make decisions for our community. Don’t blindly follow the educational community flavor of the month.

What are you rambling about? There hasn't been any changes made to math. And, many of us just supplement with a few workbooks in ES. You don't need to pay for tutors or any of that stuff. You talking about VA for MCPS makes zero sense.

Given that MCPS and FCPS are often compared with one another given the geographic proximity and similarish demographics, it make a lot of sense to look at what FCPS (and VA in general) is doing. Similarly, it also makes sense to keep an eye on the Pacific Northwest when it comes to county politics because MoCo hate to be out-woked be anyone. So if it's happening there, it'll be coming her very soon.

No, one has nothing to do with the other in this situation. MCPS at our middle school has said nothing changes, including compacted math so you are just stirring up trouble to get attention.

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Anonymous wrote:Given that MCPS and FCPS are often compared with one another given the geographic proximity and similarish demographics, it make a lot of sense to look at what FCPS (and VA in general) is doing. Similarly, it also makes sense to keep an eye on the Pacific Northwest when it comes to county politics because MoCo hate to be out-woked be anyone. So if it's happening there, it'll be coming her very soon.

Yeah, yeah.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Many states have education bureaucracy looking to eliminate advanced math in the name of equity.
All kids would be in the same class learning grade level subjects. No honors classes, and no accelerating forward by a year or more. Virginia was set to do this statewide, but they backed down for the moment with an election coming.
Looks like Maryland is doing it more behind the scenes.

Can you show any evidence to support these claims? Without evidence, this seems like fearmongering.

Look up VMPI for Virginia. AAP Forum here has been running a thread for 3 months on Virginia to eliminate advanced math.

You can find some detail on California by searching for 'Bill Evers WSJ math'. There is an LA Times article and some WSJ editorials within the past few weeks.

VMPI says there is a 22 state consortium pursuing this. Their website has links to papers arguing the need to eliminate tracking.

When someone sent them an e-mail asking them to confirm they would eliminate tracking, the response was

The Virginia Mathematics Pathways Initiative proposals support the vision that all students are capable of making sense of and persevering in solving challenging mathematics problems and should be expected to do so. Many more students, regardless of gender, ethnicity, and socioeconomic status, need to be given the support, confidence, and opportunities to reach much higher levels of mathematical success and interest. VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated.

Sincerely,
Tina Mazzacane
K-12 Mathematics Coordinator
Virginia Department of Education

You are posting in the wrong group. This is about MCPS and they have stated they are keeping accelerated math. Our principal in MS said they are keeping the different levels. We are not VA or CA so posting what they are doing isn't helpful. Everyone is speculating. They aren't going to get rid of compacted math.

Today. Or Right now. Or because they got cAught trying.

And I understand the problem of low expectations that groups like the one in Virginia are trying to solve. But you make those kids the high flyers too. You give them extra instruction, support and encouragement. You act in loco parent is. It is not a solution to hold the high performers down so that they create behavior problems for the teachers who are trying to do that. And you buy yourself different inequity as people hire math tutors, or sign up for Russian School of Math or Dr Ali. Thanks again Ugh - MCPS - make decisions for our community. Don’t blindly follow the educational community flavor of the month.

What are you rambling about? There hasn't been any changes made to math. And, many of us just supplement with a few workbooks in ES. You don't need to pay for tutors or any of that stuff. You talking about VA for MCPS makes zero sense.

Given that MCPS and FCPS are often compared with one another given the geographic proximity and similarish demographics, it make a lot of sense to look at what FCPS (and VA in general) is doing. Similarly, it also makes sense to keep an eye on the Pacific Northwest when it comes to county politics because MoCo hate to be out-woked be anyone. So if it's happening there, it'll be coming her very soon.

I love how progressive MCPS is! We moved here specifically because of their innovative and forward looking policies.

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS is headed by a woman now, but there's a paternalistic vibe that parents cannot possibly understand the complexity of their job leading a school district. To some extent that's true - managing such a large school district with such diverse needs is a big complicated job. For the most part, though, we can manage our own kids, and MCPS should not fall back on their paternalistic attitude for all, but rather should save the paternalism for the parents who need extra help.

Nah. They just get exhausted dealing with parents trying to micromanage the day to day operation of a large enterprise.

And yet, they continually just seemingly make things up as they go along without public communication until after the fact and then just barely.

How exactly are students determined eligible for the CES lottery and how is it run? Why is it that no one outside of MCPS knows the answer to this exactly precisely and why hasn't MCPS felt the need to communicate this with parents?

How do they plan to teach math next year if they did not cover a full year of curriculum this year? Why won't MCPS communicate this to parents?

It's really exhausting being an MCPS parent when they lack transparency about basic things.

I think this is well-articulated. Add to it different offerings at different schools (this is a problem for ES, MS, & HS), and it is confusing and frustrating to parents. All of our ES's schools are big enough to offer ELC for example. Why do MS's have different curriculum offerings? Why is access to foreign languages, computer classes, and highest level math different across our county HS's. It doesn't make sense. The lackluster curriculum is tough at the ES and MS levels for a kid who wants to do advanced work but is not "gifted". I think we should get rid of all "test-in" gifted programs at this point and focus on offering enrichment at the individual school level for kids who qualify.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many states have education bureaucracy looking to eliminate advanced math in the name of equity.
All kids would be in the same class learning grade level subjects. No honors classes, and no accelerating forward by a year or more. Virginia was set to do this statewide, but they backed down for the moment with an election coming.
Looks like Maryland is doing it more behind the scenes.

Can you show any evidence to support these claims? Without evidence, this seems like fearmongering.

Look up VMPI for Virginia. AAP Forum here has been running a thread for 3 months on Virginia to eliminate advanced math.

You can find some detail on California by searching for 'Bill Evers WSJ math'. There is an LA Times article and some WSJ editorials within the past few weeks.

VMPI says there is a 22 state consortium pursuing this. Their website has links to papers arguing the need to eliminate tracking.

When someone sent them an e-mail asking them to confirm they would eliminate tracking, the response was

The Virginia Mathematics Pathways Initiative proposals support the vision that all students are capable of making sense of and persevering in solving challenging mathematics problems and should be expected to do so. Many more students, regardless of gender, ethnicity, and socioeconomic status, need to be given the support, confidence, and opportunities to reach much higher levels of mathematical success and interest. VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated.

Sincerely,
Tina Mazzacane
K-12 Mathematics Coordinator
Virginia Department of Education

You are posting in the wrong group. This is about MCPS and they have stated they are keeping accelerated math. Our principal in MS said they are keeping the different levels. We are not VA or CA so posting what they are doing isn't helpful. Everyone is speculating. They aren't going to get rid of compacted math.

Today. Or Right now. Or because they got cAught trying.

And I understand the problem of low expectations that groups like the one in Virginia are trying to solve. But you make those kids the high flyers too. You give them extra instruction, support and encouragement. You act in loco parent is. It is not a solution to hold the high performers down so that they create behavior problems for the teachers who are trying to do that. And you buy yourself different inequity as people hire math tutors, or sign up for Russian School of Math or Dr Ali. Thanks again Ugh - MCPS - make decisions for our community. Don’t blindly follow the educational community flavor of the month.

What are you rambling about? There hasn't been any changes made to math. And, many of us just supplement with a few workbooks in ES. You don't need to pay for tutors or any of that stuff. You talking about VA for MCPS makes zero sense.

Given that MCPS and FCPS are often compared with one another given the geographic proximity and similarish demographics, it make a lot of sense to look at what FCPS (and VA in general) is doing. Similarly, it also makes sense to keep an eye on the Pacific Northwest when it comes to county politics because MoCo hate to be out-woked be anyone. So if it's happening there, it'll be coming her very soon.

No, one has nothing to do with the other in this situation. MCPS at our middle school has said nothing changes, including compacted math so you are just stirring up trouble to get attention.

Of course they do. There is a national movement in education to dumb down the curriculum so that poor minorities can catch up. Just look at the priorities of the NEA. There's some really crazy stuff in there. MCPS did debate doing away with advanced math altogether. It look like hat won't technically happen but the "compromise" is almost as bad. It looks like only a handful of kids will take advanced math next year. This isn't surprising given that MCPS held back 30-55% of the math curriculum this year. They will continue to use this as an excuse for holding back for years to come.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many states have education bureaucracy looking to eliminate advanced math in the name of equity.
All kids would be in the same class learning grade level subjects. No honors classes, and no accelerating forward by a year or more. Virginia was set to do this statewide, but they backed down for the moment with an election coming.
Looks like Maryland is doing it more behind the scenes.

Can you show any evidence to support these claims? Without evidence, this seems like fearmongering.

Look up VMPI for Virginia. AAP Forum here has been running a thread for 3 months on Virginia to eliminate advanced math.

You can find some detail on California by searching for 'Bill Evers WSJ math'. There is an LA Times article and some WSJ editorials within the past few weeks.

VMPI says there is a 22 state consortium pursuing this. Their website has links to papers arguing the need to eliminate tracking.

When someone sent them an e-mail asking them to confirm they would eliminate tracking, the response was

The Virginia Mathematics Pathways Initiative proposals support the vision that all students are capable of making sense of and persevering in solving challenging mathematics problems and should be expected to do so. Many more students, regardless of gender, ethnicity, and socioeconomic status, need to be given the support, confidence, and opportunities to reach much higher levels of mathematical success and interest. VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated.

Sincerely,
Tina Mazzacane
K-12 Mathematics Coordinator
Virginia Department of Education

You are posting in the wrong group. This is about MCPS and they have stated they are keeping accelerated math. Our principal in MS said they are keeping the different levels. We are not VA or CA so posting what they are doing isn't helpful. Everyone is speculating. They aren't going to get rid of compacted math.

Today. Or Right now. Or because they got cAught trying.

And I understand the problem of low expectations that groups like the one in Virginia are trying to solve. But you make those kids the high flyers too. You give them extra instruction, support and encouragement. You act in loco parent is. It is not a solution to hold the high performers down so that they create behavior problems for the teachers who are trying to do that. And you buy yourself different inequity as people hire math tutors, or sign up for Russian School of Math or Dr Ali. Thanks again Ugh - MCPS - make decisions for our community. Don’t blindly follow the educational community flavor of the month.

What are you rambling about? There hasn't been any changes made to math. And, many of us just supplement with a few workbooks in ES. You don't need to pay for tutors or any of that stuff. You talking about VA for MCPS makes zero sense.

Given that MCPS and FCPS are often compared with one another given the geographic proximity and similarish demographics, it make a lot of sense to look at what FCPS (and VA in general) is doing. Similarly, it also makes sense to keep an eye on the Pacific Northwest when it comes to county politics because MoCo hate to be out-woked be anyone. So if it's happening there, it'll be coming her very soon.

No, one has nothing to do with the other in this situation. MCPS at our middle school has said nothing changes, including compacted math so you are just stirring up trouble to get attention.

A whole bunch of posters have said things have changed, with compacted math. Are they wrong?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many states have education bureaucracy looking to eliminate advanced math in the name of equity.
All kids would be in the same class learning grade level subjects. No honors classes, and no accelerating forward by a year or more. Virginia was set to do this statewide, but they backed down for the moment with an election coming.
Looks like Maryland is doing it more behind the scenes.

Can you show any evidence to support these claims? Without evidence, this seems like fearmongering.

Look up VMPI for Virginia. AAP Forum here has been running a thread for 3 months on Virginia to eliminate advanced math.

You can find some detail on California by searching for 'Bill Evers WSJ math'. There is an LA Times article and some WSJ editorials within the past few weeks.

VMPI says there is a 22 state consortium pursuing this. Their website has links to papers arguing the need to eliminate tracking.

When someone sent them an e-mail asking them to confirm they would eliminate tracking, the response was

The Virginia Mathematics Pathways Initiative proposals support the vision that all students are capable of making sense of and persevering in solving challenging mathematics problems and should be expected to do so. Many more students, regardless of gender, ethnicity, and socioeconomic status, need to be given the support, confidence, and opportunities to reach much higher levels of mathematical success and interest. VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated.

Sincerely,
Tina Mazzacane
K-12 Mathematics Coordinator
Virginia Department of Education

You are posting in the wrong group. This is about MCPS and they have stated they are keeping accelerated math. Our principal in MS said they are keeping the different levels. We are not VA or CA so posting what they are doing isn't helpful. Everyone is speculating. They aren't going to get rid of compacted math.

Today. Or Right now. Or because they got cAught trying.

And I understand the problem of low expectations that groups like the one in Virginia are trying to solve. But you make those kids the high flyers too. You give them extra instruction, support and encouragement. You act in loco parent is. It is not a solution to hold the high performers down so that they create behavior problems for the teachers who are trying to do that. And you buy yourself different inequity as people hire math tutors, or sign up for Russian School of Math or Dr Ali. Thanks again Ugh - MCPS - make decisions for our community. Don’t blindly follow the educational community flavor of the month.

What are you rambling about? There hasn't been any changes made to math. And, many of us just supplement with a few workbooks in ES. You don't need to pay for tutors or any of that stuff. You talking about VA for MCPS makes zero sense.

Given that MCPS and FCPS are often compared with one another given the geographic proximity and similarish demographics, it make a lot of sense to look at what FCPS (and VA in general) is doing. Similarly, it also makes sense to keep an eye on the Pacific Northwest when it comes to county politics because MoCo hate to be out-woked be anyone. So if it's happening there, it'll be coming her very soon.

No, one has nothing to do with the other in this situation. MCPS at our middle school has said nothing changes, including compacted math so you are just stirring up trouble to get attention.

A whole bunch of posters have said things have changed, with compacted math. Are they wrong?

The curriculum has changed which would have happened regardless of covid as they are going to Eureka Math. Take to your school instead of speculating. Ours will offer the same classes next year. They just have different names to align with the new curriculum.

Rambling on about FCPS or other places is silly as it has nothing to do with MCPS.

If you don't like it, feel free to go private or supplement. Many of us supplement. You can get free online resources or even dollar tree has workbooks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many states have education bureaucracy looking to eliminate advanced math in the name of equity.
All kids would be in the same class learning grade level subjects. No honors classes, and no accelerating forward by a year or more. Virginia was set to do this statewide, but they backed down for the moment with an election coming.
Looks like Maryland is doing it more behind the scenes.

Can you show any evidence to support these claims? Without evidence, this seems like fearmongering.

Look up VMPI for Virginia. AAP Forum here has been running a thread for 3 months on Virginia to eliminate advanced math.

You can find some detail on California by searching for 'Bill Evers WSJ math'. There is an LA Times article and some WSJ editorials within the past few weeks.

VMPI says there is a 22 state consortium pursuing this. Their website has links to papers arguing the need to eliminate tracking.

When someone sent them an e-mail asking them to confirm they would eliminate tracking, the response was

The Virginia Mathematics Pathways Initiative proposals support the vision that all students are capable of making sense of and persevering in solving challenging mathematics problems and should be expected to do so. Many more students, regardless of gender, ethnicity, and socioeconomic status, need to be given the support, confidence, and opportunities to reach much higher levels of mathematical success and interest. VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated.

Sincerely,
Tina Mazzacane
K-12 Mathematics Coordinator
Virginia Department of Education

You are posting in the wrong group. This is about MCPS and they have stated they are keeping accelerated math. Our principal in MS said they are keeping the different levels. We are not VA or CA so posting what they are doing isn't helpful. Everyone is speculating. They aren't going to get rid of compacted math.

Today. Or Right now. Or because they got cAught trying.

And I understand the problem of low expectations that groups like the one in Virginia are trying to solve. But you make those kids the high flyers too. You give them extra instruction, support and encouragement. You act in loco parent is. It is not a solution to hold the high performers down so that they create behavior problems for the teachers who are trying to do that. And you buy yourself different inequity as people hire math tutors, or sign up for Russian School of Math or Dr Ali. Thanks again Ugh - MCPS - make decisions for our community. Don’t blindly follow the educational community flavor of the month.

What are you rambling about? There hasn't been any changes made to math. And, many of us just supplement with a few workbooks in ES. You don't need to pay for tutors or any of that stuff. You talking about VA for MCPS makes zero sense.

Given that MCPS and FCPS are often compared with one another given the geographic proximity and similarish demographics, it make a lot of sense to look at what FCPS (and VA in general) is doing. Similarly, it also makes sense to keep an eye on the Pacific Northwest when it comes to county politics because MoCo hate to be out-woked be anyone. So if it's happening there, it'll be coming her very soon.

No, one has nothing to do with the other in this situation. MCPS at our middle school has said nothing changes, including compacted math so you are just stirring up trouble to get attention.

A whole bunch of posters have said things have changed, with compacted math. Are they wrong?

Our principal confirmed things are changing with compacted math. There will be revised criteria for going from 4/5 to 5/6. They are still waiting for the final guidance as it changed once already and may again. They confirmed it was MAP scores, grades, and test scores on math assessments. It is guidance, but they said it is important that kids don’t just automatically get pushed to the next level if compacted math.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many states have education bureaucracy looking to eliminate advanced math in the name of equity.
All kids would be in the same class learning grade level subjects. No honors classes, and no accelerating forward by a year or more. Virginia was set to do this statewide, but they backed down for the moment with an election coming.
Looks like Maryland is doing it more behind the scenes.

Can you show any evidence to support these claims? Without evidence, this seems like fearmongering.

Look up VMPI for Virginia. AAP Forum here has been running a thread for 3 months on Virginia to eliminate advanced math.

You can find some detail on California by searching for 'Bill Evers WSJ math'. There is an LA Times article and some WSJ editorials within the past few weeks.

VMPI says there is a 22 state consortium pursuing this. Their website has links to papers arguing the need to eliminate tracking.

When someone sent them an e-mail asking them to confirm they would eliminate tracking, the response was

The Virginia Mathematics Pathways Initiative proposals support the vision that all students are capable of making sense of and persevering in solving challenging mathematics problems and should be expected to do so. Many more students, regardless of gender, ethnicity, and socioeconomic status, need to be given the support, confidence, and opportunities to reach much higher levels of mathematical success and interest. VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated.

Sincerely,
Tina Mazzacane
K-12 Mathematics Coordinator
Virginia Department of Education

You are posting in the wrong group. This is about MCPS and they have stated they are keeping accelerated math. Our principal in MS said they are keeping the different levels. We are not VA or CA so posting what they are doing isn't helpful. Everyone is speculating. They aren't going to get rid of compacted math.

Today. Or Right now. Or because they got cAught trying.

And I understand the problem of low expectations that groups like the one in Virginia are trying to solve. But you make those kids the high flyers too. You give them extra instruction, support and encouragement. You act in loco parent is. It is not a solution to hold the high performers down so that they create behavior problems for the teachers who are trying to do that. And you buy yourself different inequity as people hire math tutors, or sign up for Russian School of Math or Dr Ali. Thanks again Ugh - MCPS - make decisions for our community. Don’t blindly follow the educational community flavor of the month.

What are you rambling about? There hasn't been any changes made to math. And, many of us just supplement with a few workbooks in ES. You don't need to pay for tutors or any of that stuff. You talking about VA for MCPS makes zero sense.

Given that MCPS and FCPS are often compared with one another given the geographic proximity and similarish demographics, it make a lot of sense to look at what FCPS (and VA in general) is doing. Similarly, it also makes sense to keep an eye on the Pacific Northwest when it comes to county politics because MoCo hate to be out-woked be anyone. So if it's happening there, it'll be coming her very soon.

No, one has nothing to do with the other in this situation. MCPS at our middle school has said nothing changes, including compacted math so you are just stirring up trouble to get attention.

A whole bunch of posters have said things have changed, with compacted math. Are they wrong?

Our principal confirmed things are changing with compacted math. There will be revised criteria for going from 4/5 to 5/6. They are still waiting for the final guidance as it changed once already and may again. They confirmed it was MAP scores, grades, and test scores on math assessments. It is guidance, but they said it is important that kids don’t just automatically get pushed to the next level if compacted math.

This has always been the case, maybe not at your school but at many. You don't automatically go to the next level in less you can handle it and do well. Saying a combination of map scores, grades and tests is normal for compacted math. Its also normal for a kid or few kids to drop to a lower level. In MS, we were told if our child could not handle the higher level math we could drop back down, no issue. It sounds like the only difference is it will be less subjective from principals and teachers and more objective in looking at scores. Thats not a bad thing.

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Anonymous wrote:Many states have education bureaucracy looking to eliminate advanced math in the name of equity.
All kids would be in the same class learning grade level subjects. No honors classes, and no accelerating forward by a year or more. Virginia was set to do this statewide, but they backed down for the moment with an election coming.
Looks like Maryland is doing it more behind the scenes.

Can you show any evidence to support these claims? Without evidence, this seems like fearmongering.

Look up VMPI for Virginia. AAP Forum here has been running a thread for 3 months on Virginia to eliminate advanced math.

You can find some detail on California by searching for 'Bill Evers WSJ math'. There is an LA Times article and some WSJ editorials within the past few weeks.

VMPI says there is a 22 state consortium pursuing this. Their website has links to papers arguing the need to eliminate tracking.

When someone sent them an e-mail asking them to confirm they would eliminate tracking, the response was

The Virginia Mathematics Pathways Initiative proposals support the vision that all students are capable of making sense of and persevering in solving challenging mathematics problems and should be expected to do so. Many more students, regardless of gender, ethnicity, and socioeconomic status, need to be given the support, confidence, and opportunities to reach much higher levels of mathematical success and interest. VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated.

Sincerely,
Tina Mazzacane
K-12 Mathematics Coordinator
Virginia Department of Education

You are posting in the wrong group. This is about MCPS and they have stated they are keeping accelerated math. Our principal in MS said they are keeping the different levels. We are not VA or CA so posting what they are doing isn't helpful. Everyone is speculating. They aren't going to get rid of compacted math.

Today. Or Right now. Or because they got cAught trying.

And I understand the problem of low expectations that groups like the one in Virginia are trying to solve. But you make those kids the high flyers too. You give them extra instruction, support and encouragement. You act in loco parent is. It is not a solution to hold the high performers down so that they create behavior problems for the teachers who are trying to do that. And you buy yourself different inequity as people hire math tutors, or sign up for Russian School of Math or Dr Ali. Thanks again Ugh - MCPS - make decisions for our community. Don’t blindly follow the educational community flavor of the month.

What are you rambling about? There hasn't been any changes made to math. And, many of us just supplement with a few workbooks in ES. You don't need to pay for tutors or any of that stuff. You talking about VA for MCPS makes zero sense.

Given that MCPS and FCPS are often compared with one another given the geographic proximity and similarish demographics, it make a lot of sense to look at what FCPS (and VA in general) is doing. Similarly, it also makes sense to keep an eye on the Pacific Northwest when it comes to county politics because MoCo hate to be out-woked be anyone. So if it's happening there, it'll be coming her very soon.

No, one has nothing to do with the other in this situation. MCPS at our middle school has said nothing changes, including compacted math so you are just stirring up trouble to get attention.

A whole bunch of posters have said things have changed, with compacted math. Are they wrong?

The curriculum has changed which would have happened regardless of covid as they are going to Eureka Math. Take to your school instead of speculating. Ours will offer the same classes next year. They just have different names to align with the new curriculum.

Rambling on about FCPS or other places is silly as it has nothing to do with MCPS.

In FCPS, we were told that 22 states are doing the same changes as Virginia. I think you are being naive in thinking they are unrelated.

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Anonymous wrote:Many states have education bureaucracy looking to eliminate advanced math in the name of equity.
All kids would be in the same class learning grade level subjects. No honors classes, and no accelerating forward by a year or more. Virginia was set to do this statewide, but they backed down for the moment with an election coming.
Looks like Maryland is doing it more behind the scenes.

Can you show any evidence to support these claims? Without evidence, this seems like fearmongering.

Look up VMPI for Virginia. AAP Forum here has been running a thread for 3 months on Virginia to eliminate advanced math.

You can find some detail on California by searching for 'Bill Evers WSJ math'. There is an LA Times article and some WSJ editorials within the past few weeks.

VMPI says there is a 22 state consortium pursuing this. Their website has links to papers arguing the need to eliminate tracking.

When someone sent them an e-mail asking them to confirm they would eliminate tracking, the response was

The Virginia Mathematics Pathways Initiative proposals support the vision that all students are capable of making sense of and persevering in solving challenging mathematics problems and should be expected to do so. Many more students, regardless of gender, ethnicity, and socioeconomic status, need to be given the support, confidence, and opportunities to reach much higher levels of mathematical success and interest. VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated.

Sincerely,
Tina Mazzacane
K-12 Mathematics Coordinator
Virginia Department of Education

You are posting in the wrong group. This is about MCPS and they have stated they are keeping accelerated math. Our principal in MS said they are keeping the different levels. We are not VA or CA so posting what they are doing isn't helpful. Everyone is speculating. They aren't going to get rid of compacted math.

Today. Or Right now. Or because they got cAught trying.

And I understand the problem of low expectations that groups like the one in Virginia are trying to solve. But you make those kids the high flyers too. You give them extra instruction, support and encouragement. You act in loco parent is. It is not a solution to hold the high performers down so that they create behavior problems for the teachers who are trying to do that. And you buy yourself different inequity as people hire math tutors, or sign up for Russian School of Math or Dr Ali. Thanks again Ugh - MCPS - make decisions for our community. Don’t blindly follow the educational community flavor of the month.

What are you rambling about? There hasn't been any changes made to math. And, many of us just supplement with a few workbooks in ES. You don't need to pay for tutors or any of that stuff. You talking about VA for MCPS makes zero sense.

Given that MCPS and FCPS are often compared with one another given the geographic proximity and similarish demographics, it make a lot of sense to look at what FCPS (and VA in general) is doing. Similarly, it also makes sense to keep an eye on the Pacific Northwest when it comes to county politics because MoCo hate to be out-woked be anyone. So if it's happening there, it'll be coming her very soon.

No, one has nothing to do with the other in this situation. MCPS at our middle school has said nothing changes, including compacted math so you are just stirring up trouble to get attention.

A whole bunch of posters have said things have changed, with compacted math. Are they wrong?

The curriculum has changed which would have happened regardless of covid as they are going to Eureka Math. Take to your school instead of speculating. Ours will offer the same classes next year. They just have different names to align with the new curriculum.

Rambling on about FCPS or other places is silly as it has nothing to do with MCPS.

In FCPS, we were told that 22 states are doing the same changes as Virginia. I think you are being naive in thinking they are unrelated.

There are VA section here you can talk about it on. Until it happens, stop creating drama.

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Anonymous wrote:In FCPS, we were told that 22 states are doing the same changes as Virginia. I think you are being naive in thinking they are unrelated.

And Texas is scrubbing slavery from US History. What do they have to do with MCPS?

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Anonymous wrote:Many states have education bureaucracy looking to eliminate advanced math in the name of equity.
All kids would be in the same class learning grade level subjects. No honors classes, and no accelerating forward by a year or more. Virginia was set to do this statewide, but they backed down for the moment with an election coming.
Looks like Maryland is doing it more behind the scenes.

Can you show any evidence to support these claims? Without evidence, this seems like fearmongering.

Look up VMPI for Virginia. AAP Forum here has been running a thread for 3 months on Virginia to eliminate advanced math.

You can find some detail on California by searching for 'Bill Evers WSJ math'. There is an LA Times article and some WSJ editorials within the past few weeks.

VMPI says there is a 22 state consortium pursuing this. Their website has links to papers arguing the need to eliminate tracking.

When someone sent them an e-mail asking them to confirm they would eliminate tracking, the response was

The Virginia Mathematics Pathways Initiative proposals support the vision that all students are capable of making sense of and persevering in solving challenging mathematics problems and should be expected to do so. Many more students, regardless of gender, ethnicity, and socioeconomic status, need to be given the support, confidence, and opportunities to reach much higher levels of mathematical success and interest. VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated.

Sincerely,
Tina Mazzacane
K-12 Mathematics Coordinator
Virginia Department of Education

You are posting in the wrong group. This is about MCPS and they have stated they are keeping accelerated math. Our principal in MS said they are keeping the different levels. We are not VA or CA so posting what they are doing isn't helpful. Everyone is speculating. They aren't going to get rid of compacted math.

Today. Or Right now. Or because they got cAught trying.

And I understand the problem of low expectations that groups like the one in Virginia are trying to solve. But you make those kids the high flyers too. You give them extra instruction, support and encouragement. You act in loco parent is. It is not a solution to hold the high performers down so that they create behavior problems for the teachers who are trying to do that. And you buy yourself different inequity as people hire math tutors, or sign up for Russian School of Math or Dr Ali. Thanks again Ugh - MCPS - make decisions for our community. Don’t blindly follow the educational community flavor of the month.

What are you rambling about? There hasn't been any changes made to math. And, many of us just supplement with a few workbooks in ES. You don't need to pay for tutors or any of that stuff. You talking about VA for MCPS makes zero sense.

Given that MCPS and FCPS are often compared with one another given the geographic proximity and similarish demographics, it make a lot of sense to look at what FCPS (and VA in general) is doing. Similarly, it also makes sense to keep an eye on the Pacific Northwest when it comes to county politics because MoCo hate to be out-woked be anyone. So if it's happening there, it'll be coming her very soon.

No, one has nothing to do with the other in this situation. MCPS at our middle school has said nothing changes, including compacted math so you are just stirring up trouble to get attention.

A whole bunch of posters have said things have changed, with compacted math. Are they wrong?

The curriculum has changed which would have happened regardless of covid as they are going to Eureka Math. Take to your school instead of speculating. Ours will offer the same classes next year. They just have different names to align with the new curriculum.

Rambling on about FCPS or other places is silly as it has nothing to do with MCPS.

If you don't like it, feel free to go private or supplement. Many of us supplement. You can get free online resources or even dollar tree has workbooks.

So your school will offer the same math classes next year but the classes will have different names and they'll use a different curriculum? And that's your "evidence" that nothing's changed? Got it.

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Anonymous wrote:Many states have education bureaucracy looking to eliminate advanced math in the name of equity.
All kids would be in the same class learning grade level subjects. No honors classes, and no accelerating forward by a year or more. Virginia was set to do this statewide, but they backed down for the moment with an election coming.
Looks like Maryland is doing it more behind the scenes.

Can you show any evidence to support these claims? Without evidence, this seems like fearmongering.

Look up VMPI for Virginia. AAP Forum here has been running a thread for 3 months on Virginia to eliminate advanced math.

You can find some detail on California by searching for 'Bill Evers WSJ math'. There is an LA Times article and some WSJ editorials within the past few weeks.

VMPI says there is a 22 state consortium pursuing this. Their website has links to papers arguing the need to eliminate tracking.

When someone sent them an e-mail asking them to confirm they would eliminate tracking, the response was

The Virginia Mathematics Pathways Initiative proposals support the vision that all students are capable of making sense of and persevering in solving challenging mathematics problems and should be expected to do so. Many more students, regardless of gender, ethnicity, and socioeconomic status, need to be given the support, confidence, and opportunities to reach much higher levels of mathematical success and interest. VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated.

Sincerely,
Tina Mazzacane
K-12 Mathematics Coordinator
Virginia Department of Education

You are posting in the wrong group. This is about MCPS and they have stated they are keeping accelerated math. Our principal in MS said they are keeping the different levels. We are not VA or CA so posting what they are doing isn't helpful. Everyone is speculating. They aren't going to get rid of compacted math.

Today. Or Right now. Or because they got cAught trying.

And I understand the problem of low expectations that groups like the one in Virginia are trying to solve. But you make those kids the high flyers too. You give them extra instruction, support and encouragement. You act in loco parent is. It is not a solution to hold the high performers down so that they create behavior problems for the teachers who are trying to do that. And you buy yourself different inequity as people hire math tutors, or sign up for Russian School of Math or Dr Ali. Thanks again Ugh - MCPS - make decisions for our community. Don’t blindly follow the educational community flavor of the month.

What are you rambling about? There hasn't been any changes made to math. And, many of us just supplement with a few workbooks in ES. You don't need to pay for tutors or any of that stuff. You talking about VA for MCPS makes zero sense.

Given that MCPS and FCPS are often compared with one another given the geographic proximity and similarish demographics, it make a lot of sense to look at what FCPS (and VA in general) is doing. Similarly, it also makes sense to keep an eye on the Pacific Northwest when it comes to county politics because MoCo hate to be out-woked be anyone. So if it's happening there, it'll be coming her very soon.

No, one has nothing to do with the other in this situation. MCPS at our middle school has said nothing changes, including compacted math so you are just stirring up trouble to get attention.

A whole bunch of posters have said things have changed, with compacted math. Are they wrong?

The curriculum has changed which would have happened regardless of covid as they are going to Eureka Math. Take to your school instead of speculating. Ours will offer the same classes next year. They just have different names to align with the new curriculum.

Rambling on about FCPS or other places is silly as it has nothing to do with MCPS.

In FCPS, we were told that 22 states are doing the same changes as Virginia. I think you are being naive in thinking they are unrelated.

There are VA section here you can talk about it on. Until it happens, stop creating drama.

That's right! Don't fight against changes that will be detrimental to your kids until MCPS actually makes the changes and it's too late! This goes for busing as well. Don't contact the BOE and tell them that you are happy with your kids' current school assignments and that you don't want them moved until you actually receive a letter telling you that they have been reassigned.