Meghan Markle and Prince Harry News and Updates Part 3

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Here’s a PSA for everyone triggered by Meghan’s experience with racism.

Racism manifests itself in different ways in different environments. The most telling thing is that even all the wealth and privilege in the world cannot protect you from it.

Oprah is one of the wealthiest women in the world. Yet, even she was kicked out of a high end store in Paris because of her skin color.

Meghan Markle is literally a princess and she still had to deal with racist press. The most egregious was the BBC comparing her newborn to a monkey.

These experiences are relevant because success, wealth and power are often considered the solution to fighting racism. This underscores the need for greater societal change.

+1.

Thank god you guys are fighting for poor Oprah’s rights. You’re real difference makers.

Let me spell it out for you:

Oprah was the richest person in the entire city of Paris and she was kicked out of a store for being black. When she spoke out it shone a light on the treatment of black people in Paris. There are often many excuses for racist behavior and excluding black people from white spaces. Oprah’s experience destroys each and every one of those “plausible” justifications.

I’m happy that she was able to draw attention to widespread discrimination in the same way I’m happy Meghan was able to call out the British press for racism. They both used their position and power to force attention on racist practices. Their privilege and power means they cannot be ignored.

Sadly, no one can prevent all discrimination. I’m a woman, so I understand that I will be sexually harassed when I leave my house. But I don’t whine about it constantly. What would be the point?

I’m sorry that you view being vocal about sexually harassment as “whining”. It’s not. It’s a violation of your civil rights.

Maybe if you saw more value in your own civil rights you would be able to value the rights of others.

And that’s why I should be raped, right? Maybe it will teach me a lesson?

Meghan stans are just as classless as their idol.

No, that’s why we should value and stand up for civil rights of all kinds for all people.

I’m not clear how or why you jumped from my comment that you should value your own civil rights as well as the rights of others — to talking about rape and idols.

She’s a dunce.

We're all dunces to be writing this stuff on this thread. Let's be honest.

No, PP is a true idiot and you’re also stupid for attempting to minimize her idiocy.

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Here’s a PSA for everyone triggered by Meghan’s experience with racism.

Racism manifests itself in different ways in different environments. The most telling thing is that even all the wealth and privilege in the world cannot protect you from it.

Oprah is one of the wealthiest women in the world. Yet, even she was kicked out of a high end store in Paris because of her skin color.

Meghan Markle is literally a princess and she still had to deal with racist press. The most egregious was the BBC comparing her newborn to a monkey.

These experiences are relevant because success, wealth and power are often considered the solution to fighting racism. This underscores the need for greater societal change.

+1.

Thank god you guys are fighting for poor Oprah’s rights. You’re real difference makers.

Let me spell it out for you:

Oprah was the richest person in the entire city of Paris and she was kicked out of a store for being black. When she spoke out it shone a light on the treatment of black people in Paris. There are often many excuses for racist behavior and excluding black people from white spaces. Oprah’s experience destroys each and every one of those “plausible” justifications.

I’m happy that she was able to draw attention to widespread discrimination in the same way I’m happy Meghan was able to call out the British press for racism. They both used their position and power to force attention on racist practices. Their privilege and power means they cannot be ignored.

Sadly, no one can prevent all discrimination. I’m a woman, so I understand that I will be sexually harassed when I leave my house. But I don’t whine about it constantly. What would be the point?

I’m sorry that you view being vocal about sexually harassment as “whining”. It’s not. It’s a violation of your civil rights.

Maybe if you saw more value in your own civil rights you would be able to value the rights of others.

And that’s why I should be raped, right? Maybe it will teach me a lesson?

Meghan stans are just as classless as their idol.

No, that’s why we should value and stand up for civil rights of all kinds for all people.

I’m not clear how or why you jumped from my comment that you should value your own civil rights as well as the rights of others — to talking about rape and idols.

She’s a dunce.

We're all dunces to be writing this stuff on this thread. Let's be honest.

Nope. She’s a dunce. She tried to argue that rich people don’t get discriminated against, then that harassment isn’t a big deal so why should anyone complain about it, then tried to argue that the Internet wanted her to be raped when they pulled her bs card on the responsibility we have to speak up around injustice no matter who it is.

We aren’t all dunces.

Indeed we are.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you find it hard to believe? Harry was whining to Oprah that his dad cut him off less than a year ago. He wants his family to give him financial resources for sure. That’s not even debatable.

But they’ve cut extremely lucrative deals since then. Why would he still need to mooch off Pop?

I agree. When you’re an adult and enjoy so much wealth and privilege, why would you still whine about pops not giving you money?

I did not take it as a whine, but a simple statement of fact. He is also letting those like yourself understand that the reason he is making such lucrative deals is because he no longer have the financial support of the crown and must make money, by any means necessary to take care of his family.

Then he should be thanking them for making him so rich.

DP. Agree. Neither Harry nor Meghan is uniquely talented. All of their wealth is because of the BRF.

Except for what Harry inherited from his mother and except for the amount Meghan had made with her career.

You do understand that the money Harry inherited from his mother was from the divorce settlement she received from the BRF. Meghan has a couple million when she married Harry. As an actor in her mid-30s and with her side gigs, that is not a lot of money.

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The BRF did speak up for Meghan. They put forward statements for her.

Beyond that, the usual way that they address problems is with silence. They gave her the same courtesy they give to other members of the family - by being above the media.

You didn't notice any of this...

DP: Yes, silence has often been effective in the face of racism. At least that’s what some people like to claim. /s

DP. In the past few years, Meghan has become enormously powerful, wealthy, and influential. If she’s been suffering from vicious racism this whole time, then lots of us will want to volunteer for some racial discrimination.

It minimizes actual racism when people pretend Meghan has been suffering from immense racism. Many people have experienced serious racism, but their lives don’t look a lot like Meghan’s.

I know you are smart enough to know that does not insulate a person fully from racism. Oprah is also very wealthy and influential, but that did not prevent ugly racism from rearing its nasty head against her in many directions. She has opined about it, and most people know about the Hermes incident. Clarence Thomas spoke at the National Bar Association many years ago, wherein he spoke of being pulled over several times for "driving while Black". Nothing has stopped the nasty, disgusting pictures and statements comparing Michelle Obama to an ape or horse. Let's not mention the extra security the SS had and has to provide to Barack simply because of the threats he receives due to his race. I won't even try to address your immense racism comment. It's like if you a person does not experience "for whites only", lynching, physical acts, etc. then racism is not so bad and no need to complain. You are wrong, every little knick and cut adds up and it is tiring, frustrating, exhausting and depressing.

Uh Camilla regularly was compared to a horse. And lots people dont like Obama because of his policies. You can dislike people for reasons other than race ya know.

Now I’m supposed feel sorry for Oprah because she’s supposedly a victim of racism? That’s gonna be a no from me.

Oprah is among the most privileged people in the world. God love her! She’s earned it.

Nobody asked you to feel sorry for Oprah or anyone else. The point is that money does not insulate a person from being on the receiving end of racism. Just like money does not insulate a person from the receiving end of sexism.

DP. You’re wrong. Money does indeed insulate a person from discrimination. Do you really believe rich people experience as much discrimination as poor people? That’s just silly.

Not as much, but they do experience it. It it is still, too much. Or do you think a little bit of racism is good. How much is a little bit and how much is too much for it to be acceptable for you.

There’s no need to pretend money doesn’t insulate rich people. Why did you do that?

Oprah was not insulated. Clarence Thomas was not insulated when he was pulled over multiple times for DWB. Do you think because they were not killed they were not affected by racism. Wow.

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What comes to mind for me right now is this scene, written by Hollywood years ago because it is SO TRUE that no matter how rich, light skinned or powerful/famous you may think you are —- racism doesn’t GAF.

Black Celebs Racislly Profiled
https://www.theroot.com/celebs-whove-been-racially-profiled-1790868366


Famous AAs Overcoming Racism
https://historyplex.com/famous-african-american-people

Everybody in the room spat in your Coke”: black celebrities tell their first experience with racism
https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/2/14/14599396/black-celebrities-racism

Names that come to mind?
Dorothy Dandridge
Ray Charles
Oprah Winfrey
Barack & Michelle Obama
Megan Markle

Remember when all the black peoples started talking to their friends about being racially profiled and how we just don’t talk about it?

It’s not up for debate — and sometimes honestly it just ain’t up for discussion either.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you find it hard to believe? Harry was whining to Oprah that his dad cut him off less than a year ago. He wants his family to give him financial resources for sure. That’s not even debatable.

But they’ve cut extremely lucrative deals since then. Why would he still need to mooch off Pop?

I agree. When you’re an adult and enjoy so much wealth and privilege, why would you still whine about pops not giving you money?

I did not take it as a whine, but a simple statement of fact. He is also letting those like yourself understand that the reason he is making such lucrative deals is because he no longer have the financial support of the crown and must make money, by any means necessary to take care of his family.

Then he should be thanking them for making him so rich.

DP. Agree. Neither Harry nor Meghan is uniquely talented. All of their wealth is because of the BRF.

Except for what Harry inherited from his mother and except for the amount Meghan had made with her career.

You do understand that the money Harry inherited from his mother was from the divorce settlement she received from the BRF. Meghan has a couple million when she married Harry. As an actor in her mid-30s and with her side gigs, that is not a lot of money.

You’re acting as if the money that Charles controls is his money that he earned. That’s not the case at all.

It’s money that’s been inherited over generations. The queen didn’t earn it. Charles didn’t earn it. It is earmarked for the family. Harry complaining about being cut off from his family trust is no more “mooching” than Charles or the queen are. It’s theirs by birth. Cutting off Harry’s access at a time when he had a young son and needed security was incredibly spiteful. His family turned their backs on him when he needed them the most. As is often said on this site: They showed him who they are and he believed them.

Judging by his success in the past year alone, he will never put himself in such a position again. Good for him. Good for his growing family.

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Anonymous wrote:What comes to mind for me right now is this scene, written by Hollywood years ago because it is SO TRUE that no matter how rich, light skinned or powerful/famous you may think you are —- racism doesn’t GAF.

Black Celebs Racislly Profiled
https://www.theroot.com/celebs-whove-been-racially-profiled-1790868366


Famous AAs Overcoming Racism
https://historyplex.com/famous-african-american-people

Everybody in the room spat in your Coke”: black celebrities tell their first experience with racism
https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/2/14/14599396/black-celebrities-racism

Names that come to mind?
Dorothy Dandridge
Ray Charles
Oprah Winfrey
Barack & Michelle Obama
Megan Markle

Remember when all the black peoples started talking to their friends about being racially profiled and how we just don’t talk about it?

It’s not up for debate — and sometimes honestly it just ain’t up for discussion either.

Perfectly said! And sadly and accurately illustrated.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What comes to mind for me right now is this scene, written by Hollywood years ago because it is SO TRUE that no matter how rich, light skinned or powerful/famous you may think you are —- racism doesn’t GAF.

Black Celebs Racislly Profiled
https://www.theroot.com/celebs-whove-been-racially-profiled-1790868366


Famous AAs Overcoming Racism
https://historyplex.com/famous-african-american-people

Everybody in the room spat in your Coke”: black celebrities tell their first experience with racism
https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/2/14/14599396/black-celebrities-racism

Names that come to mind?
Dorothy Dandridge
Ray Charles
Oprah Winfrey
Barack & Michelle Obama
Megan Markle

Remember when all the black peoples started talking to their friends about being racially profiled and how we just don’t talk about it?

It’s not up for debate — and sometimes honestly it just ain’t up for discussion either.

Perfectly said! And sadly and accurately illustrated.

Maybe PP could post this on a new thread instead of on this frivolous nonsense thread?

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You’re acting as if the money that Charles controls is his money that he earned. That’s not the case at all.

It’s money that’s been inherited over generations. The queen didn’t earn it. Charles didn’t earn it. It is earmarked for the family. Harry complaining about being cut off from his family trust is no more “mooching” than Charles or the queen are. It’s theirs by birth. Cutting off Harry’s access at a time when he had a young son and needed security was incredibly spiteful. His family turned their backs on him when he needed them the most. As is often said on this site: They showed him who they are and he believed them.

Judging by his success in the past year alone, he will never put himself in such a position again. Good for him. Good for his growing family.

That money is reserved for working members of the royal family. It's not theirs by birthright. Harry comes across incredibly entitled when he's tantruming about being denied "his" money. Paying for the security of a nonworking royal on ANOTHER CONTINENT? You must be joking.

It's almost as bad as Meghan bleating about Archie not "being titled the way other grandchildren are." What? Girl, did no one explain to you how the family works? There is no equal treatment across grandchildren. And there AREN'T any "other grandchildren", not really. Charles, the heir to the throne, has two children. There's William, who will be king. And there's Harry, who won't be king. The future king's children are princes. The children of someone who is not a future king are not. What part of it is not gettable? Or did they figure it would play better to the American audiences to imply that Archie was "stripped" of his title because of his mixed race origin?

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H&M don't even have to do anything. The palace haters are doing it all for them.

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You’re acting as if the money that Charles controls is his money that he earned. That’s not the case at all.

It’s money that’s been inherited over generations. The queen didn’t earn it. Charles didn’t earn it. It is earmarked for the family. Harry complaining about being cut off from his family trust is no more “mooching” than Charles or the queen are. It’s theirs by birth. Cutting off Harry’s access at a time when he had a young son and needed security was incredibly spiteful. His family turned their backs on him when he needed them the most. As is often said on this site: They showed him who they are and he believed them.

Judging by his success in the past year alone, he will never put himself in such a position again. Good for him. Good for his growing family.

That money is reserved for working members of the royal family. It's not theirs by birthright. Harry comes across incredibly entitled when he's tantruming about being denied "his" money. Paying for the security of a nonworking royal on ANOTHER CONTINENT? You must be joking.

It's almost as bad as Meghan bleating about Archie not "being titled the way other grandchildren are." What? Girl, did no one explain to you how the family works? There is no equal treatment across grandchildren. And there AREN'T any "other grandchildren", not really. Charles, the heir to the throne, has two children. There's William, who will be king. And there's Harry, who won't be king. The future king's children are princes. The children of someone who is not a future king are not. What part of it is not gettable? Or did they figure it would play better to the American audiences to imply that Archie was "stripped" of his title because of his mixed race origin?

The brilliant thing about your quote is that the money Charles' controls is from the Duchy of Cornwall. Did you know that Cornwall is the poorest county in the U.K. with the worst outcomes for income? They're so poor that the EU sends them humanitarian aid. All their money is siphoned off into $40 million a year to fund Charles, his four palaces, and the two palaces for W/K.

Over a quarter of children lived in poverty in Cornwall in 2016, and the county also has the one of the highest homelessness rates in the country.

http://inequalitybriefing.org/graphics/briefing_43_UK_regions_poorest_North_Europe.pdf

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Here’s a PSA for everyone triggered by Meghan’s experience with racism.

Racism manifests itself in different ways in different environments. The most telling thing is that even all the wealth and privilege in the world cannot protect you from it.

Oprah is one of the wealthiest women in the world. Yet, even she was kicked out of a high end store in Paris because of her skin color.

Meghan Markle is literally a princess and she still had to deal with racist press. The most egregious was the BBC comparing her newborn to a monkey.

These experiences are relevant because success, wealth and power are often considered the solution to fighting racism. This underscores the need for greater societal change.

"The BBC" did NOT compare Meghan's newborn to a monkey. An idiot BBC presenter posted the cartoon on his own personal Twitter account, faced immediate and significant backlash by several prominent media personalities, and was promptly fired from the BBC specifically for this behavior. They were clear about it. https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-48212693

To say that this an example of systematic racist treatment of Meghan "in the British media" is disingenuous and false. Obviously, she has an interest in pushing this narrative, but using this example is off base. And I'm a WOC.

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You’re acting as if the money that Charles controls is his money that he earned. That’s not the case at all.

It’s money that’s been inherited over generations. The queen didn’t earn it. Charles didn’t earn it. It is earmarked for the family. Harry complaining about being cut off from his family trust is no more “mooching” than Charles or the queen are. It’s theirs by birth. Cutting off Harry’s access at a time when he had a young son and needed security was incredibly spiteful. His family turned their backs on him when he needed them the most. As is often said on this site: They showed him who they are and he believed them.

Judging by his success in the past year alone, he will never put himself in such a position again. Good for him. Good for his growing family.

That money is reserved for working members of the royal family. It's not theirs by birthright. Harry comes across incredibly entitled when he's tantruming about being denied "his" money. Paying for the security of a nonworking royal on ANOTHER CONTINENT? You must be joking.

It's almost as bad as Meghan bleating about Archie not "being titled the way other grandchildren are." What? Girl, did no one explain to you how the family works? There is no equal treatment across grandchildren. And there AREN'T any "other grandchildren", not really. Charles, the heir to the throne, has two children. There's William, who will be king. And there's Harry, who won't be king. The future king's children are princes. The children of someone who is not a future king are not. What part of it is not gettable? Or did they figure it would play better to the American audiences to imply that Archie was "stripped" of his title because of his mixed race origin?

The brilliant thing about your quote is that the money Charles' controls is from the Duchy of Cornwall. Did you know that Cornwall is the poorest county in the U.K. with the worst outcomes for income? They're so poor that the EU sends them humanitarian aid. All their money is siphoned off into $40 million a year to fund Charles, his four palaces, and the two palaces for W/K.

Over a quarter of children lived in poverty in Cornwall in 2016, and the county also has the one of the highest homelessness rates in the country.

http://inequalitybriefing.org/graphics/briefing_43_UK_regions_poorest_North_Europe.pdf

You've convinced me. Against this new information, Prince Charles should DEFINITELY pay for lifelong security anywhere in the world for his nonworking royal son.

[Anonymous]

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You’re acting as if the money that Charles controls is his money that he earned. That’s not the case at all.

It’s money that’s been inherited over generations. The queen didn’t earn it. Charles didn’t earn it. It is earmarked for the family. Harry complaining about being cut off from his family trust is no more “mooching” than Charles or the queen are. It’s theirs by birth. Cutting off Harry’s access at a time when he had a young son and needed security was incredibly spiteful. His family turned their backs on him when he needed them the most. As is often said on this site: They showed him who they are and he believed them.

Judging by his success in the past year alone, he will never put himself in such a position again. Good for him. Good for his growing family.

That money is reserved for working members of the royal family. It's not theirs by birthright. Harry comes across incredibly entitled when he's tantruming about being denied "his" money. Paying for the security of a nonworking royal on ANOTHER CONTINENT? You must be joking.

It's almost as bad as Meghan bleating about Archie not "being titled the way other grandchildren are." What? Girl, did no one explain to you how the family works? There is no equal treatment across grandchildren. And there AREN'T any "other grandchildren", not really. Charles, the heir to the throne, has two children. There's William, who will be king. And there's Harry, who won't be king. The future king's children are princes. The children of someone who is not a future king are not. What part of it is not gettable? Or did they figure it would play better to the American audiences to imply that Archie was "stripped" of his title because of his mixed race origin?

It’s not reserved for working royals. There are two different pots of money. The Queen for example has money as part of the sovereign grant and her own personal inheritance which she can do whatever she wants with it. Same with Charles and everyone else. That’s how William has given money to his ILs to purchase properties and how Andrew supported his daughters prior to their marriages (they both work but don’t make enough to live the lifestyle they were). Ultimately, it’s Charles decision if he wants to give them money or not but all of the things they have done to monetize their celebrity are pretty foreseeable so don’t really feel bad for the royals either. The money is a means of control.