ludlow-taylor

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So apparently the parents who live inbounds for Brent are all virtuous, altruistic, and kind, whereas those IB for LT are racist, classist, mean-spirited, and exclusionary.

Seems rather unlikely.

Noooooooo, the parents at L-T are lazy and entitled; they want a school like Brent or Maury without putting in any of the work. To be fair, it's way more work than I would be able to put into my neighborhood school, either.

To be fair, it's not about "lazy" or "entitled", it's about what's called "relative deprivation" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_deprivation), the feeling of "relatively" being much worse off by comparison to something that's much better (or thought to be much better!), and to which one feels entitled to.

Okay, this is just crazy. Shouldn't everyone feel "entitled" to a decent education for our children? Good grief. What a sad state of affairs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For everyone complaining about all the things other people are doing wrong or aren't doing, what could you do to make the school a better place? And I don't mean hypothetically if you were the head of DCPS. What could you do right now in your capacity to contribute instead of tearing it down at every turn?

Here goes. LT down above PreK for one school year. Reassign the mainstream IB kids to Payne and JO Wilson, the OOB kids to their IB schools, and the SN kids bused in to the best programs for SN.

Re-open with a new head (a graduate of an elite college and graduate school), mostly new teachers (mix of races, white, Asian, Latino), new PTA with bona fide IB leadership. Have IB parent volunteers do home visits/investigations for all IB kids enrolling, shutting down the PG County address cheaters.

I'd go with pullout groups for advanced learners from grade 2, advertising this to the IB community in advance. I'd also put in place a system for looping up for math and reading in the upper grades, like Brent now has, from the get go.

I'd introduce a serious (non-immersion, non-elective) foreign language program from PreS3, probably for Spanish, as well as Singapore Math (which Maury uses) or Saxon Math (which BASIS uses). Above all, I would end social promotion. Kids who can't score proficient on the DC-CAS from 2nd grade attend summer school and try again. If they fail a second time, they do not advance. They repeat the grade or enter a separate SN program.

Do it and watch LT take off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So apparently the parents who live inbounds for Brent are all virtuous, altruistic, and kind, whereas those IB for LT are racist, classist, mean-spirited, and exclusionary.

Seems rather unlikely.

Noooooooo, the parents at L-T are lazy and entitled; they want a school like Brent or Maury without putting in any of the work. To be fair, it's way more work than I would be able to put into my neighborhood school, either.

To be fair, it's not about "lazy" or "entitled", it's about what's called "relative deprivation" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_deprivation), the feeling of "relatively" being much worse off by comparison to something that's much better (or thought to be much better!), and to which one feels entitled to.

Okay, this is just crazy. Shouldn't everyone feel "entitled" to a decent education for our children? Good grief. What a sad state of affairs.

If you find my "to be fair" statement offensive, then you're a great example of "relative deprivation". This school, and many others in DCPS, are by far better off than what we encountered at our now sought-after DCPS a few years back. Yet, you decry it as sup-par, not "decent", exactly because you feel 'relatively deprived'.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So apparently the parents who live inbounds for Brent are all virtuous, altruistic, and kind, whereas those IB for LT are racist, classist, mean-spirited, and exclusionary.

Seems rather unlikely.

Noooooooo, the parents at L-T are lazy and entitled; they want a school like Brent or Maury without putting in any of the work. To be fair, it's way more work than I would be able to put into my neighborhood school, either.

To be fair, it's not about "lazy" or "entitled", it's about what's called "relative deprivation" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_deprivation), the feeling of "relatively" being much worse off by comparison to something that's much better (or thought to be much better!), and to which one feels entitled to.

Okay, this is just crazy. Shouldn't everyone feel "entitled" to a decent education for our children? Good grief. What a sad state of affairs.

If you find my "to be fair" statement offensive, then you're a great example of "relative deprivation". This school, and many others in DCPS, are by far better off than what we encountered at our now sought-after DCPS a few years back. Yet, you decry it as sup-par, not "decent", exactly because you feel 'relatively deprived'.

I'm speechless. Truly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For everyone complaining about all the things other people are doing wrong or aren't doing, what could you do to make the school a better place? And I don't mean hypothetically if you were the head of DCPS. What could you do right now in your capacity to contribute instead of tearing it down at every turn?

Here goes. LT down above PreK for one school year. Reassign the mainstream IB kids to Payne and JO Wilson, the OOB kids to their IB schools, and the SN kids bused in to the best programs for SN.

Re-open with a new head (a graduate of an elite college and graduate school), mostly new teachers (mix of races, white, Asian, Latino), new PTA with bona fide IB leadership. Have IB parent volunteers do home visits/investigations for all IB kids enrolling, shutting down the PG County address cheaters.

I'd go with pullout groups for advanced learners from grade 2, advertising this to the IB community in advance. I'd also put in place a system for looping up for math and reading in the upper grades, like Brent now has, from the get go.

I'd introduce a serious (non-immersion, non-elective) foreign language program from PreS3, probably for Spanish, as well as Singapore Math (which Maury uses) or Saxon Math (which BASIS uses). Above all, I would end social promotion. Kids who can't score proficient on the DC-CAS from 2nd grade attend summer school and try again. If they fail a second time, they do not advance. They repeat the grade or enter a separate SN program.

Do it and watch LT take off.


Wow...someone took a crash course in educational policy. I actually laughed out loud when I read this. Especially the bold. What do you find problematic about the teachers? Also please share with me exactly what makes you think Principal Cobbs did not recieve her master's degree from an institution that meets your standards? I mean I get the neighborhood snob thing but now we have degree snobs on here. Yikes.

So confused why people move to Stanton Park when they clearly have racial and SES hang ups. The neighborhood is mixed in terms of SES. people have owned houses for a while, people rent, there is rent control, etc. Why not move somewhere else? Weird.

[Anonymous]

People do not like the teachers because they are black. Not because of any form of personal interaction or anything logical. Duh.

[Anonymous]

Whoa. Is this not the school where the principal and at least some of the teachers are most likely involved in some intense cheating on th DC cas and have taken cash bonuses for those scores? That itself is enough to turn people off

[Anonymous]

If PP allegations were indeed true- You really think DCPS would let that just slide by? Come on- and as someone who works for DCPS- Cash bonus! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHA.

[Anonymous]

^^^ the sarcasm is strong with this one

[Anonymous]

*thanks*

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Wow...someone took a crash course in educational policy. I actually laughed out loud when I read this. Especially the bold. What do you find problematic about the teachers? Also please share with me exactly what makes you think Principal Cobbs did not recieve her master's degree from an institution that meets your standards? I mean I get the neighborhood snob thing but now we have degree snobs on here. Yikes.

So confused why people move to Stanton Park when they clearly have racial and SES hang ups. The neighborhood is mixed in terms of SES. people have owned houses for a while, people rent, there is rent control, etc. Why not move somewhere else? Weird.

OK, so you're laughing, but what, exactly, are you proposing?

The Brent and Maury principals are far better educated that Cobbs and yea, let's face it, white and gentrifier friendly in a majority high-SES neighborhood (which doesn't hurt if attracting nervous IB parents is the goal). Bring on the degree snobs if they can do something about LT's erasure habit. We're AA in STEM careers who won't touch LT with a ten-foot pole (so put that in your pipe and smoke it, Ms. Yikes). So confused as to why PPs waste time tearing down others with intriguing ideas, calling PPs hung up to compensate for their lack of initiative, vision and, above all, intellectual wattage. Not weird, just sad.

[Anonymous]

What's really sad is that DCPS doesn't care if more IB families use the school. If they did, they'd at least have replaced Cobbs when both in-boundary numbers above K and CAS scores started dropping several years back.

[Anonymous]

It does seem odd to me that inbounds families are so shocked and dismayed. I mean, you bought in-bounds for a school you think is crappy, and it's still crappy. I'm sure you planned to move or go private with your kids, just like generations of DC parents before us. What is all this outrage about?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For everyone complaining about all the things other people are doing wrong or aren't doing, what could you do to make the school a better place? And I don't mean hypothetically if you were the head of DCPS. What could you do right now in your capacity to contribute instead of tearing it down at every turn?

Here goes. LT down above PreK for one school year. Reassign the mainstream IB kids to Payne and JO Wilson, the OOB kids to their IB schools, and the SN kids bused in to the best programs for SN.

Re-open with a new head (a graduate of an elite college and graduate school), mostly new teachers (mix of races, white, Asian, Latino), new PTA with bona fide IB leadership. Have IB parent volunteers do home visits/investigations for all IB kids enrolling, shutting down the PG County address cheaters.

I'd go with pullout groups for advanced learners from grade 2, advertising this to the IB community in advance. I'd also put in place a system for looping up for math and reading in the upper grades, like Brent now has, from the get go.

I'd introduce a serious (non-immersion, non-elective) foreign language program from PreS3, probably for Spanish, as well as Singapore Math (which Maury uses) or Saxon Math (which BASIS uses). Above all, I would end social promotion. Kids who can't score proficient on the DC-CAS from 2nd grade attend summer school and try again. If they fail a second time, they do not advance. They repeat the grade or enter a separate SN program.

Do it and watch LT take off.

Flat out no. You don't improve a school by eliminating an SN program and/or SN students. That is just as illegal as improving a school by eliminating children of color.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Wow...someone took a crash course in educational policy. I actually laughed out loud when I read this. Especially the bold. What do you find problematic about the teachers? Also please share with me exactly what makes you think Principal Cobbs did not recieve her master's degree from an institution that meets your standards? I mean I get the neighborhood snob thing but now we have degree snobs on here. Yikes.

So confused why people move to Stanton Park when they clearly have racial and SES hang ups. The neighborhood is mixed in terms of SES. people have owned houses for a while, people rent, there is rent control, etc. Why not move somewhere else? Weird.

OK, so you're laughing, but what, exactly, are you proposing?

The Brent and Maury principals are far better educated that Cobbs and yea, let's face it, white and gentrifier friendly in a majority high-SES neighborhood (which doesn't hurt if attracting nervous IB parents is the goal). Bring on the degree snobs if they can do something about LT's erasure habit. We're AA in STEM careers who won't touch LT with a ten-foot pole (so put that in your pipe and smoke it, Ms. Yikes). So confused as to why PPs waste time tearing down others with intriguing ideas, calling PPs hung up to compensate for their lack of initiative, vision and, above all, intellectual wattage. Not weird, just sad.




FYI Principal Cobbs holds a degree in Elementary Education from Northwestern University.

And there was no cheating. Get over that.