A thread of optimism: why do you think Trump will win in 2020?

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Anonymous wrote:No POC will vote for t-Rump in 2020. Same goes for women.

I'm a person of color and I will be voting for Trump in 2020. My wife, who I can assure you is an actual woman as she gave birth to our children, is also voting for Trump in 2020.

Well you are one of the small minority. Vote for the conman, white supremacist all you want but he won't respect you.

DP. You can keep repeating your utter nonsense, but no one is buying it. Well, those of us with any common sense, that is. You just sound like a petulant child who isn’t getting your way. Not a good look.

+1.

I didn't vote for Trump in 2016, but the Petulant Children's Party is making that choice easier by the day.

Many I know voted for the conman but the petulant display by the liar in the white house is making the choice easier. Trump's approval has fallen in EVERY SINGLE STATE since 2017. And his overall avg approval never crossed 43%.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo

https://morningconsult.com/tracking-trump/

You're using a source that had HRC winning in 2016 election. You never learn, do you?

Ha ha, you cultists don’t believe in any poll because all of them shows the loser losing to pretty much anyone in 2020. I bet you would believe in the polls if even one of them shows him winning. I don’t believe in any single poll. I do believe in avg of polls and they were right in 2016 and will be right in 2020. You don’t get stats and polls and odds. Too late to learn. So believe what you what, he is going down as the worst ever in American history.

This may be the case but it doesn't mean he isn't going to win again. If you think he is going to lose to 'pretty much anyone' in 2020 you are kidding yourself. Beto, Kamala, Booker, Warren, Buttieg.....none of these people will ever be president of the united states. It's just not going to happen. Biden, maybe I guess but I feel like his full frontal style will play right into DJT's hands. He is going to use the exact same playbook as last time and unless democrats get it together, he is going to win again. You may think that anyone else is better but I think that is bubble thinking. He won last time without convincing a single person in the DC area that he should be president. Could have lost every vote and it wouldn't have mattered. He is not running a campaign to please you and you may not realize it but he has actually turned into a pretty good campaign manager.

The exact same play book as last time won’t work because Hillary isn’t the candidate and there is no last minute email case being reopened. People are tired of a troll for a president whose FT Job is tweeting. The lazy ass conman has no more “newness” and benefit of the doubt. It is reflected in his approval never climbing above 43% avg. Anyone who could read and care about the country and read the Mueller report are convinced that he is Russian puppet. His taxes are coming out one way or another and that will expose him as the lifelong fraud that he is. Stop deluding and believe in America because we still have a majority that of people who are decent, patriotic, diverse and believe in our democracy and ideals. The cult may be with the traitor but you guys are barely 40% and that’s not enough to even be selected by the EC.

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Anonymous wrote:No POC will vote for t-Rump in 2020. Same goes for women.

I'm a person of color and I will be voting for Trump in 2020. My wife, who I can assure you is an actual woman as she gave birth to our children, is also voting for Trump in 2020.

Well you are one of the small minority. Vote for the conman, white supremacist all you want but he won't respect you.

DP. You can keep repeating your utter nonsense, but no one is buying it. Well, those of us with any common sense, that is. You just sound like a petulant child who isn’t getting your way. Not a good look.

+1.

I didn't vote for Trump in 2016, but the Petulant Children's Party is making that choice easier by the day.

Many I know voted for the conman but the petulant display by the liar in the white house is making the choice easier. Trump's approval has fallen in EVERY SINGLE STATE since 2017. And his overall avg approval never crossed 43%.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo

https://morningconsult.com/tracking-trump/

You're using a source that had HRC winning in 2016 election. You never learn, do you?

Ha ha, you cultists don’t believe in any poll because all of them shows the loser losing to pretty much anyone in 2020. I bet you would believe in the polls if even one of them shows him winning. I don’t believe in any single poll. I do believe in avg of polls and they were right in 2016 and will be right in 2020. You don’t get stats and polls and odds. Too late to learn. So believe what you what, he is going down as the worst ever in American history.

This may be the case but it doesn't mean he isn't going to win again. If you think he is going to lose to 'pretty much anyone' in 2020 you are kidding yourself. Beto, Kamala, Booker, Warren, Buttieg.....none of these people will ever be president of the united states. It's just not going to happen. Biden, maybe I guess but I feel like his full frontal style will play right into DJT's hands. He is going to use the exact same playbook as last time and unless democrats get it together, he is going to win again. You may think that anyone else is better but I think that is bubble thinking. He won last time without convincing a single person in the DC area that he should be president. Could have lost every vote and it wouldn't have mattered. He is not running a campaign to please you and you may not realize it but he has actually turned into a pretty good campaign manager.

Completely agree. He's not an a$$-kisser, nor should he be.

As for Biden, I always feel like he's acting. Acting the part of the benevolent elder statesman. Acting the part of "everyman". He says what he thinks people want to hear, and it just rings false. Tiresome and a turnoff.

As supposed to the reality TV presidency of third rate actors.

Trump's not an actor, nor was he ever one. What are you babbling about?

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Anonymous wrote:No POC will vote for t-Rump in 2020. Same goes for women.

I'm a person of color and I will be voting for Trump in 2020. My wife, who I can assure you is an actual woman as she gave birth to our children, is also voting for Trump in 2020.

Well you are one of the small minority. Vote for the conman, white supremacist all you want but he won't respect you.

DP. You can keep repeating your utter nonsense, but no one is buying it. Well, those of us with any common sense, that is. You just sound like a petulant child who isn’t getting your way. Not a good look.

+1.

I didn't vote for Trump in 2016, but the Petulant Children's Party is making that choice easier by the day.

Many I know voted for the conman but the petulant display by the liar in the white house is making the choice easier. Trump's approval has fallen in EVERY SINGLE STATE since 2017. And his overall avg approval never crossed 43%.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo

https://morningconsult.com/tracking-trump/

You're using a source that had HRC winning in 2016 election. You never learn, do you?

Ha ha, you cultists don’t believe in any poll because all of them shows the loser losing to pretty much anyone in 2020. I bet you would believe in the polls if even one of them shows him winning. I don’t believe in any single poll. I do believe in avg of polls and they were right in 2016 and will be right in 2020. You don’t get stats and polls and odds. Too late to learn. So believe what you what, he is going down as the worst ever in American history.

Dear crazy troll,

No avg of polls was right about 2016.

As another PP asked you, please stop trolling.

If you want to engage with arguments and less name-calling and outright craziness, please try. If not, go and enjoy a thread more of your liking.

GM Troll! How about you stop supporting the MAGA troll who lies day in and day out and does nothing but tweet like a crazy old man. Name calling is the new thing that the Conman popularized and is considered anti PC by the cultists. You don’t like your own medicine.

Dude: you're in the wrong thread. Take your crazy, trolling posts over to this one: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/807167.page

-DP

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Anonymous wrote:On the contrary, I think it's a brilliant move.

Frankly surprised he didn't think of it earlier.

This should have been part of NAFTA since the 90s, when Perot warned us about a certain giant sucking sound...

China is worlds largest economy, largest market(for many American companies too) , largest trader, and largest economy throughout human history (but for the times it was second to India) but for about 150 years.

China is a natural force and we can’t stop them. China was brought down by free slave labor and free plunder from native Americans. Free market will always find the best place to make things for the lowest cost. You try to be protective the cost rises to consumers, the company becomes complacent without global competitions and product quality suffers and the decline starts.

LOL, you are that China shill. Your arguments are so repetitive and idiotic that it's obvious whenever you post. Still trying to draw a connection between the slaves in the US and the economic collapse of insular China in the 19th century? I'm surprised that you have not mentioned that China has 5000 years of history. There is nothing unstoppable about China, nor does the US want to stop China so long as they play fairly on the world stage - the same way we don't try to stop Germany, Australia, or any of our other strong allies in the world. You'll notice that no one outside of Russia and North Korea speaks up in defense of China because China doesn't have any real friends on the world stage. To the extent that the US and the rest of the world trades with China only occur from the standpoint that we are tolerating China's misbehaviors up to a point. Now we come to that point where we can't tolerate them anymore and the rest of the world agrees.

Saying like it is doesn’t make me anyone’s shrill. In the long run, America with 5% of global market needs access to Chinese market and other Asian markets. We can’t be isolated to 5% market and be expected to prosper. That’s the reality we need to face. A smarter way to approach China is form an equally large internal trade zone, like TPP, and then challenge China. Fighting with our allies, neighbors and with China at the same time is stupid and it only harms us. Everyone sees us as the bully and not China because he doesn’t cooperate with anyone. Imagine that. EU, Canada and Mx consider America to be bigger bully thanChina. That’s what the “narcisstic expert of all things” has done successfully.

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Anonymous wrote:(And please please please, my only request to you: don't engage in violence against that "darkness" that according to you needs to be "cleansed." That's how real trouble starts)

Violence is the trademark of WHITE SUPREMACISTS, a GOP special. We are just gonna just push through liberal policies one after another because YOU CAN'T DENY AMERICANS WHAT THEY WANT.

Both sides have white supremacists - historically and currently.

What liberal policies are being pushed through?

We don't live in the past. In the current, no white supremacists are democrats. You can't try to play the same conman game of "both sides".

All trump has done is pass tax cuts for the rich. Everything is going where the progressives are going. Tax cuts are easy to reverse but not Obamacare or fuel standards or gay marriage.

1: Gay marriage is law.
2: Financial regulation are the law. Next step - taxes on the rich is going higher.
3. Obamacare is the law and is very popular. Next stop universal healthcare.
4. Climate change is now being fought by CA,NY and Obama fuel standards stays BECAUSE CA and NY dictates that. No auto company will make one for CA and another for red states.


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LOL, you think democrats arent racist? what? wrong.

You need to check a few recent newspapers on the things on your list. the ACA is in trouble and is in fact in litigation to be cancelled. Your climate change point is completely nonsensical.

You are also crazy if you think taxes on the rich are going higher considering taxes were just lowered on the rich and corporations!

+1.

Dem PP is truly deluded.

Having said that, if his Party of Delusion takes over, you can bet on higher taxes -- on everyone.

The only way to pay for their promises is to, like in Europe, to introduce something like a 25% sales/ VAT tax, to double payroll taxes, and to significantly increase income taxes on the middle class.

+2
The insane liberal PP needs to be called out for the troll s/he is. It's so obvious. Look at the bizarre syntax. We're wasting our time trying to have a rational conversation with someone who is clearly irrational. Notice how any actual "real" liberals have deserted this thread, leaving the weirdo to fend for him/herself? Even they know it's a troll.

Uh, no. I got tired of the MAGA circle jerk. The delusions, racism, and misogyny get old after several pages.

Right. You're the same old troll who continues to insult Trump voters. Talk about delusions, racism, and misogyny. You have dragged this thread so far off-topic. Hopefully Jeff will see this and kick you out.

I haven’t posted very much on this thread. You are confusing posters. In fact, I was explaining why I was avoiding this thread. It wasn’t that liberal’s posts. It was the nonstop MAGA circle jerk, full of RWNJs.

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Anonymous wrote:No POC will vote for t-Rump in 2020. Same goes for women.

I'm a person of color and I will be voting for Trump in 2020. My wife, who I can assure you is an actual woman as she gave birth to our children, is also voting for Trump in 2020.

Well you are one of the small minority. Vote for the conman, white supremacist all you want but he won't respect you.

DP. You can keep repeating your utter nonsense, but no one is buying it. Well, those of us with any common sense, that is. You just sound like a petulant child who isn’t getting your way. Not a good look.

+1.

I didn't vote for Trump in 2016, but the Petulant Children's Party is making that choice easier by the day.

Many I know voted for the conman but the petulant display by the liar in the white house is making the choice easier. Trump's approval has fallen in EVERY SINGLE STATE since 2017. And his overall avg approval never crossed 43%.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo

https://morningconsult.com/tracking-trump/

You're using a source that had HRC winning in 2016 election. You never learn, do you?

Ha ha, you cultists don’t believe in any poll because all of them shows the loser losing to pretty much anyone in 2020. I bet you would believe in the polls if even one of them shows him winning. I don’t believe in any single poll. I do believe in avg of polls and they were right in 2016 and will be right in 2020. You don’t get stats and polls and odds. Too late to learn. So believe what you what, he is going down as the worst ever in American history.

This may be the case but it doesn't mean he isn't going to win again. If you think he is going to lose to 'pretty much anyone' in 2020 you are kidding yourself. Beto, Kamala, Booker, Warren, Buttieg.....none of these people will ever be president of the united states. It's just not going to happen. Biden, maybe I guess but I feel like his full frontal style will play right into DJT's hands. He is going to use the exact same playbook as last time and unless democrats get it together, he is going to win again. You may think that anyone else is better but I think that is bubble thinking. He won last time without convincing a single person in the DC area that he should be president. Could have lost every vote and it wouldn't have mattered. He is not running a campaign to please you and you may not realize it but he has actually turned into a pretty good campaign manager.

Completely agree. He's not an a$$-kisser, nor should he be.

As for Biden, I always feel like he's acting. Acting the part of the benevolent elder statesman. Acting the part of "everyman". He says what he thinks people want to hear, and it just rings false. Tiresome and a turnoff.

As supposed to the reality TV presidency of third rate actors.

Trump's not an actor, nor was he ever one. What are you babbling about?

Let's please ignore the babbling troll, and start reporting his posts. I just reported one -- first time I've ever had to do so.

Really? This is what finally prompted you to report a post? Apparently none of the racist or anti-Semitic posts ever bothered you enough.

+1

LOL. Racism is ok. But not calling Trump - who had a stupid TV show - an actor. How dare they cross that line?

You are ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:Why will he win?

So many of us are just sick of the MSM reporting. It is pretty sad that when it comes to reporting about Trump, a large number of Americans insist on seeing evidence of the claims made by the MSM because reporting on this president has become so, so ridiculously bad. The past two years, we have been fed lie after lie about Trump and his "nefarious" ties to Russia. When the Russian hoax is promoted daily on the MSM, any contact with anyone remotely Russian looks incriminating, when in actuality, there was nothing to many of these contacts.

Much of the public is tuning out these "reporters." The anchors, the pundits, the "journalists," the former administration talking heads - all of them promoted a false narrative and continue to push fake news. Rachel Maddow, Don Lemon, Chris Matthews.......so sick of the lies. One only has to see their sinking ratings numbers to know that Americans are tuning them out.

So, Trump will win again because Americans realize we are being lied to daily and are sending a huge middle finger to the MSM and the Democrats - one in the same.

Agree completely.

+2

You have it so backwards. It's Trump and his allies who lie constantly and Fox News spreads the lies far and wide.

If you had an ounce of sense between you, you'd figure it out, but you don't. You drank the Kool Aid and this entire country suffers for your foolishness and ignorance.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:(And please please please, my only request to you: don't engage in violence against that "darkness" that according to you needs to be "cleansed." That's how real trouble starts)

Violence is the trademark of WHITE SUPREMACISTS, a GOP special. We are just gonna just push through liberal policies one after another because YOU CAN'T DENY AMERICANS WHAT THEY WANT.

Both sides have white supremacists - historically and currently.

What liberal policies are being pushed through?

We don't live in the past. In the current, no white supremacists are democrats. You can't try to play the same conman game of "both sides".

All trump has done is pass tax cuts for the rich. Everything is going where the progressives are going. Tax cuts are easy to reverse but not Obamacare or fuel standards or gay marriage.

1: Gay marriage is law.
2: Financial regulation are the law. Next step - taxes on the rich is going higher.
3. Obamacare is the law and is very popular. Next stop universal healthcare.
4. Climate change is now being fought by CA,NY and Obama fuel standards stays BECAUSE CA and NY dictates that. No auto company will make one for CA and another for red states.


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LOL, you think democrats arent racist? what? wrong.

You need to check a few recent newspapers on the things on your list. the ACA is in trouble and is in fact in litigation to be cancelled. Your climate change point is completely nonsensical.

You are also crazy if you think taxes on the rich are going higher considering taxes were just lowered on the rich and corporations!

+1.

Dem PP is truly deluded.

Having said that, if his Party of Delusion takes over, you can bet on higher taxes -- on everyone.

The only way to pay for their promises is to, like in Europe, to introduce something like a 25% sales/ VAT tax, to double payroll taxes, and to significantly increase income taxes on the middle class.

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The insane liberal PP needs to be called out for the troll s/he is. It's so obvious. Look at the bizarre syntax. We're wasting our time trying to have a rational conversation with someone who is clearly irrational. Notice how any actual "real" liberals have deserted this thread, leaving the weirdo to fend for him/herself? Even they know it's a troll.

Uh, no. I got tired of the MAGA circle jerk. The delusions, racism, and misogyny get old after several pages.

Right. You're the same old troll who continues to insult Trump voters. Talk about delusions, racism, and misogyny. You have dragged this thread so far off-topic. Hopefully Jeff will see this and kick you out.

I haven’t posted very much on this thread. You are confusing posters. In fact, I was explaining why I was avoiding this thread. It wasn’t that liberal’s posts. It was the nonstop MAGA circle jerk, full of RWNJs.

Again, you would be happier over on this thread: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/807167.page Why are you even here if you can't stand the thread topic?

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Anonymous wrote:(And please please please, my only request to you: don't engage in violence against that "darkness" that according to you needs to be "cleansed." That's how real trouble starts)

Violence is the trademark of WHITE SUPREMACISTS, a GOP special. We are just gonna just push through liberal policies one after another because YOU CAN'T DENY AMERICANS WHAT THEY WANT.

Both sides have white supremacists - historically and currently.

What liberal policies are being pushed through?

We don't live in the past. In the current, no white supremacists are democrats. You can't try to play the same conman game of "both sides".

All trump has done is pass tax cuts for the rich. Everything is going where the progressives are going. Tax cuts are easy to reverse but not Obamacare or fuel standards or gay marriage.

1: Gay marriage is law.
2: Financial regulation are the law. Next step - taxes on the rich is going higher.
3. Obamacare is the law and is very popular. Next stop universal healthcare.
4. Climate change is now being fought by CA,NY and Obama fuel standards stays BECAUSE CA and NY dictates that. No auto company will make one for CA and another for red states.


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LOL, you think democrats arent racist? what? wrong.

You need to check a few recent newspapers on the things on your list. the ACA is in trouble and is in fact in litigation to be cancelled. Your climate change point is completely nonsensical.

You are also crazy if you think taxes on the rich are going higher considering taxes were just lowered on the rich and corporations!

+1.

Dem PP is truly deluded.

Having said that, if his Party of Delusion takes over, you can bet on higher taxes -- on everyone.

The only way to pay for their promises is to, like in Europe, to introduce something like a 25% sales/ VAT tax, to double payroll taxes, and to significantly increase income taxes on the middle class.

+2
The insane liberal PP needs to be called out for the troll s/he is. It's so obvious. Look at the bizarre syntax. We're wasting our time trying to have a rational conversation with someone who is clearly irrational. Notice how any actual "real" liberals have deserted this thread, leaving the weirdo to fend for him/herself? Even they know it's a troll.

Uh, no. I got tired of the MAGA circle jerk. The delusions, racism, and misogyny get old after several pages.

Right. You're the same old troll who continues to insult Trump voters. Talk about delusions, racism, and misogyny. You have dragged this thread so far off-topic. Hopefully Jeff will see this and kick you out.

I haven’t posted very much on this thread. You are confusing posters. In fact, I was explaining why I was avoiding this thread. It wasn’t that liberal’s posts. It was the nonstop MAGA circle jerk, full of RWNJs.

Then why are you here? Find healthier use of your time by continuing to avoid this thread. If you didn't like the fact that there was actual optimism about Trump winning in 2020 in a thread that is titled "...optimism... Trump will win in 2020", I propose that you are the one that's being irrational. What are you going to do next, complain that they sell Chicken in KFC?

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Anonymous wrote:(And please please please, my only request to you: don't engage in violence against that "darkness" that according to you needs to be "cleansed." That's how real trouble starts)

Violence is the trademark of WHITE SUPREMACISTS, a GOP special. We are just gonna just push through liberal policies one after another because YOU CAN'T DENY AMERICANS WHAT THEY WANT.

Both sides have white supremacists - historically and currently.

What liberal policies are being pushed through?

We don't live in the past. In the current, no white supremacists are democrats. You can't try to play the same conman game of "both sides".

All trump has done is pass tax cuts for the rich. Everything is going where the progressives are going. Tax cuts are easy to reverse but not Obamacare or fuel standards or gay marriage.

1: Gay marriage is law.
2: Financial regulation are the law. Next step - taxes on the rich is going higher.
3. Obamacare is the law and is very popular. Next stop universal healthcare.
4. Climate change is now being fought by CA,NY and Obama fuel standards stays BECAUSE CA and NY dictates that. No auto company will make one for CA and another for red states.


5.

LOL, you think democrats arent racist? what? wrong.

You need to check a few recent newspapers on the things on your list. the ACA is in trouble and is in fact in litigation to be cancelled. Your climate change point is completely nonsensical.

You are also crazy if you think taxes on the rich are going higher considering taxes were just lowered on the rich and corporations!

+1.

Dem PP is truly deluded.

Having said that, if his Party of Delusion takes over, you can bet on higher taxes -- on everyone.

The only way to pay for their promises is to, like in Europe, to introduce something like a 25% sales/ VAT tax, to double payroll taxes, and to significantly increase income taxes on the middle class.

+2
The insane liberal PP needs to be called out for the troll s/he is. It's so obvious. Look at the bizarre syntax. We're wasting our time trying to have a rational conversation with someone who is clearly irrational. Notice how any actual "real" liberals have deserted this thread, leaving the weirdo to fend for him/herself? Even they know it's a troll.

Uh, no. I got tired of the MAGA circle jerk. The delusions, racism, and misogyny get old after several pages.

Right. You're the same old troll who continues to insult Trump voters. Talk about delusions, racism, and misogyny. You have dragged this thread so far off-topic. Hopefully Jeff will see this and kick you out.

I haven’t posted very much on this thread. You are confusing posters. In fact, I was explaining why I was avoiding this thread. It wasn’t that liberal’s posts. It was the nonstop MAGA circle jerk, full of RWNJs.

Then why are you here? Find healthier use of your time by continuing to avoid this thread. If you didn't like the fact that there was actual optimism about Trump winning in 2020 in a thread that is titled "...optimism... Trump will win in 2020", I propose that you are the one that's being irrational. What are you going to do next, complain that they sell Chicken in KFC?

Why am I here? To respond to the incorrect assumption above.

You sound like maybe you’re having a manic episode or something. Call your doctor?

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Anonymous wrote:(And please please please, my only request to you: don't engage in violence against that "darkness" that according to you needs to be "cleansed." That's how real trouble starts)

Violence is the trademark of WHITE SUPREMACISTS, a GOP special. We are just gonna just push through liberal policies one after another because YOU CAN'T DENY AMERICANS WHAT THEY WANT.

Both sides have white supremacists - historically and currently.

What liberal policies are being pushed through?

We don't live in the past. In the current, no white supremacists are democrats. You can't try to play the same conman game of "both sides".

All trump has done is pass tax cuts for the rich. Everything is going where the progressives are going. Tax cuts are easy to reverse but not Obamacare or fuel standards or gay marriage.

1: Gay marriage is law.
2: Financial regulation are the law. Next step - taxes on the rich is going higher.
3. Obamacare is the law and is very popular. Next stop universal healthcare.
4. Climate change is now being fought by CA,NY and Obama fuel standards stays BECAUSE CA and NY dictates that. No auto company will make one for CA and another for red states.


5.

LOL, you think democrats arent racist? what? wrong.

You need to check a few recent newspapers on the things on your list. the ACA is in trouble and is in fact in litigation to be cancelled. Your climate change point is completely nonsensical.

You are also crazy if you think taxes on the rich are going higher considering taxes were just lowered on the rich and corporations!

+1.

Dem PP is truly deluded.

Having said that, if his Party of Delusion takes over, you can bet on higher taxes -- on everyone.

The only way to pay for their promises is to, like in Europe, to introduce something like a 25% sales/ VAT tax, to double payroll taxes, and to significantly increase income taxes on the middle class.

+2
The insane liberal PP needs to be called out for the troll s/he is. It's so obvious. Look at the bizarre syntax. We're wasting our time trying to have a rational conversation with someone who is clearly irrational. Notice how any actual "real" liberals have deserted this thread, leaving the weirdo to fend for him/herself? Even they know it's a troll.

Uh, no. I got tired of the MAGA circle jerk. The delusions, racism, and misogyny get old after several pages.

Right. You're the same old troll who continues to insult Trump voters. Talk about delusions, racism, and misogyny. You have dragged this thread so far off-topic. Hopefully Jeff will see this and kick you out.

I haven’t posted very much on this thread. You are confusing posters. In fact, I was explaining why I was avoiding this thread. It wasn’t that liberal’s posts. It was the nonstop MAGA circle jerk, full of RWNJs.

Then why are you here? Find healthier use of your time by continuing to avoid this thread. If you didn't like the fact that there was actual optimism about Trump winning in 2020 in a thread that is titled "...optimism... Trump will win in 2020", I propose that you are the one that's being irrational. What are you going to do next, complain that they sell Chicken in KFC?

Exactly. The troll is one of those people who can't stand not to be heard. He's going to continue trying to derail this thread with his unhinged and off-topic rants unless Jeff bans him. Just keep reporting his posts.

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Anonymous wrote:We are better today than in 2016, and hopefully a majority of Americans realize that.

What do you think? Is it a done deal that Trump will win again and be able to deliver 8 years of peace and prosperity?

Unless Democrats get to work and put forth a comprehensive immigration plan, another win for Trump is in fact a done deal.

No one seriously believes we can accommodate and support all the poors of Central and South America. That’s completely lunacy. You Libs here know that, but are afraid to speak the obvious truth.

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Anonymous wrote:We are better today than in 2016, and hopefully a majority of Americans realize that.

What do you think? Is it a done deal that Trump will win again and be able to deliver 8 years of peace and prosperity?

Unless Democrats get to work and put forth a comprehensive immigration plan, another win for Trump is in fact a done deal.

No one seriously believes we can accommodate and support all the poors of Central and South America. That’s completely lunacy. You Libs here know that, but are afraid to speak the obvious truth.

Thank you. Finally, back on topic.

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Anonymous wrote:No POC will vote for t-Rump in 2020. Same goes for women.

I'm a person of color and I will be voting for Trump in 2020. My wife, who I can assure you is an actual woman as she gave birth to our children, is also voting for Trump in 2020.

Well you are one of the small minority. Vote for the conman, white supremacist all you want but he won't respect you.

DP. You can keep repeating your utter nonsense, but no one is buying it. Well, those of us with any common sense, that is. You just sound like a petulant child who isn’t getting your way. Not a good look.

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I didn't vote for Trump in 2016, but the Petulant Children's Party is making that choice easier by the day.

Many I know voted for the conman but the petulant display by the liar in the white house is making the choice easier. Trump's approval has fallen in EVERY SINGLE STATE since 2017. And his overall avg approval never crossed 43%.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo

https://morningconsult.com/tracking-trump/

You're using a source that had HRC winning in 2016 election. You never learn, do you?

Ha ha, you cultists don’t believe in any poll because all of them shows the loser losing to pretty much anyone in 2020. I bet you would believe in the polls if even one of them shows him winning. I don’t believe in any single poll. I do believe in avg of polls and they were right in 2016 and will be right in 2020. You don’t get stats and polls and odds. Too late to learn. So believe what you what, he is going down as the worst ever in American history.

This may be the case but it doesn't mean he isn't going to win again. If you think he is going to lose to 'pretty much anyone' in 2020 you are kidding yourself. Beto, Kamala, Booker, Warren, Buttieg.....none of these people will ever be president of the united states. It's just not going to happen. Biden, maybe I guess but I feel like his full frontal style will play right into DJT's hands. He is going to use the exact same playbook as last time and unless democrats get it together, he is going to win again. You may think that anyone else is better but I think that is bubble thinking. He won last time without convincing a single person in the DC area that he should be president. Could have lost every vote and it wouldn't have mattered. He is not running a campaign to please you and you may not realize it but he has actually turned into a pretty good campaign manager.

The exact same play book as last time won’t work because Hillary isn’t the candidate and there is no last minute email case being reopened. People are tired of a troll for a president whose FT Job is tweeting. The lazy ass conman has no more “newness” and benefit of the doubt. It is reflected in his approval never climbing above 43% avg. Anyone who could read and care about the country and read the Mueller report are convinced that he is Russian puppet. His taxes are coming out one way or another and that will expose him as the lifelong fraud that he is. Stop deluding and believe in America because we still have a majority that of people who are decent, patriotic, diverse and believe in our democracy and ideals. The cult may be with the traitor but you guys are barely 40% and that’s not enough to even be selected by the EC.

??? Why are you assuming that Trump needs to run the same playbook? If anything the past two years has shown Trump to be incredibly resilient dealing with a variety of people who thought they could go up against Trump and win. Comey thought he could do it, and got fired from the FBI. Peter Strzok and Lisa Page thought they could do it, fired and fired. Andrew McCabe? Fired. Michael Avenatti? In jail. Michael Cohen? In jail. Elizabeth Warren? Made a laughing stock of the country. Pelosi? The Democratic caucus is fracturing under her leadership as she fights to keep control over the progressive wing of the party. Beto? Off somewhere skateboarding and being non-relevant. Bernie? He is too busy looking over his shoulder to make sure the DNC doesn't cheat him out of yet another nomination. That leaves Joe Biden, who has only avoided embarrassment because he has been out of the public eye for the past 2+ years. Consequently, he has the best chance against Trump. But judging by how the others have faired going up against Trump, I'd put the odds on Trump to come up with something effective against Biden in the next 18 months.

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Anonymous wrote:(And please please please, my only request to you: don't engage in violence against that "darkness" that according to you needs to be "cleansed." That's how real trouble starts)

Violence is the trademark of WHITE SUPREMACISTS, a GOP special. We are just gonna just push through liberal policies one after another because YOU CAN'T DENY AMERICANS WHAT THEY WANT.

Both sides have white supremacists - historically and currently.

What liberal policies are being pushed through?

We don't live in the past. In the current, no white supremacists are democrats. You can't try to play the same conman game of "both sides".

All trump has done is pass tax cuts for the rich. Everything is going where the progressives are going. Tax cuts are easy to reverse but not Obamacare or fuel standards or gay marriage.

1: Gay marriage is law.
2: Financial regulation are the law. Next step - taxes on the rich is going higher.
3. Obamacare is the law and is very popular. Next stop universal healthcare.
4. Climate change is now being fought by CA,NY and Obama fuel standards stays BECAUSE CA and NY dictates that. No auto company will make one for CA and another for red states.


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LOL, you think democrats arent racist? what? wrong.

You need to check a few recent newspapers on the things on your list. the ACA is in trouble and is in fact in litigation to be cancelled. Your climate change point is completely nonsensical.

You are also crazy if you think taxes on the rich are going higher considering taxes were just lowered on the rich and corporations!

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Dem PP is truly deluded.

Having said that, if his Party of Delusion takes over, you can bet on higher taxes -- on everyone.

The only way to pay for their promises is to, like in Europe, to introduce something like a 25% sales/ VAT tax, to double payroll taxes, and to significantly increase income taxes on the middle class.

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The insane liberal PP needs to be called out for the troll s/he is. It's so obvious. Look at the bizarre syntax. We're wasting our time trying to have a rational conversation with someone who is clearly irrational. Notice how any actual "real" liberals have deserted this thread, leaving the weirdo to fend for him/herself? Even they know it's a troll.

Uh, no. I got tired of the MAGA circle jerk. The delusions, racism, and misogyny get old after several pages.

Right. You're the same old troll who continues to insult Trump voters. Talk about delusions, racism, and misogyny. You have dragged this thread so far off-topic. Hopefully Jeff will see this and kick you out.

I haven’t posted very much on this thread. You are confusing posters. In fact, I was explaining why I was avoiding this thread. It wasn’t that liberal’s posts. It was the nonstop MAGA circle jerk, full of RWNJs.

Then why are you here? Find healthier use of your time by continuing to avoid this thread. If you didn't like the fact that there was actual optimism about Trump winning in 2020 in a thread that is titled "...optimism... Trump will win in 2020", I propose that you are the one that's being irrational. What are you going to do next, complain that they sell Chicken in KFC?

Exactly. The troll is one of those people who can't stand not to be heard. He's going to continue trying to derail this thread with his unhinged and off-topic rants unless Jeff bans him. Just keep reporting his posts.

You are confusing posters. I haven’t posted that much until 9am today.