It's now easier to perform an abortion in the state of New York than to legally apply a tattoo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love young people expressing themselves and how they respect life.

They love it until they find themselves unexpectedly pregnant. Then the lightbulb goes off about how important legal abortion is. I witnessed this personally 7 times growing up as friends who were against abortion in theory were all for it when it was THEM.

So what does this say about their character? or really, human nature?

Most people are in self-preservation mode. Most are selfish. Most judge w/o having any true experience with a topic. The whole immigration thread is one such example. It's easy to judge when it doesn't directly impact you.

So you can be anti-abortion if you're not affected by an unplanned/unwanted pregnancy.

But even if this is human nature, there are still many who don't fit the mold for many reasons.

For one 15 yo who's negligent (and who knows why? impulsive? poor parenting? rebellious?), abortion may be the only answer. For another, keeping the child may be an option b/c she's seen others around her keep their babies. And although premarital sex is against her religion, she's keeping the baby b/c abortion goes against her religious beliefs too. Maybe she decided to initially keep the baby but at birth has a change of heart and opts to give the baby up.

I've taught MANY teens who decided to keep their babies, and for some, this decision negatively impacted their lives. For others, with loving support of extended family, the decision was fine. Most of the time, however, the father was absent.

I personally don't know how I feel about late-term abortions, however. I sometimes think this decision is a slippery slope, but I'm not my sister's keeper either.

Hello it’s the 18 year old again. I just want to say that since I’ve been a teen for a while now, I can understand what goes on in teen’s heads. There are teens who are negligent and impulsive and do things that they immediately regret. But something I’ve learned is that we always have a choice. I’ve known that everything I’ve done wrong was my own choice. It’d be easy for me to make up excuses but I know I have to take responsibility for my actions. After a certain age (probably like 7 or 8), I had a clear sense of what was right or wrong , and whether I was doing something that my parents wouldn’t approve of. I think sometimes, and it’s just my personal opinion, that people think teens don’t know if they’re doing something wrong. But anyways, I can’t speak for everyone, and people have different life situations and are educated differently, so it’s just my thoughts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I realize that I’m just an idiot teenager with no life experience, who slept through science class, but here’s my opinion:
Abortion makes me sad.

Awesome!

It makes me sad too. It’s a very sad thing. Almost no one is “pro” abortion. In fact, most people who push for abortion rights also push for birth control, sex ed, and health care to PREVENT abortions.

In a perfect world, birth control will always work, horny teens with limited frontal-lobe development wouldn’t have unprotected sex, no one would get pregnant until they were ready (financially stable & in a loving, nonabusive relationship), babies would be all healthy, etc. But we don’t live in a perfect world. You’ll learn that as you become older. People have sex. Abortions will happen. Regardless of the laws.

If you want to prevent abortions, go push for education (not just abstinence), healthcare, and free contraception. Those are effective ways to reduce unwanted pregnancies and abortions.

Gah. Stop saying this. Or at least, use the disclaimer that YOU ARE ONLY SPEAKING FOR YOURSELF. I am pro abortion. I highly support abortions for anyone who does not want to be pregnant. And I feel negative shame about it. What should make you sad is white men making decisions about women’s bodies. About women who are raped, people who sit in prison for abortion or even miscarriages.

Pro-abortion: in favor of the medical procedure in which a pregnancy is terminated. Hey, it’s me.

When you say “abortion is sad” and “no one is pro abortion” you’re ceding extensive ground to the other side. You’re (likely without realizing it) furthering the narrative the abortion is fundamentally bad or evil and that women should be ashamed if they have them. You’re buying into the anti-choice rhetoric. Stop it!

Gah? I am not going to stop feeling sad about something that makes me sad. Your demand about how other people should feel is despicable. Yes, there are some morals in the society. Demanding that the society adjust their moral norms and standards to your liking is laughable. You can abort as much as you want any of your pregnancies. Please, don't breed. Society will not miss any of your children if they are like you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Like what kind exactly?

start with the same as used in the trial:

"LARC methods are defined as intrauterine devices (IUDs) and implants."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love young people expressing themselves and how they respect life.

They love it until they find themselves unexpectedly pregnant. Then the lightbulb goes off about how important legal abortion is. I witnessed this personally 7 times growing up as friends who were against abortion in theory were all for it when it was THEM.

It is say that you surround yourself with such a circle of friends. There are no "unexpected" pregnancies. Your friends just idiots. Once you began having sex, no matter what type of birth control you use, there are always a chance that you can get pregnant. It is like jumping with a parachute. There is always a chance it wont' open. So, to say it is "unexpected" is just stupid and ignorant.

I too got pregnant "unexpectedly" when I was in college. An dI was pro-abortion back then. And for some reason, having a life inside me, changed my mind. I kept the baby, even though the father didn't want anything to do with my pregnancy. I graduated from college, went to grad school (with a toddler), and got my post-graduate degree as well. I married now, and have two more children.

Yes, but kids are still maturing -- they may struggle with good judgement in difficult situations. In the heat of the moment (add in teen hormones), they may not make good choices about sex or birth control.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3621648/

"Recently, investigators have studied various aspects of the maturation process of the prefrontal cortex of adolescents.17,18 The prefrontal cortex offers an individual the capacity to exercise good judgment when presented with difficult life situations. The prefrontal cortex, the part of the frontal lobes lying just behind the forehead, is responsible for cognitive analysis, abstract thought, and the moderation of correct behavior in social situations. The prefrontal cortex acquires information from all of the senses and orchestrates thoughts and actions in order to achieve specific goals.

The prefrontal cortex is one of the last regions of the brain to reach maturation, which explains why some adolescents exhibit behavioral immaturity. There are several executive functions of the human prefrontal cortex that remain under construction during adolescence, as illustrated in Figures 3 and ?and4.4. The fact that brain development is not complete until near the age of 25 years refers specifically to the development of the prefrontal cortex.19"

Free, long-acting birth control will help with this significantly.
https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/sites/default/files/PSD_TitleX3_CFPI-Report.pdf

"In 2008, the Colorado Department of Public Health
and Environment (CDPHE) secured funding from
a private donor to launch the Colorado Family
Planning Initiative (CFPI), an expansion of the
Family Planning Program that would provide
training, operational support and low- or no-cost
long-acting reversible contraceptives (LARCs) to
low-income women statewide. LARC methods are
defined as intrauterine devices (IUDs) and implants.
By the middle of 2015, the initiative provided
LARCs to more than 36,000 women. Between 2009
and 2014, birth and abortion rates both declined
by nearly 50 percent among teens aged 15-19 and
by 20 percent among young women aged 20-24.
Public assistance costs associated with births that
were averted among women aged 15-24 totaled
between $54.6 and $60.6 million for four entitlement programs."

Every single person on here should be pushing for free & effective birth control.

So, why every liberal wont do the same? Sponsor free birth control for everyone.

Which liberals are against free birth control? Obamacare made it more accessible and reduced costs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Every single person on here should be pushing for free & effective birth control.

Should be -- if their professed concern for the unborn wasn't a pretext for being opposed to unsanctioned sex. They talk about Roe v. Wade, but they're really against Griswold v. Connecticut where the Supreme Court ruled that a state's ban on the use of contraceptives violated the right to privacy. If you've ever heard a "pro-life" person mocking Constitutional penumbras, that penumbra language about a Constitutional right to privacy that protects access to birth control (and abortion) came from Griswold.

Greater access to contraception reduces abortion, but pro-life advocates resist pro-contraception policies because they're truly opposed to unsanctioned sex. Pregnancy is righteous punishment for f*cking.

You missed a big point in the post above: it was a PRIVATE donor, not a taxpayers money. NO ONE prevents you to fund free contraception for all in your state. NO ONE. GO FOR IT.

Let's see....it cost $27M and saved $55-60M. Sounds like a worth investment to me. Saves taxpayers money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

So, why every liberal wont do the same? Sponsor free birth control for everyone.

Which liberals are against free birth control? Obamacare made it more accessible and reduced costs.



Obamacare was funded by the taxpayers money, including money of people who don't want to contribute to abortion and birth control. Why don't you fund a free birth control for the state of VA from donations from Democrats? If this is really what you believe in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I realize that I’m just an idiot teenager with no life experience, who slept through science class, but here’s my opinion:
Abortion makes me sad.

Awesome!

It makes me sad too. It’s a very sad thing. Almost no one is “pro” abortion. In fact, most people who push for abortion rights also push for birth control, sex ed, and health care to PREVENT abortions.

In a perfect world, birth control will always work, horny teens with limited frontal-lobe development wouldn’t have unprotected sex, no one would get pregnant until they were ready (financially stable & in a loving, nonabusive relationship), babies would be all healthy, etc. But we don’t live in a perfect world. You’ll learn that as you become older. People have sex. Abortions will happen. Regardless of the laws.

If you want to prevent abortions, go push for education (not just abstinence), healthcare, and free contraception. Those are effective ways to reduce unwanted pregnancies and abortions.

Gah. Stop saying this. Or at least, use the disclaimer that YOU ARE ONLY SPEAKING FOR YOURSELF. I am pro abortion. I highly support abortions for anyone who does not want to be pregnant. And I feel negative shame about it. What should make you sad is white men making decisions about women’s bodies. About women who are raped, people who sit in prison for abortion or even miscarriages.

Pro-abortion: in favor of the medical procedure in which a pregnancy is terminated. Hey, it’s me.

When you say “abortion is sad” and “no one is pro abortion” you’re ceding extensive ground to the other side. You’re (likely without realizing it) furthering the narrative the abortion is fundamentally bad or evil and that women should be ashamed if they have them. You’re buying into the anti-choice rhetoric. Stop it!

I think almost all women would prefer to have avoided the unwanted pregnancy if they could have. No?

I am PRO ABORTION ACCESS for times when it is the best option. Not PRO ABORTION.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love young people expressing themselves and how they respect life.

They love it until they find themselves unexpectedly pregnant. Then the lightbulb goes off about how important legal abortion is. I witnessed this personally 7 times growing up as friends who were against abortion in theory were all for it when it was THEM.

So what does this say about their character? or really, human nature?

Most people are in self-preservation mode. Most are selfish. Most judge w/o having any true experience with a topic. The whole immigration thread is one such example. It's easy to judge when it doesn't directly impact you.

So you can be anti-abortion if you're not affected by an unplanned/unwanted pregnancy.

But even if this is human nature, there are still many who don't fit the mold for many reasons.

For one 15 yo who's negligent (and who knows why? impulsive? poor parenting? rebellious?), abortion may be the only answer. For another, keeping the child may be an option b/c she's seen others around her keep their babies. And although premarital sex is against her religion, she's keeping the baby b/c abortion goes against her religious beliefs too. Maybe she decided to initially keep the baby but at birth has a change of heart and opts to give the baby up.

I've taught MANY teens who decided to keep their babies, and for some, this decision negatively impacted their lives. For others, with loving support of extended family, the decision was fine. Most of the time, however, the father was absent.

I personally don't know how I feel about late-term abortions, however. I sometimes think this decision is a slippery slope, but I'm not my sister's keeper either.

Hello it’s the 18 year old again. I just want to say that since I’ve been a teen for a while now, I can understand what goes on in teen’s heads. There are teens who are negligent and impulsive and do things that they immediately regret. But something I’ve learned is that we always have a choice. I’ve known that everything I’ve done wrong was my own choice. It’d be easy for me to make up excuses but I know I have to take responsibility for my actions. After a certain age (probably like 7 or 8), I had a clear sense of what was right or wrong , and whether I was doing something that my parents wouldn’t approve of. I think sometimes, and it’s just my personal opinion, that people think teens don’t know if they’re doing something wrong. But anyways, I can’t speak for everyone, and people have different life situations and are educated differently, so it’s just my thoughts.

Are you pushing your peers to use birth control? If you feel this passionately about abortion?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
So, why every liberal wont do the same? Sponsor free birth control for everyone.

Which liberals are against free birth control? Obamacare made it more accessible and reduced costs.

Obamacare was funded by the taxpayers money, including money of people who don't want to contribute to abortion and birth control. Why don't you fund a free birth control for the state of VA from donations from Democrats? If this is really what you believe in.

BIRTH CONTROL benefits all taxpayers so all taxpayers can pay. What's wrong with birth control?

Abortion can't be funded by the government so don't worry about that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love young people expressing themselves and how they respect life.

They love it until they find themselves unexpectedly pregnant. Then the lightbulb goes off about how important legal abortion is. I witnessed this personally 7 times growing up as friends who were against abortion in theory were all for it when it was THEM.

So what does this say about their character? or really, human nature?

Most people are in self-preservation mode. Most are selfish. Most judge w/o having any true experience with a topic. The whole immigration thread is one such example. It's easy to judge when it doesn't directly impact you.

So you can be anti-abortion if you're not affected by an unplanned/unwanted pregnancy.

But even if this is human nature, there are still many who don't fit the mold for many reasons.

For one 15 yo who's negligent (and who knows why? impulsive? poor parenting? rebellious?), abortion may be the only answer. For another, keeping the child may be an option b/c she's seen others around her keep their babies. And although premarital sex is against her religion, she's keeping the baby b/c abortion goes against her religious beliefs too. Maybe she decided to initially keep the baby but at birth has a change of heart and opts to give the baby up.

I've taught MANY teens who decided to keep their babies, and for some, this decision negatively impacted their lives. For others, with loving support of extended family, the decision was fine. Most of the time, however, the father was absent.

I personally don't know how I feel about late-term abortions, however. I sometimes think this decision is a slippery slope, but I'm not my sister's keeper either.

Hello it’s the 18 year old again. I just want to say that since I’ve been a teen for a while now, I can understand what goes on in teen’s heads. There are teens who are negligent and impulsive and do things that they immediately regret. But something I’ve learned is that we always have a choice. I’ve known that everything I’ve done wrong was my own choice. It’d be easy for me to make up excuses but I know I have to take responsibility for my actions. After a certain age (probably like 7 or 8), I had a clear sense of what was right or wrong , and whether I was doing something that my parents wouldn’t approve of. I think sometimes, and it’s just my personal opinion, that people think teens don’t know if they’re doing something wrong. But anyways, I can’t speak for everyone, and people have different life situations and are educated differently, so it’s just my thoughts.

Why do you believe you were so self-aware at 7 or 8? I'm not saying it's impossible, but it is rare based on what I've seen in the classroom over the 20+ years in education.

What were your parents like? Did they NOT helicopter you? Were you able to experience failing w/o having them swoop down to save you? Did they talk to you instead of AT you?

very curious about factors that shaped your perspective

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love young people expressing themselves and how they respect life.

They love it until they find themselves unexpectedly pregnant. Then the lightbulb goes off about how important legal abortion is. I witnessed this personally 7 times growing up as friends who were against abortion in theory were all for it when it was THEM.

It is say that you surround yourself with such a circle of friends. There are no "unexpected" pregnancies. Your friends just idiots. Once you began having sex, no matter what type of birth control you use, there are always a chance that you can get pregnant. It is like jumping with a parachute. There is always a chance it wont' open. So, to say it is "unexpected" is just stupid and ignorant.

I too got pregnant "unexpectedly" when I was in college. An dI was pro-abortion back then. And for some reason, having a life inside me, changed my mind. I kept the baby, even though the father didn't want anything to do with my pregnancy. I graduated from college, went to grad school (with a toddler), and got my post-graduate degree as well. I married now, and have two more children.

So, in other words, when faced with the CHOICE, you made the CHOICE to have the child? That seems like a good CHOICE for you at the time. The point is that you weren't forced, were you? You CHOSE.

I don't know ANYONE who is forced to get pregnant unless it is a rape. It is ALWAYS a choice.

Uh, the reference was to the choice to keep the child. No one forced her. At the end of the day, it was a choice. Not a mandate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love young people expressing themselves and how they respect life.

They love it until they find themselves unexpectedly pregnant. Then the lightbulb goes off about how important legal abortion is. I witnessed this personally 7 times growing up as friends who were against abortion in theory were all for it when it was THEM.

So what does this say about their character? or really, human nature?

Most people are in self-preservation mode. Most are selfish. Most judge w/o having any true experience with a topic. The whole immigration thread is one such example. It's easy to judge when it doesn't directly impact you.

So you can be anti-abortion if you're not affected by an unplanned/unwanted pregnancy.

But even if this is human nature, there are still many who don't fit the mold for many reasons.

For one 15 yo who's negligent (and who knows why? impulsive? poor parenting? rebellious?), abortion may be the only answer. For another, keeping the child may be an option b/c she's seen others around her keep their babies. And although premarital sex is against her religion, she's keeping the baby b/c abortion goes against her religious beliefs too. Maybe she decided to initially keep the baby but at birth has a change of heart and opts to give the baby up.

I've taught MANY teens who decided to keep their babies, and for some, this decision negatively impacted their lives. For others, with loving support of extended family, the decision was fine. Most of the time, however, the father was absent.

I personally don't know how I feel about late-term abortions, however. I sometimes think this decision is a slippery slope, but I'm not my sister's keeper either.

Hello it’s the 18 year old again. I just want to say that since I’ve been a teen for a while now, I can understand what goes on in teen’s heads. There are teens who are negligent and impulsive and do things that they immediately regret. But something I’ve learned is that we always have a choice. I’ve known that everything I’ve done wrong was my own choice. It’d be easy for me to make up excuses but I know I have to take responsibility for my actions. After a certain age (probably like 7 or 8), I had a clear sense of what was right or wrong , and whether I was doing something that my parents wouldn’t approve of. I think sometimes, and it’s just my personal opinion, that people think teens don’t know if they’re doing something wrong. But anyways, I can’t speak for everyone, and people have different life situations and are educated differently, so it’s just my thoughts.

Why do you believe you were so self-aware at 7 or 8? I'm not saying it's impossible, but it is rare based on what I've seen in the classroom over the 20+ years in education.

What were your parents like? Did they NOT helicopter you? Were you able to experience failing w/o having them swoop down to save you? Did they talk to you instead of AT you?

very curious about factors that shaped your perspective

Why are we taking an 18 year old so seriously? She likely is not even sexually active yet and has NO IDEA about how iffy birth control can be or what having a passionate relationship is like.

She has black and white thinking that is so easy to have when you haven't walked a mile on someone's shoes.

[Anonymous]

^^ Hell she hasn't even put them on yet no less walked in them.

[Anonymous]

She’s an arrogant bore, like many sanctimonious teens. Don’t feed her.

[Anonymous]

She thinks her opinions matter. And they do, to her. They will matter to more people once she has more experience under her belt, and once she becomes more educated about the topic.

Until then, though, she will continue to share her views, for what they are worth.