Which Dem can win general election in 2020?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trying again here since Jeff deleted the hypothetical Hillary vs. Trump 2020 thread for whatever reason.

HRC is not going to run in 2020, but that won't stop Trump from behaving as if she is.

But if she did, I think she would win. She's not stupid - the tactical errors that contributed to her loss in 2016 would be addressed. And I think enough voters have buyer's remorse about helping elect Trump that she doesn't have to worry as much about butthurt Bernie and idiot 3rd-party voters undermining her support.

In fact, I think just about anybody would beat Trump in 2020. Even putting aside his manifest unsuitability for the job, he really has next to nothing in terms of actual accomplishments he can run on.

I admire your faith in Clinton, but she would lose by a larger margin in 2020. Although I encourage the Dems to run her

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sherrod Brown or Steve Bullock of Montana. Stacey Abrams as VP.

No Sherrod, don’t know who Steve Bullock is.

Current governor of Montana since 2013.

+1 google is a wonderful invention you could try.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trying again here since Jeff deleted the hypothetical Hillary vs. Trump 2020 thread for whatever reason.

HRC is not going to run in 2020, but that won't stop Trump from behaving as if she is.

But if she did, I think she would win. She's not stupid - the tactical errors that contributed to her loss in 2016 would be addressed. And I think enough voters have buyer's remorse about helping elect Trump that she doesn't have to worry as much about butthurt Bernie and idiot 3rd-party voters undermining her support.

In fact, I think just about anybody would beat Trump in 2020. Even putting aside his manifest unsuitability for the job, he really has next to nothing in terms of actual accomplishments he can run on.

You're trying to apply logic to elections, but that doesn't work, especially not in this environment. If Trump runs in 2020 (which I doubt) there is a good chance he would win, especially against Hillary. People tend to have a visceral negative reaction to Hillary; it may be unjustified but that's how it is. And almost half of the country is hopelessly in thrall to a conman with no character, no morals, no accomplishments, and no ambitions other than his own self enrichment. We really do need a perfect candidate to win in 2020.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trying again here since Jeff deleted the hypothetical Hillary vs. Trump 2020 thread for whatever reason.

HRC is not going to run in 2020, but that won't stop Trump from behaving as if she is.

But if she did, I think she would win. She's not stupid - the tactical errors that contributed to her loss in 2016 would be addressed. And I think enough voters have buyer's remorse about helping elect Trump that she doesn't have to worry as much about butthurt Bernie and idiot 3rd-party voters undermining her support.

In fact, I think just about anybody would beat Trump in 2020. Even putting aside his manifest unsuitability for the job, he really has next to nothing in terms of actual accomplishments he can run on.

I admire your faith in Clinton, but she would lose by a larger margin in 2020. Although I encourage the Dems to run her

It's not a matter of faith. Clinton's 2016 defeat was "a death from a thousand cuts" from multiple issues (some of them self-inflicted), none of which by themselves would have been enough to cause her defeat, but added together... I firmly believe that if even one of those issues - it doesn't matter which one - were removed, we'd be talking about President Clinton today.

Correct one or more of the tactical errors she made in 2016, and I believe she would beat Trump handily in 2020.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trying again here since Jeff deleted the hypothetical Hillary vs. Trump 2020 thread for whatever reason.

HRC is not going to run in 2020, but that won't stop Trump from behaving as if she is.

But if she did, I think she would win. She's not stupid - the tactical errors that contributed to her loss in 2016 would be addressed. And I think enough voters have buyer's remorse about helping elect Trump that she doesn't have to worry as much about butthurt Bernie and idiot 3rd-party voters undermining her support.

In fact, I think just about anybody would beat Trump in 2020. Even putting aside his manifest unsuitability for the job, he really has next to nothing in terms of actual accomplishments he can run on.

I admire your faith in Clinton, but she would lose by a larger margin in 2020. Although I encourage the Dems to run her

It's not a matter of faith. Clinton's 2016 defeat was "a death from a thousand cuts" from multiple issues (some of them self-inflicted), none of which by themselves would have been enough to cause her defeat, but added together... I firmly believe that if even one of those issues - it doesn't matter which one - were removed, we'd be talking about President Clinton today.

Correct one or more of the tactical errors she made in 2016, and I believe she would beat Trump handily in 2020.

She made tactical errors in 2008 too. She's just not that good of a campaigner. But her biggest error is her lack of political instincts. She never understood the nature of the threats against her. She has not understood it for 30 years, so she has always been vulnerable. Even if she had won in 2016, she would have had trouble governing. Endless investigations, Trump tweeting about her every move, no legislation getting through Congress. She's a very capable bureaucrat, but bureaucrats aren't political leaders.

[Anonymous]

Klobuchar + Abrams.

Midwest + South, Women of low drama.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trying again here since Jeff deleted the hypothetical Hillary vs. Trump 2020 thread for whatever reason.

HRC is not going to run in 2020, but that won't stop Trump from behaving as if she is.

But if she did, I think she would win. She's not stupid - the tactical errors that contributed to her loss in 2016 would be addressed. And I think enough voters have buyer's remorse about helping elect Trump that she doesn't have to worry as much about butthurt Bernie and idiot 3rd-party voters undermining her support.

In fact, I think just about anybody would beat Trump in 2020. Even putting aside his manifest unsuitability for the job, he really has next to nothing in terms of actual accomplishments he can run on.

I admire your faith in Clinton, but she would lose by a larger margin in 2020. Although I encourage the Dems to run her

It's not a matter of faith. Clinton's 2016 defeat was "a death from a thousand cuts" from multiple issues (some of them self-inflicted), none of which by themselves would have been enough to cause her defeat, but added together... I firmly believe that if even one of those issues - it doesn't matter which one - were removed, we'd be talking about President Clinton today.

Correct one or more of the tactical errors she made in 2016, and I believe she would beat Trump handily in 2020.

She made tactical errors in 2008 too. She's just not that good of a campaigner. But her biggest error is her lack of political instincts. She never understood the nature of the threats against her. She has not understood it for 30 years, so she has always been vulnerable. Even if she had won in 2016, she would have had trouble governing. Endless investigations, Trump tweeting about her every move, no legislation getting through Congress. She's a very capable bureaucrat, but bureaucrats aren't political leaders.

She came out yesterday telling Europe to get control of immigration. She made mistakes not understanding mid-America's concerns about the border. She's working to fix her tactical mistakes. Clinton 4.0 will get it right this time.

She's boring, but maybe that's what we need now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trying again here since Jeff deleted the hypothetical Hillary vs. Trump 2020 thread for whatever reason.

HRC is not going to run in 2020, but that won't stop Trump from behaving as if she is.

But if she did, I think she would win. She's not stupid - the tactical errors that contributed to her loss in 2016 would be addressed. And I think enough voters have buyer's remorse about helping elect Trump that she doesn't have to worry as much about butthurt Bernie and idiot 3rd-party voters undermining her support.

In fact, I think just about anybody would beat Trump in 2020. Even putting aside his manifest unsuitability for the job, he really has next to nothing in terms of actual accomplishments he can run on.

I admire your faith in Clinton, but she would lose by a larger margin in 2020. Although I encourage the Dems to run her

It's not a matter of faith. Clinton's 2016 defeat was "a death from a thousand cuts" from multiple issues (some of them self-inflicted), none of which by themselves would have been enough to cause her defeat, but added together... I firmly believe that if even one of those issues - it doesn't matter which one - were removed, we'd be talking about President Clinton today.

Correct one or more of the tactical errors she made in 2016, and I believe she would beat Trump handily in 2020.

She made tactical errors in 2008 too. She's just not that good of a campaigner. But her biggest error is her lack of political instincts. She never understood the nature of the threats against her. She has not understood it for 30 years, so she has always been vulnerable. Even if she had won in 2016, she would have had trouble governing. Endless investigations, Trump tweeting about her every move, no legislation getting through Congress. She's a very capable bureaucrat, but bureaucrats aren't political leaders.

She came out yesterday telling Europe to get control of immigration. She made mistakes not understanding mid-America's concerns about the border. She's working to fix her tactical mistakes. Clinton 4.0 will get it right this time.

She's boring, but maybe that's what we need now.

She right about immigration, but boring doesn't win elections. Someone else will have to do it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trying again here since Jeff deleted the hypothetical Hillary vs. Trump 2020 thread for whatever reason.

HRC is not going to run in 2020, but that won't stop Trump from behaving as if she is.

But if she did, I think she would win. She's not stupid - the tactical errors that contributed to her loss in 2016 would be addressed. And I think enough voters have buyer's remorse about helping elect Trump that she doesn't have to worry as much about butthurt Bernie and idiot 3rd-party voters undermining her support.

In fact, I think just about anybody would beat Trump in 2020. Even putting aside his manifest unsuitability for the job, he really has next to nothing in terms of actual accomplishments he can run on.

I admire your faith in Clinton, but she would lose by a larger margin in 2020. Although I encourage the Dems to run her

It's not a matter of faith. Clinton's 2016 defeat was "a death from a thousand cuts" from multiple issues (some of them self-inflicted), none of which by themselves would have been enough to cause her defeat, but added together... I firmly believe that if even one of those issues - it doesn't matter which one - were removed, we'd be talking about President Clinton today.

Correct one or more of the tactical errors she made in 2016, and I believe she would beat Trump handily in 2020.

Well we know Robbie Mook wont be running her campaign. Any wunderkinds out there who could get Bill Clinton involved without Hillary’s knowledge? Ignoring him was one of Hillary’s tactical errors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trying again here since Jeff deleted the hypothetical Hillary vs. Trump 2020 thread for whatever reason.

HRC is not going to run in 2020, but that won't stop Trump from behaving as if she is.

But if she did, I think she would win. She's not stupid - the tactical errors that contributed to her loss in 2016 would be addressed. And I think enough voters have buyer's remorse about helping elect Trump that she doesn't have to worry as much about butthurt Bernie and idiot 3rd-party voters undermining her support.

In fact, I think just about anybody would beat Trump in 2020. Even putting aside his manifest unsuitability for the job, he really has next to nothing in terms of actual accomplishments he can run on.

I admire your faith in Clinton, but she would lose by a larger margin in 2020. Although I encourage the Dems to run her

It's not a matter of faith. Clinton's 2016 defeat was "a death from a thousand cuts" from multiple issues (some of them self-inflicted), none of which by themselves would have been enough to cause her defeat, but added together... I firmly believe that if even one of those issues - it doesn't matter which one - were removed, we'd be talking about President Clinton today.

Correct one or more of the tactical errors she made in 2016, and I believe she would beat Trump handily in 2020.

She made tactical errors in 2008 too. She's just not that good of a campaigner. But her biggest error is her lack of political instincts. She never understood the nature of the threats against her. She has not understood it for 30 years, so she has always been vulnerable. Even if she had won in 2016, she would have had trouble governing. Endless investigations, Trump tweeting about her every move, no legislation getting through Congress. She's a very capable bureaucrat, but bureaucrats aren't political leaders.

She came out yesterday telling Europe to get control of immigration. She made mistakes not understanding mid-America's concerns about the border. She's working to fix her tactical mistakes. Clinton 4.0 will get it right this time.

She's boring, but maybe that's what we need now.

Maybe she could replace Angela Merkel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trying again here since Jeff deleted the hypothetical Hillary vs. Trump 2020 thread for whatever reason.

HRC is not going to run in 2020, but that won't stop Trump from behaving as if she is.

But if she did, I think she would win. She's not stupid - the tactical errors that contributed to her loss in 2016 would be addressed. And I think enough voters have buyer's remorse about helping elect Trump that she doesn't have to worry as much about butthurt Bernie and idiot 3rd-party voters undermining her support.

In fact, I think just about anybody would beat Trump in 2020. Even putting aside his manifest unsuitability for the job, he really has next to nothing in terms of actual accomplishments he can run on.

I admire your faith in Clinton, but she would lose by a larger margin in 2020. Although I encourage the Dems to run her

It's not a matter of faith. Clinton's 2016 defeat was "a death from a thousand cuts" from multiple issues (some of them self-inflicted), none of which by themselves would have been enough to cause her defeat, but added together... I firmly believe that if even one of those issues - it doesn't matter which one - were removed, we'd be talking about President Clinton today.

Correct one or more of the tactical errors she made in 2016, and I believe she would beat Trump handily in 2020.

She made tactical errors in 2008 too. She's just not that good of a campaigner. But her biggest error is her lack of political instincts. She never understood the nature of the threats against her. She has not understood it for 30 years, so she has always been vulnerable. Even if she had won in 2016, she would have had trouble governing. Endless investigations, Trump tweeting about her every move, no legislation getting through Congress. She's a very capable bureaucrat, but bureaucrats aren't political leaders.

She came out yesterday telling Europe to get control of immigration. She made mistakes not understanding mid-America's concerns about the border. She's working to fix her tactical mistakes. Clinton 4.0 will get it right this time.

She's boring, but maybe that's what we need now.

This is brilliant satire. Bravo.

[Anonymous]

Klobuchar and Sherrord Brown or Brown and Klobuchar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Klobuchar and Sherrord Brown or Brown and Klobuchar.

Both are good, but kind of boring (which may be newly appreciated after the Trump fiasco). Sub in Beto at the VP slot to make a more exciting ticket.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Klobuchar and Sherrord Brown or Brown and Klobuchar.

Both are good, but kind of boring (which may be newly appreciated after the Trump fiasco). Sub in Beto at the VP slot to make a more exciting ticket.

Hear hear - I am all in for Klobuchar and Beto 2020

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trying again here since Jeff deleted the hypothetical Hillary vs. Trump 2020 thread for whatever reason.

HRC is not going to run in 2020, but that won't stop Trump from behaving as if she is.

But if she did, I think she would win. She's not stupid - the tactical errors that contributed to her loss in 2016 would be addressed. And I think enough voters have buyer's remorse about helping elect Trump that she doesn't have to worry as much about butthurt Bernie and idiot 3rd-party voters undermining her support.

In fact, I think just about anybody would beat Trump in 2020. Even putting aside his manifest unsuitability for the job, he really has next to nothing in terms of actual accomplishments he can run on.

I admire your faith in Clinton, but she would lose by a larger margin in 2020. Although I encourage the Dems to run her

It's not a matter of faith. Clinton's 2016 defeat was "a death from a thousand cuts" from multiple issues (some of them self-inflicted), none of which by themselves would have been enough to cause her defeat, but added together... I firmly believe that if even one of those issues - it doesn't matter which one - were removed, we'd be talking about President Clinton today.

Correct one or more of the tactical errors she made in 2016, and I believe she would beat Trump handily in 2020.

She made tactical errors in 2008 too. She's just not that good of a campaigner. But her biggest error is her lack of political instincts. She never understood the nature of the threats against her. She has not understood it for 30 years, so she has always been vulnerable. Even if she had won in 2016, she would have had trouble governing. Endless investigations, Trump tweeting about her every move, no legislation getting through Congress. She's a very capable bureaucrat, but bureaucrats aren't political leaders.

She came out yesterday telling Europe to get control of immigration. She made mistakes not understanding mid-America's concerns about the border. She's working to fix her tactical mistakes. Clinton 4.0 will get it right this time.

She's boring, but maybe that's what we need now.

She is an opportunist too stupid to recognize she falls into that category!