Trump DOJ to prosecute universities for anti-white affirmative action policies
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Blacks are not disproportionately stopped and killed by cops. Whenever they look at the data they find that blacks are less likely to be shot than whites in similar circumstances. Blacks are about 25% of the people shot by cops but they commit 40+% of the violent crime. The proportion of blacks shot by police has been going steadily down for the last 30 years. There's a really good piece talking about this subject here: http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/11/25/race-and-justice-much-more-than-you-wanted-to-know/ Schools in predominantly black areas get the same funding that other school systems get. It's the students that make the schools "bad". Don't know what to do about the stereotypes, but if young black males weren't 3-10 times more likely to commit most types of crime I'm pretty sure these stereotypes wouldn't exist. |
Anonymous
As far as I can tell, no one has suggested otherwise. |
Anonymous
What the FUCK are you talking about? Are you really this lacking in empathy? I'm not agreeing with your notion that AA slaves had less of a "desire" for intact family units. But if they did, who could blame them? Why would you bother investing your hopes and dreams in a family if it had no social standing whatsoever? If, in fact, it could be a detriment, not an advantage? In terms of basic survival and self-preservation, how would having a family help a slave? It would be much easier to have fewer emotional attachments in that environment. Then it might be less painful when a fellow slave was sold or raped or beaten or tortured or killed. Why would you want to have children, to suffer as you were suffering? And this kind of existence went on for GENERATIONS. Would it really be surprising if there were long-lasting ramifications of that? Do you think Jewish women in concentration camps were happy they had children to suffer as they were suffering? You think it made it easier on them to know that somewhere their parents were being gassed, their daughters were being raped, their husbands were slave labor? I'm guessing having a strong family unit at that time was more painful than joyful. How many may have thought, "I would rather they be dead than suffer this." It was a period of terrible inhumanity, terrible suffering....but relative to slavery in the US, it was for a very short time. The legacy of slavery and discrimination in this country is still with us in a way that is very unique. It exists on so many different levels it is hard to fully describe and quantify. But here's one tangible way that continues to haunt us. In large part because of discrimination, black people have been more likely to live in substandard housing in dense urban areas. Those areas have been and continue to be polluted with high levels of lead--in the paint, in the soil. Children exposed to high levels of lead or to lower levels over long periods of time have a myriad of health, developmental, and intellectual issues that continue throughout their lives. That exposure affects people's ability to succeed in school, in the workplace, in life. Here are the findings of one recent study: We consider a new source of racial disparities in test scores: African American students’ disproportionate exposure to environmental toxins, and, in particular, lead. Using a unique individual-level dataset of children’s preschool lead levels linked with future educational outcomes for children in RI, we document significant declines in racial disparities in child lead levels since 1997, due largely to state policies aimed at reducing lead hazards in homes. Exploiting the change in child lead levels as a result of the policy, we generate causal estimates of the impact of preschool lead levels on reading and math test scores through grade 8 in an IV framework. We find that a 5 ug/dl increase in child lead levels reduces test scores by 30-60 percent of a standard deviation, depending on the specification. The effects are strongest in the lower tail of the test score distribution and do not fade over time. We calculate that the decline in racial disparities in lead explains between 37 and 76% of the decline in racial disparities in test scores witnessed over the past decade in RI. http://economics.yale.edu/sites/default/files/aizer_feb_12_2015.pdf So while today, AA children might be less likely to suffer the effects of lead exposure than they used to be, their parents absolutely were more likely to suffer than parents of white children. And if you believe parenting and families have a critical impact on children's success, then you can see that having a parent who continues to suffer from childhood exposure to lead could be problematic. This is just one way that the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow might continue to affect black children today, even if discrimination were no longer an issue. |
Anonymous
This post wins the thread. |
Anonymous
| Oh God, now you are blaming the same lead based paint and lead solder used in most properties built in the US prior to 1978. |
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There are more Blacks and Latinos in college now than at any other time in American history. Whites have been saying that Blacks and Latinos should emphasize education, etc. They are doing it in record numbers. Unwed births of Black and Latino kids are also down from where they were a few years ago. Recent studies have shown that Black father engagement (even in single parent homes) is way up from where it was a few years ago. There are more Black men in college than there are in prison. Hard non-recreational drug use among Blacks is down while it has increased for Whites. Blacks who graduate from college are more actively engaged in community and civic activities in the areas they grew up in than any other race. All these are stats and facts that are readily available on the Internet.
Many Whites are all for equality until their own perceived superiority is threatened. I have said it before but opposition to AA is Whites' last ditch battle to defend the privilege of mediocrity. Elite Whites are fine and will always be fine. It is the Whites that are mediocre or who have otherwise failed to distinguish themselves from other Whites who are most threatened. That is why you can have an incoming class of 1000 students and these Whites are more concerned about the 10-12% URM than they are the admitted White students or the other 90% of the class. You do not hear them complaining about the White students with lower measurables who got in because they assume that those Whites were better in some way - legacy, a better EC, etc. |
Anonymous
1) You are totally wrong. A 2017 Stanford study says otherwise. Just because statistically blacks commit higher crimes doesn't mean an innocent black person gets shot. Do not post a blogger site for reference because it has zero credibility. http://news.stanford.edu/2016/06/28/stanford-researchers-develop-new-statistical-test-shows-racial-profiling-police-traffic-stops/ 2) This is a total lie. School funding is based on property taxes and obviously schools with wealthier neighborhoods get better teachers, better facilities and funding. Why did you conveniently ignore the whites getting away with drug crimes which is the core issue due to which black men are not able to be with families. Suddenly drugs are becoming an issue because whites are getting affected. But when blacks were the ones getting affected by drugs nobody cared and infact blacks ere sent to jail for addiction. Now that whites are getting affected you are talking about drug treatment facilities. This is systemic racism. |
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From your mouth to God's ear. --white person |
Anonymous
That ^pp needs a history lesson. Asians were systematically segregated not that long ago. I read a story about an Indian American who committed suicide back in the early 1900s because the US government denied him the right to own a business and house. He lost everything and then killed himself. Even in sf ca Asian students were not allowed to go to school with white children. |
Anonymous
Question: What evidence do you have that poor whites aren't given a leg up in the admissions process? I know 2 people involved in admissions (at two different well-regarded universities) who would say that they absolutely do. And even with "need-blind" admissions, there are plenty of clues in any application that identify a kid from a poor family, no matter what color the kid is. The problem is not that white kids from poor families aren't accepted to college. The problem is that, as with black kids from poor families, NOT VERY MANY OF THEM APPLY. That's why a university looking for a diverse student body often accepts kids of color from middle and upper middle and upper class families. Those are the kids who are applying. |
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It pretty simple.
Elite schools have figured out that the White privileged class is not always the best source of genius, talent, creativity and innovation. These things come in many forms and from may places. Holistic admission policies are just better at identifying folks with these factors. This thread kind of bears out the selfish nature of the argument. Not one White anti-AA has argued about why their kids benefit the campus or what their kids bring to the table that contributes to the educational experience of those around them. All they talk about is opportunities that are being take from them - that they are being cheated. The Pro AA crowd talks in terms of a more diverse campus and that resulting in a positive experience for all students. |
Anonymous
Ah, so black people should CELEBRATE slavery and their slave-owner ancestry? Now I get it. FFS. Here's an idea: Maybe one of the reasons many mixed-race people consider themselves black is because their white ancestors refused to acknowledge them and so they were reared by and among black/mixed race people. And maybe it also has something to do with the fact that descendants of slavery often have darker skin and so are considered/treated by everyone they meet as "black," regardless of their ancestry. Or maybe you're forgetting about the one-drop rule? |
Anonymous
I am the PP. I know asians suffered and still suffer racism. But i was only raising a point that blacks suffered much more and suffer much more even today. |
Anonymous
That would be fine and dandy if the issue at hand where how to fill out the family tree or who to research on ancestry.com. But the issue at hand is whether there is a lasting legacy for descendants of slavery. Are you arguing that people of mixed race have never been victims of discrimination because they can say to the cop who stops them or the bus driver who sends them to the back of the bus or neighborhood association that won't sell them a home, "I'm actually part white, so lucky me! Your discriminatory rules don't apply!" ?? |
Anonymous
I see you didn't look at the study I linked to. That's a shame. A mind is a terrible thing to waste. |