Meghan Markle twerking video

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't read the 29 pages of comments, just here to say it is really sickening to see the way so many people love to hate this beautiful and talented biracial American woman who is no more messed up than any other celebrity the same people idolize.

I guess there is just some really deep seated racism, even if unconscious, in all these people who have such a knee jerk negative reaction to a black woman marrying into the British royal family and choosing her own independent path.

But hey, never mind all that! Let's get ready for the No Kings rallies this weekend!

I think there’s a different reason why so many people find H&M off-putting.

First: nobody idolizes celebrities. Even A listers are recognized and can make money for their films or music, but the masses don’t obsess over them. And most A list celebs try really hard to avoid being over-exposed—and similarly try to avoid being seen as too fancy or out of touch.

Next: there are plenty of legit A list celebs (and lesser status celebs) who aren’t white—and they are iconic and beloved. Why? Beyond their talent, they are just plain charismatic and likeable. That’s the winning ticket. It’s earned. And it can’t be taught or bought. You have it or you don’t.

Third: nobody likes people who come from a privileged background or flaunt fancy posh nonsense. Americans root for the underdog. Moreover, and this is key: nobody likes a whiner. Victim mentality simply isn’t popular.

I’m sure everyone has heard Julia Roberts tell the story about how she and all the other actors were openly complaining about the heat and exhaustion on set while filming Steel Magnolias. She said Dolly was the only one who never complained and always remained upbeat with a smile. Dolly apparently commented that she had always dreamed of performing, recognized how blessed she was to be there, and would never ever complain about such an amazing opportunity.

And that’s why Dolly is universally adored…and why others have been labeled divas.

H is the poster child for the guy born with a silver spoon in his mouth and M is the poster child for the gal who tries way too hard to impress others for her own personal gain.

They lack the “it” factor and simply cannot make fetch happen. It has nothing to do with race.

They made some bad choices and should not have played the victim card. Can you think of anyone who is universally adored who relied on whining about their victimhood for years? I can’t. Quite the opposite: most successful people who are adored downplay the adversity. People flock to the light; the positive people are the winners. But the positivity must be authentic. Everyone sees through heavily curated happiness…particularly when the person is seeking to monetize it.

Think about Martha Stewart. Once the world realized she was a bit$&, she was no longer adored. But people still reluctantly acknowledged her talent…which was undeniable. Nonetheless, the attention she received was mostly from haters. But M is nowhere near Martha.

Excellent analysis. I agree-- they lack the "it" factor. In part, because they are total downers and make ridiculous complaints. "The ceiling on my cottage at Kensington Palace was too low. My parking space was too far and I had to carry my own groceries." It's like reading The Onion.

+1 No matter where you are in life, people don't want to hear from whiners. Most people admire and are drawn to those who stay positive, work hard, are genuinely friendly and kind, and don't play the victim card.

Yes, there is segment of the population that doesn’t care to hear about injustice and discrimination.

Unfortunately for you, people will continue to speak out against hatred despite your not liking it, PP.

Oh, riiight...the total injustice of it all. How can they possibly survive it? You are minimizing the plight of those who really DO experience injustice and hatred.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I doubt that anyone on this board can actually provide an informed analysis. No one here knows what it’s like to be:

—born into a family where you are told from day one what your career will be
—that your whole family belongs to a country
—that you have very little freedom to explore your interests if they’re not deemed appropriate
—that by law you can’t marry the person of your choosing without permission
—that your internal family matters will be monitored and manipulated by staff members with their own agenda
—that newspapers will openly print racist things about the person you love most
—that your spouse can’t seek clinical treatment for depression if necessary because it might make the family look bad

And on, and on. And yes, there are some people for whom a few of those things might be true, but not many for whom ALL of them are true. And before someone chimes in with all the perks and benefits of being part of the royal family, yes there are a lot.

I don’t defend everything they’ve done by a long shot. I don’t know them and neither do you. I am just mystified by people here making proclamations and analysis as if they do.

Well William has managed just fine.

Is he the spare? Meaning that despite all the restrictions he will not even be king at the end? Also, did I miss something about Kate’s background? Has she been subjected to public unapologetic racism in the press?

Not to mention, kids from any family are different. If you have more than one, do they all act, feel, and respond in lockstep?

She didn’t have to marry into it.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't read the 29 pages of comments, just here to say it is really sickening to see the way so many people love to hate this beautiful and talented biracial American woman who is no more messed up than any other celebrity the same people idolize.

I guess there is just some really deep seated racism, even if unconscious, in all these people who have such a knee jerk negative reaction to a black woman marrying into the British royal family and choosing her own independent path.

But hey, never mind all that! Let's get ready for the No Kings rallies this weekend!

I think there’s a different reason why so many people find H&M off-putting.

First: nobody idolizes celebrities. Even A listers are recognized and can make money for their films or music, but the masses don’t obsess over them. And most A list celebs try really hard to avoid being over-exposed—and similarly try to avoid being seen as too fancy or out of touch.

Next: there are plenty of legit A list celebs (and lesser status celebs) who aren’t white—and they are iconic and beloved. Why? Beyond their talent, they are just plain charismatic and likeable. That’s the winning ticket. It’s earned. And it can’t be taught or bought. You have it or you don’t.

Third: nobody likes people who come from a privileged background or flaunt fancy posh nonsense. Americans root for the underdog. Moreover, and this is key: nobody likes a whiner. Victim mentality simply isn’t popular.

I’m sure everyone has heard Julia Roberts tell the story about how she and all the other actors were openly complaining about the heat and exhaustion on set while filming Steel Magnolias. She said Dolly was the only one who never complained and always remained upbeat with a smile. Dolly apparently commented that she had always dreamed of performing, recognized how blessed she was to be there, and would never ever complain about such an amazing opportunity.

And that’s why Dolly is universally adored…and why others have been labeled divas.

H is the poster child for the guy born with a silver spoon in his mouth and M is the poster child for the gal who tries way too hard to impress others for her own personal gain.

They lack the “it” factor and simply cannot make fetch happen. It has nothing to do with race.

They made some bad choices and should not have played the victim card. Can you think of anyone who is universally adored who relied on whining about their victimhood for years? I can’t. Quite the opposite: most successful people who are adored downplay the adversity. People flock to the light; the positive people are the winners. But the positivity must be authentic. Everyone sees through heavily curated happiness…particularly when the person is seeking to monetize it.

Think about Martha Stewart. Once the world realized she was a bit$&, she was no longer adored. But people still reluctantly acknowledged her talent…which was undeniable. Nonetheless, the attention she received was mostly from haters. But M is nowhere near Martha.

Excellent analysis. I agree-- they lack the "it" factor. In part, because they are total downers and make ridiculous complaints. "The ceiling on my cottage at Kensington Palace was too low. My parking space was too far and I had to carry my own groceries." It's like reading The Onion.

+1 No matter where you are in life, people don't want to hear from whiners. Most people admire and are drawn to those who stay positive, work hard, are genuinely friendly and kind, and don't play the victim card.

Yes, there is segment of the population that doesn’t care to hear about injustice and discrimination.

Unfortunately for you, people will continue to speak out against hatred despite your not liking it, PP.

Oh, riiight...the total injustice of it all. How can they possibly survive it? You are minimizing the plight of those who really DO experience injustice and hatred.

There is an even larger segment of the population that fails to see merit in whining about how unfair one's life is from people who have millions at their disposal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I doubt that anyone on this board can actually provide an informed analysis. No one here knows what it’s like to be:

—born into a family where you are told from day one what your career will be
—that your whole family belongs to a country
—that you have very little freedom to explore your interests if they’re not deemed appropriate
—that by law you can’t marry the person of your choosing without permission
—that your internal family matters will be monitored and manipulated by staff members with their own agenda
—that newspapers will openly print racist things about the person you love most
—that your spouse can’t seek clinical treatment for depression if necessary because it might make the family look bad

And on, and on. And yes, there are some people for whom a few of those things might be true, but not many for whom ALL of them are true. And before someone chimes in with all the perks and benefits of being part of the royal family, yes there are a lot.

I don’t defend everything they’ve done by a long shot. I don’t know them and neither do you. I am just mystified by people here making proclamations and analysis as if they do.

Well William has managed just fine.

Is he the spare? Meaning that despite all the restrictions he will not even be king at the end? Also, did I miss something about Kate’s background? Has she been subjected to public unapologetic racism in the press?

Not to mention, kids from any family are different. If you have more than one, do they all act, feel, and respond in lockstep?

William has and will have much, much more responsibility and scrutiny. As the heir you can support your country and still have some privacy and more autonomy. And if Harry has legit complaints about being the 2nd youngest, then his cousins can have the similar complaints about not having the same advantages as Harry since they are kids of the king's sibs and not the king. When does it end? When you are a grown up and do your duty (or not, and leave graciously.)

And yes, Kate faced her own trials with the press both before they were married and when she was dealing with cancer. The racism in the press was way way overblown just as they have way overblown their (perceived) danger from the paps.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I doubt that anyone on this board can actually provide an informed analysis. No one here knows what it’s like to be:

—born into a family where you are told from day one what your career will be
—that your whole family belongs to a country
—that you have very little freedom to explore your interests if they’re not deemed appropriate
—that by law you can’t marry the person of your choosing without permission
—that your internal family matters will be monitored and manipulated by staff members with their own agenda
—that newspapers will openly print racist things about the person you love most
—that your spouse can’t seek clinical treatment for depression if necessary because it might make the family look bad

And on, and on. And yes, there are some people for whom a few of those things might be true, but not many for whom ALL of them are true. And before someone chimes in with all the perks and benefits of being part of the royal family, yes there are a lot.

I don’t defend everything they’ve done by a long shot. I don’t know them and neither do you. I am just mystified by people here making proclamations and analysis as if they do.

Well William has managed just fine.

Is he the spare? Meaning that despite all the restrictions he will not even be king at the end? Also, did I miss something about Kate’s background? Has she been subjected to public unapologetic racism in the press?

Not to mention, kids from any family are different. If you have more than one, do they all act, feel, and respond in lockstep?

William has and will have much, much more responsibility and scrutiny. As the heir you can support your country and still have some privacy and more autonomy. And if Harry has legit complaints about being the 2nd youngest, then his cousins can have the similar complaints about not having the same advantages as Harry since they are kids of the king's sibs and not the king. When does it end? When you are a grown up and do your duty (or not, and leave graciously.)

And yes, Kate faced her own trials with the press both before they were married and when she was dealing with cancer. The racism in the press was way way overblown just as they have way overblown their (perceived) danger from the paps.

From a year ago:

Neo-Nazi podcasters sent to prison on terror charges for targeting Prince Harry and his young son

https://apnews.com/article/prince-harry-targeted-neonazi-podcast-terrorism-56ae552bb860b864fba1ed323b89c4d7

“A neo-Nazi podcaster who called for the deaths of Prince Harry and his young son received a prison sentence Thursday along with his co-host Thursday. The sentencing judge in London called the duo “dedicated and unapologetic white supremacists” who encouraged terrorism.“

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't read the 29 pages of comments, just here to say it is really sickening to see the way so many people love to hate this beautiful and talented biracial American woman who is no more messed up than any other celebrity the same people idolize.

I guess there is just some really deep seated racism, even if unconscious, in all these people who have such a knee jerk negative reaction to a black woman marrying into the British royal family and choosing her own independent path.

But hey, never mind all that! Let's get ready for the No Kings rallies this weekend!

I think there’s a different reason why so many people find H&M off-putting.

First: nobody idolizes celebrities. Even A listers are recognized and can make money for their films or music, but the masses don’t obsess over them. And most A list celebs try really hard to avoid being over-exposed—and similarly try to avoid being seen as too fancy or out of touch.

Next: there are plenty of legit A list celebs (and lesser status celebs) who aren’t white—and they are iconic and beloved. Why? Beyond their talent, they are just plain charismatic and likeable. That’s the winning ticket. It’s earned. And it can’t be taught or bought. You have it or you don’t.

Third: nobody likes people who come from a privileged background or flaunt fancy posh nonsense. Americans root for the underdog. Moreover, and this is key: nobody likes a whiner. Victim mentality simply isn’t popular.

I’m sure everyone has heard Julia Roberts tell the story about how she and all the other actors were openly complaining about the heat and exhaustion on set while filming Steel Magnolias. She said Dolly was the only one who never complained and always remained upbeat with a smile. Dolly apparently commented that she had always dreamed of performing, recognized how blessed she was to be there, and would never ever complain about such an amazing opportunity.

And that’s why Dolly is universally adored…and why others have been labeled divas.

H is the poster child for the guy born with a silver spoon in his mouth and M is the poster child for the gal who tries way too hard to impress others for her own personal gain.

They lack the “it” factor and simply cannot make fetch happen. It has nothing to do with race.

They made some bad choices and should not have played the victim card. Can you think of anyone who is universally adored who relied on whining about their victimhood for years? I can’t. Quite the opposite: most successful people who are adored downplay the adversity. People flock to the light; the positive people are the winners. But the positivity must be authentic. Everyone sees through heavily curated happiness…particularly when the person is seeking to monetize it.

Think about Martha Stewart. Once the world realized she was a bit$&, she was no longer adored. But people still reluctantly acknowledged her talent…which was undeniable. Nonetheless, the attention she received was mostly from haters. But M is nowhere near Martha.

Excellent analysis. I agree-- they lack the "it" factor. In part, because they are total downers and make ridiculous complaints. "The ceiling on my cottage at Kensington Palace was too low. My parking space was too far and I had to carry my own groceries." It's like reading The Onion.

+1 No matter where you are in life, people don't want to hear from whiners. Most people admire and are drawn to those who stay positive, work hard, are genuinely friendly and kind, and don't play the victim card.

Yes, there is segment of the population that doesn’t care to hear about injustice and discrimination.

Unfortunately for you, people will continue to speak out against hatred despite your not liking it, PP.

They have millions.

Daddy telling you that you can't have more millions unless you help out with the family business is not injustice. It's grownupping.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I doubt that anyone on this board can actually provide an informed analysis. No one here knows what it’s like to be:

—born into a family where you are told from day one what your career will be
—that your whole family belongs to a country
—that you have very little freedom to explore your interests if they’re not deemed appropriate
—that by law you can’t marry the person of your choosing without permission
—that your internal family matters will be monitored and manipulated by staff members with their own agenda
—that newspapers will openly print racist things about the person you love most
—that your spouse can’t seek clinical treatment for depression if necessary because it might make the family look bad

And on, and on. And yes, there are some people for whom a few of those things might be true, but not many for whom ALL of them are true. And before someone chimes in with all the perks and benefits of being part of the royal family, yes there are a lot.

I don’t defend everything they’ve done by a long shot. I don’t know them and neither do you. I am just mystified by people here making proclamations and analysis as if they do.

The same online that said Kate was faking cancer while she was fighting cancer?

And then complained that Kate wasn't back to work when she was in recovery?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I doubt that anyone on this board can actually provide an informed analysis. No one here knows what it’s like to be:

—born into a family where you are told from day one what your career will be
—that your whole family belongs to a country
—that you have very little freedom to explore your interests if they’re not deemed appropriate
—that by law you can’t marry the person of your choosing without permission
—that your internal family matters will be monitored and manipulated by staff members with their own agenda
—that newspapers will openly print racist things about the person you love most
—that your spouse can’t seek clinical treatment for depression if necessary because it might make the family look bad

And on, and on. And yes, there are some people for whom a few of those things might be true, but not many for whom ALL of them are true. And before someone chimes in with all the perks and benefits of being part of the royal family, yes there are a lot.

I don’t defend everything they’ve done by a long shot. I don’t know them and neither do you. I am just mystified by people here making proclamations and analysis as if they do.

The same online that said Kate was faking cancer while she was fighting cancer?

And then complained that Kate wasn't back to work when she was in recovery?

+1. The press controls the press. Stop demanding dad control something he can’t.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Since there is no other place to discuss...

The Royal Family made two mistakes - kicking out Harry and Meghan and downsizing the Royal Family.

Today's balcony appearance during Trooping the Colour was so underwhelming. Unfortunately, the majority of adults on the balcony just aren't good looking. The ones that are good looking have no interesting style and charisma. Even the cute kids just stand there like mini-adults (Louis's antics don't seem to be as much as he gets older). Part of the cuteness is watching them interacting with their similarly aged cousins.

Say what you will about Meghan and Harry, but they had all the charisma in that family (IMO, that's the bigger reason they were pushed aside and not race). Meghan was good looking and had better style.

Balcony appearances with just KC, Camilla, Edward, Sophie (not even their kids anymore!), Anne and her husband, W&K and the kids just aren't interesting.

If there can't be Harry and Meghan, at least bring back all those cousins the public only sees once or twice a year at these events. Show the Tindalls and their kids, Beatrice and Eugenie and their families.

Katherine has way more charisma than Meghan.

Kate has as much charisma as a sack of white flour destined for a loaf of bread. There is nothing interesting about her. I cannot think of one thing that makes her interesting. Her style is "old lady". She never has said anything interesting or memorable. She totally lacks any interesting hobbies or anything that makes her unique. Yep, not one thing. She's just the perfect girl who follows the rules and get rewarded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I doubt that anyone on this board can actually provide an informed analysis. No one here knows what it’s like to be:

—born into a family where you are told from day one what your career will be
—that your whole family belongs to a country
—that you have very little freedom to explore your interests if they’re not deemed appropriate
—that by law you can’t marry the person of your choosing without permission
—that your internal family matters will be monitored and manipulated by staff members with their own agenda
—that newspapers will openly print racist things about the person you love most
—that your spouse can’t seek clinical treatment for depression if necessary because it might make the family look bad

And on, and on. And yes, there are some people for whom a few of those things might be true, but not many for whom ALL of them are true. And before someone chimes in with all the perks and benefits of being part of the royal family, yes there are a lot.

I don’t defend everything they’ve done by a long shot. I don’t know them and neither do you. I am just mystified by people here making proclamations and analysis as if they do.

Well William has managed just fine.

Is he the spare? Meaning that despite all the restrictions he will not even be king at the end? Also, did I miss something about Kate’s background? Has she been subjected to public unapologetic racism in the press?

Not to mention, kids from any family are different. If you have more than one, do they all act, feel, and respond in lockstep?

She didn’t have to marry into it.

+1

She could not walk away from the opportunity. Chelsea could, because she fully knew the flipside, dated him long enough.

She was drawn like a magnet, he was too, there was no way either would say “no.” Nor “wait.”

[Anonymous]

I would say that being a member of the royal family and posting videos of yourself twerking are two things that don't work together.

Guess it's good she left.

[Anonymous]

??? That's not twerking.

Were you also offended by the AOC Breakfast Club video?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would say that being a member of the royal family and posting videos of yourself twerking are two things that don't work together.

Guess it's good she left.

Good thing that wasn’t twerking, then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would say that being a member of the royal family and posting videos of yourself twerking are two things that don't work together.

Guess it's good she left.

Ha! Do you never dance? Or are you one of those that head bob with a drink in your hand and call it dancing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would say that being a member of the royal family and posting videos of yourself twerking are two things that don't work together.

Guess it's good she left.

Ha! Do you never dance? Or are you one of those that head bob with a drink in your hand and call it dancing?

People tend to view certain kinds of behaviors and social expectations differently, depending on their backgrounds.