Meghan Markle twerking video

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't read the 29 pages of comments, just here to say it is really sickening to see the way so many people love to hate this beautiful and talented biracial American woman who is no more messed up than any other celebrity the same people idolize.

I guess there is just some really deep seated racism, even if unconscious, in all these people who have such a knee jerk negative reaction to a black woman marrying into the British royal family and choosing her own independent path.

But hey, never mind all that! Let's get ready for the No Kings rallies this weekend!

Hi there Ms Independent path. The actual deal with Meghan is that she is a beautiful and talented biracial American woman who married into the British royal family and is living off of her husband’s name/wealth more than she is carving her independent path. Sure you can cry racial discrimination, but she is building her self as a “focus on the family” and live off of my husbands name more than she is being an independent woman. She isn’t worrying about health insurance and getting food on the table, she is worrying if her monogram has enough curls in it. That money doesn’t all come from her. She isn’t independent.

DP. But this is literally true of everyone who marries into this family and they don’t get endless hate. Like Sophie was on camera literally trying to trade on her husbands family and you never hear about that. Kate has never had a real job and her family is broke. Camilla has basically had Charles paying her bills before they were even married after her divorce. Fergie isn’t even married to Andrew anymore and still relies on him to house her. Etc. but only one of these married in bums inspires that long hate filled threads like this.

They were all hated. Camilla couldn’t go to the grocery store for years. Kate was despised while renovating. Margaret was reviled. If the royals controlled the press, this would never happen. However, the royals don’t control the press. They do control their response to it, and they learned that gray rocking works.

However, Harry and Meghan refused to gray rock. They tried to complain, explain and then blame people for things outside their control. They were like the family members who never listen. Then they loudly complained about not being heard. Constantly airing grievances is like inviting people to an argument. No, people don’t have to attend. But it’s not a strategy for likability.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Since there is no other place to discuss...

The Royal Family made two mistakes - kicking out Harry and Meghan and downsizing the Royal Family.

Today's balcony appearance during Trooping the Colour was so underwhelming. Unfortunately, the majority of adults on the balcony just aren't good looking. The ones that are good looking have no interesting style and charisma. Even the cute kids just stand there like mini-adults (Louis's antics don't seem to be as much as he gets older). Part of the cuteness is watching them interacting with their similarly aged cousins.

Say what you will about Meghan and Harry, but they had all the charisma in that family (IMO, that's the bigger reason they were pushed aside and not race). Meghan was good looking and had better style.

Balcony appearances with just KC, Camilla, Edward, Sophie (not even their kids anymore!), Anne and her husband, W&K and the kids just aren't interesting.

If there can't be Harry and Meghan, at least bring back all those cousins the public only sees once or twice a year at these events. Show the Tindalls and their kids, Beatrice and Eugenie and their families.

Yes, I agree I would at least like to see Beatrice & Eugenie. As non-official working royals, they certainly put in their dues and pull their weight. At least reward them for their loyalty and their respect for the British Royal Family. Also, Edward's kids.

I think the public is over H&M due to all their trashing of the BRF every chance they get, with little to prove it. And the Royals are just grey rocking them, so there is no push back against H&M's questionable claims.

40 yo Harry - "my father has cut me off financially" - duh, either stay as a working Royal or make your own money as a middle-aged adult.

I love the idea that standing on a balcony is a prize for years of letting the tabloids say horrible things about you just to make the top of the line of succession look better. No thanks!

[Anonymous]

I doubt that anyone on this board can actually provide an informed analysis. No one here knows what it’s like to be:

—born into a family where you are told from day one what your career will be
—that your whole family belongs to a country
—that you have very little freedom to explore your interests if they’re not deemed appropriate
—that by law you can’t marry the person of your choosing without permission
—that your internal family matters will be monitored and manipulated by staff members with their own agenda
—that newspapers will openly print racist things about the person you love most
—that your spouse can’t seek clinical treatment for depression if necessary because it might make the family look bad

And on, and on. And yes, there are some people for whom a few of those things might be true, but not many for whom ALL of them are true. And before someone chimes in with all the perks and benefits of being part of the royal family, yes there are a lot.

I don’t defend everything they’ve done by a long shot. I don’t know them and neither do you. I am just mystified by people here making proclamations and analysis as if they do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I doubt that anyone on this board can actually provide an informed analysis. No one here knows what it’s like to be:

—born into a family where you are told from day one what your career will be
—that your whole family belongs to a country
—that you have very little freedom to explore your interests if they’re not deemed appropriate
—that by law you can’t marry the person of your choosing without permission
—that your internal family matters will be monitored and manipulated by staff members with their own agenda
—that newspapers will openly print racist things about the person you love most
—that your spouse can’t seek clinical treatment for depression if necessary because it might make the family look bad

And on, and on. And yes, there are some people for whom a few of those things might be true, but not many for whom ALL of them are true. And before someone chimes in with all the perks and benefits of being part of the royal family, yes there are a lot.

I don’t defend everything they’ve done by a long shot. I don’t know them and neither do you. I am just mystified by people here making proclamations and analysis as if they do.

Oh, boo hoo. They do t have to whine, complain, and put down family members on TV and in books and podcasts. I don't need to know them to have an opinion on such public figures portraying themselves as victims to make a buck.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't read the 29 pages of comments, just here to say it is really sickening to see the way so many people love to hate this beautiful and talented biracial American woman who is no more messed up than any other celebrity the same people idolize.

I guess there is just some really deep seated racism, even if unconscious, in all these people who have such a knee jerk negative reaction to a black woman marrying into the British royal family and choosing her own independent path.

But hey, never mind all that! Let's get ready for the No Kings rallies this weekend!

Hi there Ms Independent path. The actual deal with Meghan is that she is a beautiful and talented biracial American woman who married into the British royal family and is living off of her husband’s name/wealth more than she is carving her independent path. Sure you can cry racial discrimination, but she is building her self as a “focus on the family” and live off of my husbands name more than she is being an independent woman. She isn’t worrying about health insurance and getting food on the table, she is worrying if her monogram has enough curls in it. That money doesn’t all come from her. She isn’t independent.

DP. But this is literally true of everyone who marries into this family and they don’t get endless hate. Like Sophie was on camera literally trying to trade on her husbands family and you never hear about that. Kate has never had a real job and her family is broke. Camilla has basically had Charles paying her bills before they were even married after her divorce. Fergie isn’t even married to Andrew anymore and still relies on him to house her. Etc. but only one of these married in bums inspires that long hate filled threads like this.

They were all hated. Camilla couldn’t go to the grocery store for years. Kate was despised while renovating. Margaret was reviled. If the royals controlled the press, this would never happen. However, the royals don’t control the press. They do control their response to it, and they learned that gray rocking works.

However, Harry and Meghan refused to gray rock. They tried to complain, explain and then blame people for things outside their control. They were like the family members who never listen. Then they loudly complained about not being heard. Constantly airing grievances is like inviting people to an argument. No, people don’t have to attend. But it’s not a strategy for likability.

What is gray rocking?

Do you really believe the Royals don't control the press?

The Press is absolutely trying to tell a story with the Royal Family. In this story, there has to be a villain and a hero for dramatic effect. You know how Real Housewives, Kardashians, etc. are not 100% real and they loosely follow a story with the dramatic arc? Same with the British tabloids and the Royal Family.

I am old enough to have grown up in the 80s with a mother/grandmother who followed all the Diana stuff. I read what the Enquirer would write about Diana/Fergie. Diana and Fergie could only be the co-heroines if someone else in the family were the villains. Else, one would have to play the part of Villain while the other one was the Hero. When Fergie was first married (this was in the 80s), I absolutely remember the tabloid treatment she got. At that point she was painted as the heroine - fun, relatable, down to earth, not stuff. Diana had to be the villain. She was painted as the snob. Not relatable. She had to be the bad guy. Then over time, it switched. Fergie became the villain and Diana was back to being the hero.

The Royal Family need W&K to be the heros in this recent telling. They dynamic foursome - where they were all co-heroes - was never going to fly. They needed to make Harry and Meaghan the villains.

I'm not a Kate super fan nor am I a Kate hater, but you must admit, when she speaks she doesn't have as much gravitas. She is a bit lacking in the charisma department. Meghan has much more charisma than Kate. After she married Harry, Meghan went right to work and had some nice wins (the Greenfell cookbook, that capsule wardrobe thing, modernizing their Instagram, more stylish of a dresser). This was during the time when Kate wasn't working as much. In those months, Meghan (and by extension Harry) were on a path to outshine W&K.

W&K wouldn't allow that. As heir to the throne, Will and his family had to be the heroes. I absolutely believe he is feeding negative stories to the press as he needed to make H&M the villains. The Press knew their role was to paint H&M in a negative light as possible so the public would view them as the villains in the story.

I wish it wasn't the case - I wish the Royal Family realized you could have multiple heroes in the family and the press would play along but that isn't to be the case. It will be interesting to see how much changes by the time George, Charlotte and Louis are adults with families of their own. I like to think that Kate won't allow it to happen and hopefully George (let's face it, that family does seem like the most normal family of all previous future kings. All thanks to Kate) won't let it happen either.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't read the 29 pages of comments, just here to say it is really sickening to see the way so many people love to hate this beautiful and talented biracial American woman who is no more messed up than any other celebrity the same people idolize.

I guess there is just some really deep seated racism, even if unconscious, in all these people who have such a knee jerk negative reaction to a black woman marrying into the British royal family and choosing her own independent path.

But hey, never mind all that! Let's get ready for the No Kings rallies this weekend!

I think there’s a different reason why so many people find H&M off-putting.

First: nobody idolizes celebrities. Even A listers are recognized and can make money for their films or music, but the masses don’t obsess over them. And most A list celebs try really hard to avoid being over-exposed—and similarly try to avoid being seen as too fancy or out of touch.

Next: there are plenty of legit A list celebs (and lesser status celebs) who aren’t white—and they are iconic and beloved. Why? Beyond their talent, they are just plain charismatic and likeable. That’s the winning ticket. It’s earned. And it can’t be taught or bought. You have it or you don’t.

Third: nobody likes people who come from a privileged background or flaunt fancy posh nonsense. Americans root for the underdog. Moreover, and this is key: nobody likes a whiner. Victim mentality simply isn’t popular.

I’m sure everyone has heard Julia Roberts tell the story about how she and all the other actors were openly complaining about the heat and exhaustion on set while filming Steel Magnolias. She said Dolly was the only one who never complained and always remained upbeat with a smile. Dolly apparently commented that she had always dreamed of performing, recognized how blessed she was to be there, and would never ever complain about such an amazing opportunity.

And that’s why Dolly is universally adored…and why others have been labeled divas.

H is the poster child for the guy born with a silver spoon in his mouth and M is the poster child for the gal who tries way too hard to impress others for her own personal gain.

They lack the “it” factor and simply cannot make fetch happen. It has nothing to do with race.

They made some bad choices and should not have played the victim card. Can you think of anyone who is universally adored who relied on whining about their victimhood for years? I can’t. Quite the opposite: most successful people who are adored downplay the adversity. People flock to the light; the positive people are the winners. But the positivity must be authentic. Everyone sees through heavily curated happiness…particularly when the person is seeking to monetize it.

Think about Martha Stewart. Once the world realized she was a bit$&, she was no longer adored. But people still reluctantly acknowledged her talent…which was undeniable. Nonetheless, the attention she received was mostly from haters. But M is nowhere near Martha.

Excellent analysis. I agree-- they lack the "it" factor. In part, because they are total downers and make ridiculous complaints. "The ceiling on my cottage at Kensington Palace was too low. My parking space was too far and I had to carry my own groceries." It's like reading The Onion.

+1 No matter where you are in life, people don't want to hear from whiners. Most people admire and are drawn to those who stay positive, work hard, are genuinely friendly and kind, and don't play the victim card.

Yes, there is segment of the population that doesn’t care to hear about injustice and discrimination.

Unfortunately for you, people will continue to speak out against hatred despite your not liking it, PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I doubt that anyone on this board can actually provide an informed analysis. No one here knows what it’s like to be:

—born into a family where you are told from day one what your career will be
—that your whole family belongs to a country
—that you have very little freedom to explore your interests if they’re not deemed appropriate
—that by law you can’t marry the person of your choosing without permission
—that your internal family matters will be monitored and manipulated by staff members with their own agenda
—that newspapers will openly print racist things about the person you love most
—that your spouse can’t seek clinical treatment for depression if necessary because it might make the family look bad

And on, and on. And yes, there are some people for whom a few of those things might be true, but not many for whom ALL of them are true. And before someone chimes in with all the perks and benefits of being part of the royal family, yes there are a lot.

I don’t defend everything they’ve done by a long shot. I don’t know them and neither do you. I am just mystified by people here making proclamations and analysis as if they do.

Well William has managed just fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't read the 29 pages of comments, just here to say it is really sickening to see the way so many people love to hate this beautiful and talented biracial American woman who is no more messed up than any other celebrity the same people idolize.

I guess there is just some really deep seated racism, even if unconscious, in all these people who have such a knee jerk negative reaction to a black woman marrying into the British royal family and choosing her own independent path.

But hey, never mind all that! Let's get ready for the No Kings rallies this weekend!

Hi there Ms Independent path. The actual deal with Meghan is that she is a beautiful and talented biracial American woman who married into the British royal family and is living off of her husband’s name/wealth more than she is carving her independent path. Sure you can cry racial discrimination, but she is building her self as a “focus on the family” and live off of my husbands name more than she is being an independent woman. She isn’t worrying about health insurance and getting food on the table, she is worrying if her monogram has enough curls in it. That money doesn’t all come from her. She isn’t independent.

DP. But this is literally true of everyone who marries into this family and they don’t get endless hate. Like Sophie was on camera literally trying to trade on her husbands family and you never hear about that. Kate has never had a real job and her family is broke. Camilla has basically had Charles paying her bills before they were even married after her divorce. Fergie isn’t even married to Andrew anymore and still relies on him to house her. Etc. but only one of these married in bums inspires that long hate filled threads like this.

They were all hated. Camilla couldn’t go to the grocery store for years. Kate was despised while renovating. Margaret was reviled. If the royals controlled the press, this would never happen. However, the royals don’t control the press. They do control their response to it, and they learned that gray rocking works.

However, Harry and Meghan refused to gray rock. They tried to complain, explain and then blame people for things outside their control. They were like the family members who never listen. Then they loudly complained about not being heard. Constantly airing grievances is like inviting people to an argument. No, people don’t have to attend. But it’s not a strategy for likability.

What is gray rocking?

Do you really believe the Royals don't control the press?

The Press is absolutely trying to tell a story with the Royal Family. In this story, there has to be a villain and a hero for dramatic effect. You know how Real Housewives, Kardashians, etc. are not 100% real and they loosely follow a story with the dramatic arc? Same with the British tabloids and the Royal Family.

I am old enough to have grown up in the 80s with a mother/grandmother who followed all the Diana stuff. I read what the Enquirer would write about Diana/Fergie. Diana and Fergie could only be the co-heroines if someone else in the family were the villains. Else, one would have to play the part of Villain while the other one was the Hero. When Fergie was first married (this was in the 80s), I absolutely remember the tabloid treatment she got. At that point she was painted as the heroine - fun, relatable, down to earth, not stuff. Diana had to be the villain. She was painted as the snob. Not relatable. She had to be the bad guy. Then over time, it switched. Fergie became the villain and Diana was back to being the hero.

The Royal Family need W&K to be the heros in this recent telling. They dynamic foursome - where they were all co-heroes - was never going to fly. They needed to make Harry and Meaghan the villains.

I'm not a Kate super fan nor am I a Kate hater, but you must admit, when she speaks she doesn't have as much gravitas. She is a bit lacking in the charisma department. Meghan has much more charisma than Kate. After she married Harry, Meghan went right to work and had some nice wins (the Greenfell cookbook, that capsule wardrobe thing, modernizing their Instagram, more stylish of a dresser). This was during the time when Kate wasn't working as much. In those months, Meghan (and by extension Harry) were on a path to outshine W&K.

W&K wouldn't allow that. As heir to the throne, Will and his family had to be the heroes. I absolutely believe he is feeding negative stories to the press as he needed to make H&M the villains. The Press knew their role was to paint H&M in a negative light as possible so the public would view them as the villains in the story.

I wish it wasn't the case - I wish the Royal Family realized you could have multiple heroes in the family and the press would play along but that isn't to be the case. It will be interesting to see how much changes by the time George, Charlotte and Louis are adults with families of their own. I like to think that Kate won't allow it to happen and hopefully George (let's face it, that family does seem like the most normal family of all previous future kings. All thanks to Kate) won't let it happen either.

No they don’t control the press. The press controls the press. They’re too dense to understand that. It’s one of the most irritating things about them: the way they whine about something neither you nor I don’t control.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I doubt that anyone on this board can actually provide an informed analysis. No one here knows what it’s like to be:

—born into a family where you are told from day one what your career will be
—that your whole family belongs to a country
—that you have very little freedom to explore your interests if they’re not deemed appropriate
—that by law you can’t marry the person of your choosing without permission
—that your internal family matters will be monitored and manipulated by staff members with their own agenda
—that newspapers will openly print racist things about the person you love most
—that your spouse can’t seek clinical treatment for depression if necessary because it might make the family look bad

And on, and on. And yes, there are some people for whom a few of those things might be true, but not many for whom ALL of them are true. And before someone chimes in with all the perks and benefits of being part of the royal family, yes there are a lot.

I don’t defend everything they’ve done by a long shot. I don’t know them and neither do you. I am just mystified by people here making proclamations and analysis as if they do.

Well William has managed just fine.

Is he the spare? Meaning that despite all the restrictions he will not even be king at the end? Also, did I miss something about Kate’s background? Has she been subjected to public unapologetic racism in the press?

Not to mention, kids from any family are different. If you have more than one, do they all act, feel, and respond in lockstep?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I doubt that anyone on this board can actually provide an informed analysis. No one here knows what it’s like to be:

—born into a family where you are told from day one what your career will be
—that your whole family belongs to a country
—that you have very little freedom to explore your interests if they’re not deemed appropriate
—that by law you can’t marry the person of your choosing without permission
—that your internal family matters will be monitored and manipulated by staff members with their own agenda
—that newspapers will openly print racist things about the person you love most
—that your spouse can’t seek clinical treatment for depression if necessary because it might make the family look bad

And on, and on. And yes, there are some people for whom a few of those things might be true, but not many for whom ALL of them are true. And before someone chimes in with all the perks and benefits of being part of the royal family, yes there are a lot.

I don’t defend everything they’ve done by a long shot. I don’t know them and neither do you. I am just mystified by people here making proclamations and analysis as if they do.

Well William has managed just fine.

Is he the spare? Meaning that despite all the restrictions he will not even be king at the end? Also, did I miss something about Kate’s background? Has she been subjected to public unapologetic racism in the press?

Not to mention, kids from any family are different. If you have more than one, do they all act, feel, and respond in lockstep?

She didn’t have to marry into it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I didn't read the 29 pages of comments, just here to say it is really sickening to see the way so many people love to hate this beautiful and talented biracial American woman who is no more messed up than any other celebrity the same people idolize.

I guess there is just some really deep seated racism, even if unconscious, in all these people who have such a knee jerk negative reaction to a black woman marrying into the British royal family and choosing her own independent path.

But hey, never mind all that! Let's get ready for the No Kings rallies this weekend!

Many of us were huge fans and very excited in the beginning through the wedding, but once she turned into a stereotypical nightmare American sister/daughter in law, especially the trashy monetizing of family dirty laundry, we turned from huge fans to the opposite.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since there is no other place to discuss...

The Royal Family made two mistakes - kicking out Harry and Meghan and downsizing the Royal Family.

Today's balcony appearance during Trooping the Colour was so underwhelming. Unfortunately, the majority of adults on the balcony just aren't good looking. The ones that are good looking have no interesting style and charisma. Even the cute kids just stand there like mini-adults (Louis's antics don't seem to be as much as he gets older). Part of the cuteness is watching them interacting with their similarly aged cousins.

Say what you will about Meghan and Harry, but they had all the charisma in that family (IMO, that's the bigger reason they were pushed aside and not race). Meghan was good looking and had better style.

Balcony appearances with just KC, Camilla, Edward, Sophie (not even their kids anymore!), Anne and her husband, W&K and the kids just aren't interesting.

If there can't be Harry and Meghan, at least bring back all those cousins the public only sees once or twice a year at these events. Show the Tindalls and their kids, Beatrice and Eugenie and their families.

Katherine has way more charisma than Meghan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since there is no other place to discuss...

The Royal Family made two mistakes - kicking out Harry and Meghan and downsizing the Royal Family.

Today's balcony appearance during Trooping the Colour was so underwhelming. Unfortunately, the majority of adults on the balcony just aren't good looking. The ones that are good looking have no interesting style and charisma. Even the cute kids just stand there like mini-adults (Louis's antics don't seem to be as much as he gets older). Part of the cuteness is watching them interacting with their similarly aged cousins.

Say what you will about Meghan and Harry, but they had all the charisma in that family (IMO, that's the bigger reason they were pushed aside and not race). Meghan was good looking and had better style.

Balcony appearances with just KC, Camilla, Edward, Sophie (not even their kids anymore!), Anne and her husband, W&K and the kids just aren't interesting.

If there can't be Harry and Meghan, at least bring back all those cousins the public only sees once or twice a year at these events. Show the Tindalls and their kids, Beatrice and Eugenie and their families.

Yes, I agree I would at least like to see Beatrice & Eugenie. As non-official working royals, they certainly put in their dues and pull their weight. At least reward them for their loyalty and their respect for the British Royal Family. Also, Edward's kids.

I think the public is over H&M due to all their trashing of the BRF every chance they get, with little to prove it. And the Royals are just grey rocking them, so there is no push back against H&M's questionable claims.

40 yo Harry - "my father has cut me off financially" - duh, either stay as a working Royal or make your own money as a middle-aged adult.

I agree that these two privileged able bodied, high educated millionaires openly complaining and whining about daddy cutting off their money, after making such a huge show about not wanting anything to do with the family business, during the terrible inflation economy in both the UK and the USA, showed their true colors of entitlement and turned a lot of people against them.

They should have reacted with how excited they were to make it on their own, and thanked his family for the privilege and freedom the british royal family name gave them to start their newly acquired freedom in the US with such a position of resources and possibilities. If they had taken that approach, instead of whining about their millions not being enough, then selling family dirt for money in a very public act of vengeance, they would have come out as beloved and admirable, especially in America where independence, bucking privilege and lifting yourself up from your own bootstraps is considered part of our national identity.

Instead, they looked like a petulant, spoiled, tone deaf adult man child and his grifting wife, completely out of touch with anything beyond the castle gates.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't read the 29 pages of comments, just here to say it is really sickening to see the way so many people love to hate this beautiful and talented biracial American woman who is no more messed up than any other celebrity the same people idolize.

I guess there is just some really deep seated racism, even if unconscious, in all these people who have such a knee jerk negative reaction to a black woman marrying into the British royal family and choosing her own independent path.

But hey, never mind all that! Let's get ready for the No Kings rallies this weekend!

Many of us were huge fans and very excited in the beginning through the wedding, but once she turned into a stereotypical nightmare American sister/daughter in law, especially the trashy monetizing of family dirty laundry, we turned from huge fans to the opposite.

This. She has shown herself since leaving, and it isn't the person American's loved who married the prince. She seems to be terrible and directionless, and just motivated to make money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I doubt that anyone on this board can actually provide an informed analysis. No one here knows what it’s like to be:

—born into a family where you are told from day one what your career will be
—that your whole family belongs to a country
—that you have very little freedom to explore your interests if they’re not deemed appropriate
—that by law you can’t marry the person of your choosing without permission
—that your internal family matters will be monitored and manipulated by staff members with their own agenda
—that newspapers will openly print racist things about the person you love most
—that your spouse can’t seek clinical treatment for depression if necessary because it might make the family look bad

And on, and on. And yes, there are some people for whom a few of those things might be true, but not many for whom ALL of them are true. And before someone chimes in with all the perks and benefits of being part of the royal family, yes there are a lot.

I don’t defend everything they’ve done by a long shot. I don’t know them and neither do you. I am just mystified by people here making proclamations and analysis as if they do.

Didn't Prince William try to encourage Harry to get counseling? And also Meghan?