Initial boundary options for Crown/Damascus study

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I just can’t believe the amount of money spent on this analysis and the initial options are all garbage and make no sense. Can’t wait to see the next set on September.

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Anonymous wrote:To no one’s surprise, very little change to Churchill under any of the options.

Our neighborhood ends up going to Wootton in all four options. Minimal damage that shouldn't hurt home values (which is my only concern). Although if I had a kid in public school, I still wouldn't be thrilled about it.

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Anonymous wrote:I am having a very hard time looking at these maps. Maybe it’s because I’m on my phone. Is there any change to the Laytonsville articulation pattern?

Yes, depending on the option:

Option 1: Laytonsville ES - Neelsville MS - Gaithersburg HS

Option 2: no change/current cluster Laytonsville ES - Gaithersburg MS - Gaithersburg HS

Option 3: Laytonsville ES - Neelsville MS - Watkins Mill HS

Option 4: Laytonsville ES - Neelsville MS - Watkins Mill HS

---------------- no option for Baker/Damascus, which is what I hear most people in the Laytonsville area would like. I guess people will stick to private after ES, especially if Watkins Mill is chosen.

LES parent here- we will 100% be choosing private if WMHS is the new articulation. And I’m sure lots of other families will too. What a mess this is

[Anonymous]

Not sure I feel like sorting through all this confusing gobble-de-gook.

Just looking for a Cliff notes version: generally speaking, I bought west of 270 in large part to be in an elite school district surrounded with like minded people. If I live west of 270, am I generally safe to assume I’ll still be in an elite school district?

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure I feel like sorting through all this confusing gobble-de-gook.

Just looking for a Cliff notes version: generally speaking, I bought west of 270 in large part to be in an elite school district surrounded with like minded people. If I live west of 270, am I generally safe to assume I’ll still be in an elite school district?

look at the maps here: https://sites.google.com/mcpsmd.net/crowninitialoptions/home/crown-initial-options

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Anonymous wrote:Wow I did not realize some of those plans included keeping that Rio triangle in Wootton. Are they serious? They are going to build a school and not send walkers to it?

That’s how MCPS works

Walkers to Crown that live right across the street will get bussed to Wootton

Walkers to Wootton (literally the neighborhood right behind the stadium) get bused to Richard Montgomery.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure I feel like sorting through all this confusing gobble-de-gook.

Just looking for a Cliff notes version: generally speaking, I bought west of 270 in large part to be in an elite school district surrounded with like minded people. If I live west of 270, am I generally safe to assume I’ll still be in an elite school district?

No.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure I feel like sorting through all this confusing gobble-de-gook.

Just looking for a Cliff notes version: generally speaking, I bought west of 270 in large part to be in an elite school district surrounded with like minded people. If I live west of 270, am I generally safe to assume I’ll still be in an elite school district?

look at the maps here: https://sites.google.com/mcpsmd.net/crowninitialoptions/home/crown-initial-options

Not any more

Crown or Gaithersburg not good options

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure I feel like sorting through all this confusing gobble-de-gook.

Just looking for a Cliff notes version: generally speaking, I bought west of 270 in large part to be in an elite school district surrounded with like minded people. If I live west of 270, am I generally safe to assume I’ll still be in an elite school district?

All of MoCo is one school district.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure I feel like sorting through all this confusing gobble-de-gook.

Just looking for a Cliff notes version: generally speaking, I bought west of 270 in large part to be in an elite school district surrounded with like minded people. If I live west of 270, am I generally safe to assume I’ll still be in an elite school district?

Thanks everyone, this was me. I’ll have you know that I’ll still be in Wootton hope your kiddos enjoy your crime filled Gaithersburg and Crown HS experiences!

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Anonymous wrote:Suddenly, I feel like QO high school is shining great among all 4 options. It is within walking distance, no busing and kids stay together from ES/MS.

Great as long as you are not in Kentlands.

why

Busing the Kentlands to Gaithersburg or Crown is just absurd. Not that I’m not enjoying the maga there whose tiny racist brain cells are exploding about these new boundaries but because they are fiscally irresponsible of the county and stupid. Kentlands walks to QO there is no reality sending them to the other HS makes sense logistically or fiscally.

As for Dufief yes

As for Stonemill out of W again no because W is already under enrolled. And the mapping logic makes no sense either.

They will do the worst possible senerio people get ready for major bussing.

You realize parts of dufief, stone mill and Travilah of basically equidistant to Wootton? And Dufief has maybe 35 kids per grade TOTAL. Dufief is part of the Wootton community, has been since forever. They don’t want to move schools. Moving them doesn’t help anything. Wootton is under enrolled, as you said. Just leave dufief alone.

How about just leaving Wootton alone. Why does MCPS create 4 options just to generate fights between different ES within Wootton? That’s pure evil and community dividing. Crown is built to alleviate overcrowding of other schools and Wootton is not overcrowded. None of the four options change diversity of any school so just leave Wootton alone. Don’t make the poorer neighborhoods in Wootton to pay the price just to satisfy this diversity game.

In this case, which school neighborhood should zone to Crown HS?

Crown neighborhood, QO, RM, whatever left is overcrowded

Neighborhoods near Crown are currently zoned for Wootton. Makes sense to include it.

No that is only a bunch of townhouses and maybe some apartments. Not enough to play with Wooton. They should go to crown they are in waking distance but to take Stonemill out of wooton one of its largest feeders is stupid logistics. Wooton is under enrolled.

All four options added the whole Wayside ES to Wootton, so Wootton is not under-enrolled when that happens. Wayside doesn't want to go to Wootton anyways. They should leave both Churchill and Wootton alone.

100%. Leave them both alone! The overcapacity at Churchill is a bunch of bologna. My neighbors go there and say they don’t think it’s overcrowded at all. In fact it’s got like 50 more kids than it did a few years ago when there were no portables. Was just fine then!

Wootton/Churchill people please sign this petition to keep Wayside in Churchill which could help keep Wootton intact.
https://chng.it/SNLndcftLR

I'm happy to see people coming together to stand up against ideas that don't make any sense! On that note, for people who live in neighborhoods that are being cut away from the rest of their elementary/middle schools and sent to different high schools in some of these options (probably 2 and 4) - what are you doing to get the word out? Like others have said, this targeting of small neighborhoods makes it really hard to get your voice heard. In my neighborhood, I'm guessing a lot of people aren't paying attention to all this because they don't have school-aged kids, but it affects us all.

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Anonymous wrote:Moving Wayside out of Churchill helps with utilization. How else will they get Churchill below 100%?

It’s a BS utilization at Churchill. They’ve reduced capacity by 100 seats from when it first opened. What happened did the school shrink? Churchill has just had a period of a few years with higher enrollment which was consistently in lower figures and never had a portable until a year or two I believe. Kids there have stated it’s not crowded aside from the portable there’s no evidence to that.

Churchill parent here. There's no problem with Churchill being overcapacity. Yes, there are a couple of portables and I'm sure those teachers aren't excited about them. But I've never felt Churchill had too many kids generally. It's not hurting education or the social environment. And there's not much new construction in this area, so I wouldn't expect the problem to become worse in the next decade.

I have always wondered, though, why there are kids sooo far west that come to Churchill. Those are largely Wayside kids, and some Potomac kids. So yes, to drive from Wayside ES to Wootton HS, it may be about the same distance as going to from Wayside ES to Churchill HS. But a huge part of that geography is far closer to Wootton than to Churchill. Same with the Northern part of the Potomac ES boundaries. The culprit is that they're not looking at ES boundaries. I'd be interested in knowing the *average* student's bus time to both high schools-- there is certainly some house that is closer to Churchill and some house that is closer to Wootton. In sum, I think, capacity-wise, it would be fine for Wayside to continue to go to Churchill. But I think the quality of life for the average Wayside kid might improve by going to the closer school.

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Anonymous wrote:Moving Wayside out of Churchill helps with utilization. How else will they get Churchill below 100%?

It’s a BS utilization at Churchill. They’ve reduced capacity by 100 seats from when it first opened. What happened did the school shrink? Churchill has just had a period of a few years with higher enrollment which was consistently in lower figures and never had a portable until a year or two I believe. Kids there have stated it’s not crowded aside from the portable there’s no evidence to that.

Churchill parent here. There's no problem with Churchill being overcapacity. Yes, there are a couple of portables and I'm sure those teachers aren't excited about them. But I've never felt Churchill had too many kids generally. It's not hurting education or the social environment. And there's not much new construction in this area, so I wouldn't expect the problem to become worse in the next decade.

I have always wondered, though, why there are kids sooo far west that come to Churchill. Those are largely Wayside kids, and some Potomac kids. So yes, to drive from Wayside ES to Wootton HS, it may be about the same distance as going to from Wayside ES to Churchill HS. But a huge part of that geography is far closer to Wootton than to Churchill. Same with the Northern part of the Potomac ES boundaries. The culprit is that they're not looking at ES boundaries. I'd be interested in knowing the *average* student's bus time to both high schools-- there is certainly some house that is closer to Churchill and some house that is closer to Wootton. In sum, I think, capacity-wise, it would be fine for Wayside to continue to go to Churchill. But I think the quality of life for the average Wayside kid might improve by going to the closer school.

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Wayside going to Wootton should be the least controversial decision in entire boundary change. Wayside going to Wootton makes perfect sense. Folks who are arguing about leave this school or that school are missing the point. Boundaries will change when we have 2-3 near HS a same time. We can't leave schools.

No boundary will cover all bases, but positive outweighs negative in moving Wayside to Woottoon.

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I’m serious…

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Anonymous wrote:This is hands-down my favorite option! If only I could cast a vote for it right now—or better yet, nominate you to lead the BOE!

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Anonymous wrote:My bad, i read the table wrong. Yes, the numbers are all about the same.

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Anonymous wrote:Option 1&3: Churchill Asian increased from 33% to 37%, FARMS decreased from 10.9% to 9.9%. Wootton Asian increased from 37.4% to 43.2% and FARMS decreased from 13.4% to 11.9%.

I'm pretty sure the current options will exacerbate educational inequality, but I amsatisfied. I wonder can we reduce the FARMS to 5% or even lower for Churchill?

Are we looking at different data set? For all 4 options, Churchill Asian decrease from 37% to34.7% and farm from 9.9% to 9.8%.

Yes Wootton already the most Asian school becomes more so in all scenarios. WTF makes no sense. I have a ton of Asian friends so nothing wrong with it at all, but why further perpetuate the stereotype of Wootton and increase the nicknames for it.

All these Asian families you are talking about want to stay at Wootton. And you are speaking on behalf of them saying, "why perpetuate the stereotype?". HILARIOUS. Please say it to their face.

Far from it! Currently it’s like 37% Asian at Wootton. They should all stay there as Wootton shouldn’t be touched IMO.

My comment was saying it makes little sense to make the Asian population increase at Wootton and decrease at Churchill just to move Wayside ES as the only impacted school for Churchill to Wootton. Churchill and Wootton should be left alone just like Whitman. Other than that island that goes to Wootton I can see making sense at Crown, but even that if all those people wish to stay at Wootton which isn’t crowded just let them!

I can’t tell if you’re serious or joking?

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Some of you need to learn mapping skills

Wayside to Wootton vs Stonemill to Wooton

Wayside is farther away and if buses go the back way it’s dangerous. If they go falls road it’s longer.

Stonemill by car is 10 minutes to Wootton Google maps.

Stonemill to Crown 10 minutes to Wootton 10 min however kids can walk to Wootton from Stonemill mine have Crown not as easy.

I don’t particularly care as my kids are grown and I don’t need the money from my house.

However logistics if someone has a kid at Frost and a kid at Crown no that’s dumb logistically.


Whoever drew these maps dies not know how to read a map.