SSFS Will Stay Open

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like I said, you lack the self awareness to see the difference.

This is why I am asking you, how might someone express their dissatisfaction with ssfs and recommend to ppl to leave that you would find acceptable? Clearly if I knew I wouldn’t be asking. But you also don’t want to answer. Rephrase the following in what you would find acceptable

“Ssfs has provided no useful information to families in well over a year so trusting them now seems like a risk you shouldn’t take with your child’s education”.

I’m not making fun, I just want to know how ppl who hold that opinion can say so without coming across as condescending?

You seem to think you are talking to one person. You're not. I made the first comment that you took offense to. We're in the same situation. I'm choosing to listen to others while I ponder options. I haven't decided yet what our family will do.

You're choosing to lash out. I don't see advice as condescension. I fine it refreshing. Echo chambers are not good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like I said, you lack the self awareness to see the difference.

This is why I am asking you, how might someone express their dissatisfaction with ssfs and recommend to ppl to leave that you would find acceptable? Clearly if I knew I wouldn’t be asking. But you also don’t want to answer. Rephrase the following in what you would find acceptable

“Ssfs has provided no useful information to families in well over a year so trusting them now seems like a risk you shouldn’t take with your child’s education”.

I’m not making fun, I just want to know how ppl who hold that opinion can say so without coming across as condescending?

"SSFS has provided no useful information in well over a year so trusting them now isn't a risk *I'm* going to take with *my* child's education."

There you go. See the difference yet?

Okay so if people use the You pronoun that’s where it falls apart. It’s only ok if they say the school is a mess no way no how am I staying. Okay. I think that will help a lot of ppl. I really doubt when ppl say “you” they are targeting specific ppl, but if that’s all it is that works ppl up so much then okay. Everyone just post your concerns using first person pronouns, and then at least we can continue getting comments without people throwing emotional fits.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you've signed the new contract, congratulation! I love your optimism and hope SSFS succeeds for years and years.

If you're still waiting for answers in through that aren't forthcoming at this point, I think it's time to cut loose and find a different school for your child/ren. There will always be public school if none of the privates are a good fit or doesn't have openings at this point.

I'm still waiting for answers but I'll decide for myself when and if I think it's time to find a different school. And yes, I already know that public schools exist as an option.

Wow. Here’s the defensiveness again. We are both in the same boat but what was said is common sense. We all know what our options are, yes. I know emotions are high, but I find every single comment helpful as the deadline approaches. It’s not enviable to be in our place, but I too think that if there were answers, the bot would have divulged it by now.

Not defensive. Annoyed with the condescending comments. You literally told people it was time for them to seek alternatives for their children rather than post what you are thinking about for yourself. And you lack the self awareness to see the difference between the two types of posts. Posting *your* concerns and posting what *you're* thinking about for *your* family is interesting. Posting what concerns you think other should have and what you think others should do or should be thinking about is condescending.

Explain why it’s “condescending” when ppl suggest the school has problems and you should look elsewhere? It’s just their advice/observation. How can anyone ever say “this school is not doing well, get out while you can” if that’s what they think without being called condescending?

"This school is not doing well. *We* are getting our while*we* can. Versus "This school is not doing well, get out while you can."

Come on people it's not that hard to see the difference.

[Anonymous]

(yawn)

[Anonymous]

Do you think the school will get to 275? 495 were enrolled when it shut down per the HOS.

I counted on slack how many people have posted on why we are staying and it’s about 50.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is no way.

They are making decisions with their hearts—understandably.

They do not want to be confronted with the facts or the many holes in the coalition/board “plan”

I would never make a decision like this with my heart. My kid needs an education, there are objectives measures to what is a successful school. I’d be crazy to use my heart/gut for this. My kid will not thank me for that.

I’ve used only first person pronouns, so I’m not being condescending.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you think the school will get to 275? 495 were enrolled when it shut down per the HOS.

I counted on slack how many people have posted on why we are staying and it’s about 50.

I do because I think the upper school alone will get the school to 200. From my understanding, very few rising 10th, 11th, and 12th graders are leaving. That should be over 150 right there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like I said, you lack the self awareness to see the difference.

This is why I am asking you, how might someone express their dissatisfaction with ssfs and recommend to ppl to leave that you would find acceptable? Clearly if I knew I wouldn’t be asking. But you also don’t want to answer. Rephrase the following in what you would find acceptable

“Ssfs has provided no useful information to families in well over a year so trusting them now seems like a risk you shouldn’t take with your child’s education”.

I’m not making fun, I just want to know how ppl who hold that opinion can say so without coming across as condescending?

"SSFS has provided no useful information in well over a year so trusting them now isn't a risk *I'm* going to take with *my* child's education."

There you go. See the difference yet?

Okay so if people use the You pronoun that’s where it falls apart. It’s only ok if they say the school is a mess no way no how am I staying. Okay. I think that will help a lot of ppl. I really doubt when ppl say “you” they are targeting specific ppl, but if that’s all it is that works ppl up so much then okay. Everyone just post your concerns using first person pronouns, and then at least we can continue getting comments without people throwing emotional fits.

Emotional fits describes all the responses to the OPs distinction between telling us what you're thinking about for yourself and telling people how you think they should think. Absolute spiral.

[Anonymous]

Is it possible for families that would like to return (but are still fearful) to collaboratively create a list of items that their reenrollment would be contingent on? With an option to recieve their deposits back if the school fails to meet these contingencies by a certain date?

The standard contract would have been acceptable under normal circumstances. Circumstances are no longer normal. The school and other families might be able to guage the enrollment (find solace, or lack there of, in the number) and staffing estimates in this way.

Contingencies might include things like a minimum enrollment—specific to each grade, publication of the past years’ 990 forms to the community, a minimum number of dedicated full-time teachers per student, etc. etc. These are just off the top of my head.

The reality is that emotions are high here because there is too much uncertainty (BOT silence on issues that matter). For all the SSFS families this is an emotional and high-stakes financial decision. There needs to be a way families can express their commitments with some legal assurances. The school could hire a lawyer to adapt the contract for this year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:(yawn)

(fart) just injecting some middle school humor into the situation for my own giggles.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is it possible for families that would like to return (but are still fearful) to collaboratively create a list of items that their reenrollment would be contingent on? With an option to recieve their deposits back if the school fails to meet these contingencies by a certain date?

The standard contract would have been acceptable under normal circumstances. Circumstances are no longer normal. The school and other families might be able to guage the enrollment (find solace, or lack there of, in the number) and staffing estimates in this way.

Contingencies might include things like a minimum enrollment—specific to each grade, publication of the past years’ 990 forms to the community, a minimum number of dedicated full-time teachers per student, etc. etc. These are just off the top of my head.

The reality is that emotions are high here because there is too much uncertainty (BOT silence on issues that matter). For all the SSFS families this is an emotional and high-stakes financial decision. There needs to be a way families can express their commitments with some legal assurances. The school could hire a lawyer to adapt the contract for this year.

I understand but I think that would set a precedent that no school would want to set.

[Anonymous]

Without trust, shared real data, or a contingent contract, they are asking families to bet their child’s academic year AND $45,000 on red.

[Anonymous]

Okay ladies, please chill. If you are at SSFS then you would know that we still have over a week to hear more information from the school and board and make our own decisions. Fighting online is not helping anyone make a decision I assure you. Everyone will do what is best for their child and family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is it possible for families that would like to return (but are still fearful) to collaboratively create a list of items that their reenrollment would be contingent on? With an option to recieve their deposits back if the school fails to meet these contingencies by a certain date?

The standard contract would have been acceptable under normal circumstances. Circumstances are no longer normal. The school and other families might be able to guage the enrollment (find solace, or lack there of, in the number) and staffing estimates in this way.

Contingencies might include things like a minimum enrollment—specific to each grade, publication of the past years’ 990 forms to the community, a minimum number of dedicated full-time teachers per student, etc. etc. These are just off the top of my head.

The reality is that emotions are high here because there is too much uncertainty (BOT silence on issues that matter). For all the SSFS families this is an emotional and high-stakes financial decision. There needs to be a way families can express their commitments with some legal assurances. The school could hire a lawyer to adapt the contract for this year.

Contracts have been issued and we have 10 days to reply. I doubt we can add conditions. But what you say sounds reasonable. But it can’t happen. We need to make the decision based on what’s in the contract now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Okay ladies, please chill. If you are at SSFS then you would know that we still have over a week to hear more information from the school and board and make our own decisions. Fighting online is not helping anyone make a decision I assure you. Everyone will do what is best for their child and family.

Over a week to hear information that hasn’t come in over a year. I’m sure not basing my decision on that information.