Hunter Biden indicted on nine tax charges, adding to gun charges in special counsel probe

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Anonymous wrote:They are using admissions that he made in a memoir about his recovery to prosecute him for an old victimless crime because Republicans demanded it. This is not something that would happen if he were anyone else.

This crime is no different than what Marilyn Mosby or Trump were prosecuted for, false declarations.

No one disputes that he claimed to not abuse drugs on the form. No one disputes that his book proves that this was a false declaration. The fact that his book is about his struggles with addiction irrelevant.


You are delusional. Trump didn’t just lie on a form. He committed election fraud and tax fraud.

What is tax fraud? He misrepresented his business costs on tax forms.


He disguised a reimbursement to his coconspirator for hush money that had been paid to benefit his campaign as a tax deductible expense for legal services. That’s business fraud to commit tax fraud and campaign finance fraud.

Exactly. And Hunter Biden misrepresented his drug use on a legal form in order to purchase a gun that he would not otherwise have been legally allowed to purchase.

Not really. The form asks if you are “addict” or “have an addiction”.

Did Hunter think of himself as an addict at that time or just somebody who used drugs? The prosecution is going to have to prove the former. Very gray area.

of course if the jury decides to acquit or is hung, MAGA heads will explode.


This is so stupid. If it is not an objective standard then there is no point to the declaration. He was in fact a drug addict. End of story.

It is not so different than declaring that you will reside in a home in order to receive a conforming mortgage. It doesn’t matter what your belief or intent is, what matters is what you do.
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Anonymous wrote:They are using admissions that he made in a memoir about his recovery to prosecute him for an old victimless crime because Republicans demanded it. This is not something that would happen if he were anyone else.

This crime is no different than what Marilyn Mosby or Trump were prosecuted for, false declarations.

No one disputes that he claimed to not abuse drugs on the form. No one disputes that his book proves that this was a false declaration. The fact that his book is about his struggles with addiction irrelevant.


You are delusional. Trump didn’t just lie on a form. He committed election fraud and tax fraud.

What is tax fraud? He misrepresented his business costs on tax forms.


He disguised a reimbursement to his coconspirator for hush money that had been paid to benefit his campaign as a tax deductible expense for legal services. That’s business fraud to commit tax fraud and campaign finance fraud.

Exactly. And Hunter Biden misrepresented his drug use on a legal form in order to purchase a gun that he would not otherwise have been legally allowed to purchase.

Not really. The form asks if you are “addict” or “have an addiction”.

Did Hunter think of himself as an addict at that time or just somebody who used drugs? The prosecution is going to have to prove the former. Very gray area.

of course if the jury decides to acquit or is hung, MAGA heads will explode.


This is so stupid. If it is not an objective standard then there is no point to the declaration. He was in fact a drug addict. End of story.

It is not so different than declaring that you will reside in a home in order to receive a conforming mortgage. It doesn’t matter what your belief or intent is, what matters is what you do.

No, it’s not a stupid argument. Hunter had been in rehab prior to purchasing the gun. He truly could’ve been thinking he was over using. Anyway, we can say as much as we want to say, but the only people who decide on this 12 every day Americans. I don’t like this case, but I’ll standby with the jury put forth and then I will let the appeals process out.
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My prediction:

Hung jury/jury nullification.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:They are using admissions that he made in a memoir about his recovery to prosecute him for an old victimless crime because Republicans demanded it. This is not something that would happen if he were anyone else.

This crime is no different than what Marilyn Mosby or Trump were prosecuted for, false declarations.

No one disputes that he claimed to not abuse drugs on the form. No one disputes that his book proves that this was a false declaration. The fact that his book is about his struggles with addiction irrelevant.


You are delusional. Trump didn’t just lie on a form. He committed election fraud and tax fraud.

What is tax fraud? He misrepresented his business costs on tax forms.


He disguised a reimbursement to his coconspirator for hush money that had been paid to benefit his campaign as a tax deductible expense for legal services. That’s business fraud to commit tax fraud and campaign finance fraud.

Exactly. And Hunter Biden misrepresented his drug use on a legal form in order to purchase a gun that he would not otherwise have been legally allowed to purchase.

Not really. The form asks if you are “addict” or “have an addiction”.

Did Hunter think of himself as an addict at that time or just somebody who used drugs? The prosecution is going to have to prove the former. Very gray area.

of course if the jury decides to acquit or is hung, MAGA heads will explode.


This is so stupid. If it is not an objective standard then there is no point to the declaration. He was in fact a drug addict. End of story.

It is not so different than declaring that you will reside in a home in order to receive a conforming mortgage. It doesn’t matter what your belief or intent is, what matters is what you do.


Of course it matters what your intent is. The false statement has to be willful in order to be a crime.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They are using admissions that he made in a memoir about his recovery to prosecute him for an old victimless crime because Republicans demanded it. This is not something that would happen if he were anyone else.

This crime is no different than what Marilyn Mosby or Trump were prosecuted for, false declarations.

No one disputes that he claimed to not abuse drugs on the form. No one disputes that his book proves that this was a false declaration. The fact that his book is about his struggles with addiction irrelevant.


You are delusional. Trump didn’t just lie on a form. He committed election fraud and tax fraud.

What is tax fraud? He misrepresented his business costs on tax forms.


He disguised a reimbursement to his coconspirator for hush money that had been paid to benefit his campaign as a tax deductible expense for legal services. That’s business fraud to commit tax fraud and campaign finance fraud.

Exactly. And Hunter Biden misrepresented his drug use on a legal form in order to purchase a gun that he would not otherwise have been legally allowed to purchase.

Not really. The form asks if you are “addict” or “have an addiction”.

Did Hunter think of himself as an addict at that time or just somebody who used drugs? The prosecution is going to have to prove the former. Very gray area.

of course if the jury decides to acquit or is hung, MAGA heads will explode.


This is so stupid. If it is not an objective standard then there is no point to the declaration. He was in fact a drug addict. End of story.

It is not so different than declaring that you will reside in a home in order to receive a conforming mortgage. It doesn’t matter what your belief or intent is, what matters is what you do.


You've got it backwards. Residency is about intent, not about what you do - if you change your mind the next day.
Anonymous
Jury will reconvene deliberations tomorrow. If you want Biden to win in November you better hope they return a guilty verdict. Otherwise the guy screaming “it’s rigged” is going to win in a landslide.
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So the prosecutor said that going to rehab is an admission/acknowledgement of being an addict? IOW, discouraging anyone from ever going to rehab?

This prosecution is so ill-advised. Everything about it. Everything.
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Anonymous wrote:Jury will reconvene deliberations tomorrow. If you want Biden to win in November you better hope they return a guilty verdict. Otherwise the guy screaming “it’s rigged” is going to win in a landslide.

Do you even hear yourself? I don’t give a 💩 what Trump says.

The prosecution made their case. I think it’s weak. But whatever. The jury of 12 everyday people will make the judgement.

Should we dox them and insist they convict, regardless of their findings so MAGA doesn’t have a tantrum?
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Anonymous wrote:So the prosecutor said that going to rehab is an admission/acknowledgement of being an addict?


How is it not? Do you think non addicts go to rehab? Or to be more specific, do you think addicts should have a gun? Part of rehabilitation is acknowledging you have a problem and yes, that means recognizing you shouldn’t acquire a gun. I mean, this is pure common sense.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They are using admissions that he made in a memoir about his recovery to prosecute him for an old victimless crime because Republicans demanded it. This is not something that would happen if he were anyone else.

This crime is no different than what Marilyn Mosby or Trump were prosecuted for, false declarations.

No one disputes that he claimed to not abuse drugs on the form. No one disputes that his book proves that this was a false declaration. The fact that his book is about his struggles with addiction irrelevant.


You are delusional. Trump didn’t just lie on a form. He committed election fraud and tax fraud.

What is tax fraud? He misrepresented his business costs on tax forms.


He disguised a reimbursement to his coconspirator for hush money that had been paid to benefit his campaign as a tax deductible expense for legal services. That’s business fraud to commit tax fraud and campaign finance fraud.

Exactly. And Hunter Biden misrepresented his drug use on a legal form in order to purchase a gun that he would not otherwise have been legally allowed to purchase.

Not really. The form asks if you are “addict” or “have an addiction”.

Did Hunter think of himself as an addict at that time or just somebody who used drugs? The prosecution is going to have to prove the former. Very gray area.

of course if the jury decides to acquit or is hung, MAGA heads will explode.


This is so stupid. If it is not an objective standard then there is no point to the declaration. He was in fact a drug addict. End of story.

It is not so different than declaring that you will reside in a home in order to receive a conforming mortgage. It doesn’t matter what your belief or intent is, what matters is what you do.


He had just finished a stint in rehab in and maybe he did think he was clean.
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Anonymous wrote:My prediction:

Hung jury/jury nullification.


If so, I never want to hear the left talk about “common sense gun control” ever again.
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Anonymous wrote:See, here's the thing: if Hunter Biden is convicted, he'll go to jail (or get probation, who knows). There will be no storming of the Capitol, no threats to indict DAs for....something, no screaming about the "weaponization of the DOJ".

And I won't vote for Hunter Biden.


The weaponization occurred with the plea deal that came about after the statute of limitations for more serious charges were allowed to run out.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They are using admissions that he made in a memoir about his recovery to prosecute him for an old victimless crime because Republicans demanded it. This is not something that would happen if he were anyone else.

This crime is no different than what Marilyn Mosby or Trump were prosecuted for, false declarations.

No one disputes that he claimed to not abuse drugs on the form. No one disputes that his book proves that this was a false declaration. The fact that his book is about his struggles with addiction irrelevant.


You are delusional. Trump didn’t just lie on a form. He committed election fraud and tax fraud.

What is tax fraud? He misrepresented his business costs on tax forms.


He disguised a reimbursement to his coconspirator for hush money that had been paid to benefit his campaign as a tax deductible expense for legal services. That’s business fraud to commit tax fraud and campaign finance fraud.

Exactly. And Hunter Biden misrepresented his drug use on a legal form in order to purchase a gun that he would not otherwise have been legally allowed to purchase.

Not really. The form asks if you are “addict” or “have an addiction”.

Did Hunter think of himself as an addict at that time or just somebody who used drugs? The prosecution is going to have to prove the former. Very gray area.

of course if the jury decides to acquit or is hung, MAGA heads will explode.


This is so stupid. If it is not an objective standard then there is no point to the declaration. He was in fact a drug addict. End of story.

It is not so different than declaring that you will reside in a home in order to receive a conforming mortgage. It doesn’t matter what your belief or intent is, what matters is what you do.

No, it’s not a stupid argument. Hunter had been in rehab prior to purchasing the gun. He truly could’ve been thinking he was over using. Anyway, we can say as much as we want to say, but the only people who decide on this 12 every day Americans. I don’t like this case, but I’ll standby with the jury put forth and then I will let the appeals process out.


Having gone to rehab - what - half a dozen times or so? - he should know better than anyone that he is an addict. This is one of the first things they learn in rehab.
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Anonymous wrote:My prediction:

Hung jury/jury nullification.


If so, I never want to hear the left talk about “common sense gun control” ever again.


No. The left thinks he should be found guilty. Then it sets a strong precedent to convict at the federal level every other gun purchaser who is addicted. Excellent first step.
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Anonymous wrote:My prediction:

Hung jury/jury nullification.


If so, I never want to hear the left talk about “common sense gun control” ever again.

Oh yeh, like this is a fair or legitimate trial.

Prosecution: "Nobody is above the law!"
EXCEPTION: Hallie Biden went into Hunter’s truck, broke into the lockbox, stole his gun then proceeded to throw it out in a public trash can.
EXCEPTION: The gun shop BROKE THE LAW by selling gun without proper ID. The gun shop owner amended the form years after the fact.
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