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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Also Maury ranked at the bottom of funding per student last year. Literally last place.

And again, the “robust PTA fundraising” was cited as a reason why.

Our fundraising has screwed us yet again.

Please don't be dramatic. I think the cluster is a bad idea but you sound ridiculous.

Maury ranks low on per student funding because it has very low percentages of SpEd and at risk kids. That's it. The school is full of kids who are well supported at home, on or above grade level, and without a lot of learning disorders or risk factors like poverty and housing insecurity. Kids at Maury do fine with this lower per-student funding not because the PTO is making up the difference but because they do not need the things that extra funding pays for.

You probably don't understand this because you have never had a child at a school in DC with a high SpEd and at-risk population, so you don't understand that a lot of the services that high per-pupil funding pays for are things you don't need anyway, like special transportation for kids coming from shelters, remedial tutoring starting in kindergarten to address delays that should have been caught and addressed years prior, etc.

You can oppose the cluster without trying to make it sound like students at Maury are being deprived of precious resources within DCPS. Students at Maury want for very little and PTO funding goes to pay for things that most DCPS students don't get at all.

There are kids at Maury absolutely not getting what they need. Not all Maury students “want for very little.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Devil's advocate, but these are the same kids who will later be their classmates at EH. Wouldn't it be better to get them in earlier? If anything, the few kids at Miner who are at grade level or borderline, would certainly benefit from a more rigorous school. Maury kids won't unlearn things just because their peers aren't performing. That's how they are selling EH right now at least.

Almost half of the Maury 4th grade leaves to go to Basis, Latin, etc; they don't go on to EH. These are many of the top students at Maury.

And many of those Maury kids that don't get into Basis, Latin, or an acceptable PCS move or go private.

Does anyone have the numbers for the # of Maury kids per grade at E-H? Or even more detailed, 4th grade at Maury AND 6th grade at E-H?

The # of Maury kids per grade at Eastern?

I'm guessing it's quite low and the cluster would be a temporary band-aid for DCPS to improve #'s for Minor on paper but have worse long term results for Maury and Minor.

Most of the Maury 5th grade goes to EH and yes that includes some “top students” lol. (The lottery cannot select for “top students.”)

Sure, but some "top students" self-select for the lottery.

+1. Also, the numbers are already pretty low by 5th grade. You have over 80 in a class in the earlier grades, and a ton of departures in 4th grade. So, most Maury students to do not continue onto EH.

2/3s went to EH this year. From 3 4th grade classes to a majority of 2 5th grade classes. EH had a big enrollment bump!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also Maury ranked at the bottom of funding per student last year. Literally last place.

And again, the “robust PTA fundraising” was cited as a reason why.

Our fundraising has screwed us yet again.

Please don't be dramatic. I think the cluster is a bad idea but you sound ridiculous.

Maury ranks low on per student funding because it has very low percentages of SpEd and at risk kids. That's it. The school is full of kids who are well supported at home, on or above grade level, and without a lot of learning disorders or risk factors like poverty and housing insecurity. Kids at Maury do fine with this lower per-student funding not because the PTO is making up the difference but because they do not need the things that extra funding pays for.

You probably don't understand this because you have never had a child at a school in DC with a high SpEd and at-risk population, so you don't understand that a lot of the services that high per-pupil funding pays for are things you don't need anyway, like special transportation for kids coming from shelters, remedial tutoring starting in kindergarten to address delays that should have been caught and addressed years prior, etc.

You can oppose the cluster without trying to make it sound like students at Maury are being deprived of precious resources within DCPS. Students at Maury want for very little and PTO funding goes to pay for things that most DCPS students don't get at all.

But without that snarky comment, where would you espouse your daily sanctimonious rant?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also Maury ranked at the bottom of funding per student last year. Literally last place.

And again, the “robust PTA fundraising” was cited as a reason why.

Our fundraising has screwed us yet again.

Please don't be dramatic. I think the cluster is a bad idea but you sound ridiculous.

Maury ranks low on per student funding because it has very low percentages of SpEd and at risk kids. That's it. The school is full of kids who are well supported at home, on or above grade level, and without a lot of learning disorders or risk factors like poverty and housing insecurity. Kids at Maury do fine with this lower per-student funding not because the PTO is making up the difference but because they do not need the things that extra funding pays for.

You probably don't understand this because you have never had a child at a school in DC with a high SpEd and at-risk population, so you don't understand that a lot of the services that high per-pupil funding pays for are things you don't need anyway, like special transportation for kids coming from shelters, remedial tutoring starting in kindergarten to address delays that should have been caught and addressed years prior, etc.

You can oppose the cluster without trying to make it sound like students at Maury are being deprived of precious resources within DCPS. Students at Maury want for very little and PTO funding goes to pay for things that most DCPS students don't get at all.

There are kids at Maury absolutely not getting what they need. Not all Maury students “want for very little.”

What needs are there are Maury that are not currently being met (that can be met with additional funding)?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also Maury ranked at the bottom of funding per student last year. Literally last place.

And again, the “robust PTA fundraising” was cited as a reason why.

Our fundraising has screwed us yet again.

Please don't be dramatic. I think the cluster is a bad idea but you sound ridiculous.

Maury ranks low on per student funding because it has very low percentages of SpEd and at risk kids. That's it. The school is full of kids who are well supported at home, on or above grade level, and without a lot of learning disorders or risk factors like poverty and housing insecurity. Kids at Maury do fine with this lower per-student funding not because the PTO is making up the difference but because they do not need the things that extra funding pays for.

You probably don't understand this because you have never had a child at a school in DC with a high SpEd and at-risk population, so you don't understand that a lot of the services that high per-pupil funding pays for are things you don't need anyway, like special transportation for kids coming from shelters, remedial tutoring starting in kindergarten to address delays that should have been caught and addressed years prior, etc.

You can oppose the cluster without trying to make it sound like students at Maury are being deprived of precious resources within DCPS. Students at Maury want for very little and PTO funding goes to pay for things that most DCPS students don't get at all.

There are kids at Maury absolutely not getting what they need. Not all Maury students “want for very little.”

What needs are there are Maury that are not currently being met (that can be met with additional funding)?

More special ed staff, behavioral support staff and training, interventionists…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also Maury ranked at the bottom of funding per student last year. Literally last place.

And again, the “robust PTA fundraising” was cited as a reason why.

Our fundraising has screwed us yet again.

Please don't be dramatic. I think the cluster is a bad idea but you sound ridiculous.

Maury ranks low on per student funding because it has very low percentages of SpEd and at risk kids. That's it. The school is full of kids who are well supported at home, on or above grade level, and without a lot of learning disorders or risk factors like poverty and housing insecurity. Kids at Maury do fine with this lower per-student funding not because the PTO is making up the difference but because they do not need the things that extra funding pays for.

You probably don't understand this because you have never had a child at a school in DC with a high SpEd and at-risk population, so you don't understand that a lot of the services that high per-pupil funding pays for are things you don't need anyway, like special transportation for kids coming from shelters, remedial tutoring starting in kindergarten to address delays that should have been caught and addressed years prior, etc.

You can oppose the cluster without trying to make it sound like students at Maury are being deprived of precious resources within DCPS. Students at Maury want for very little and PTO funding goes to pay for things that most DCPS students don't get at all.

There are kids at Maury absolutely not getting what they need. Not all Maury students “want for very little.”

What needs are there are Maury that are not currently being met (that can be met with additional funding)?

More special ed staff, behavioral support staff and training, interventionists…

All of this, plus another 4th grade teacher.

[Anonymous]

Don’t understand how this idea meets the boundary study’s three stated goals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There’s been a ton of focus on Maury.

What does the Miner community think about all this?

We’re IB (currently, at least) for Maury. But we’re at Miner. Reading through the pages and pages of this thread, you’d think the world was ending. The fact remains that the single most important thing for your child’s development is - you. The support and security you provide at home, you reinforcing the lessons they’re being taught in school, and your overall involvement and commitment in their educational journey.

If you continue to care about your kids education and be involved (which all of you are here fervently commenting, so you’re obviously passionate), a cluster won’t negatively impact your child. It just won’t. It’s elementary school. Chill out a bit, maybe go outside and touch some grass.

A lot of comments here are just so detached from reality and are condescending towards us lowlifes allegedly suffering at Miner. But what do I know, because of the educational path I’ve placed my kid on at Miner they’re probably destined to max out at some mediocre community college and live paycheck to paycheck. It’s also a miracle we haven’t been gunned down on the way to/from school. Based on these comments, maybe we’ll start commuting via armored vehicle.

But seriously, this thread just reaffirms my belief that maybe Maury is full of a bunch of NIMBY blow hards that I’d rather not expose my kids to - apple doesn’t fall far from the tree and many of you seem pretty insufferable. Have a nice night - hope to see you at a cluster-PTA meeting next year! Or wait, you won’t be there because you’ll white-flight the heck out of dodge, move to a suburb, and terrorize some other PTA. Good riddance!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s been a ton of focus on Maury.

What does the Miner community think about all this?

We’re IB (currently, at least) for Maury. But we’re at Miner. Reading through the pages and pages of this thread, you’d think the world was ending. The fact remains that the single most important thing for your child’s development is - you. The support and security you provide at home, you reinforcing the lessons they’re being taught in school, and your overall involvement and commitment in their educational journey.

If you continue to care about your kids education and be involved (which all of you are here fervently commenting, so you’re obviously passionate), a cluster won’t negatively impact your child. It just won’t. It’s elementary school. Chill out a bit, maybe go outside and touch some grass.

A lot of comments here are just so detached from reality and are condescending towards us lowlifes allegedly suffering at Miner. But what do I know, because of the educational path I’ve placed my kid on at Miner they’re probably destined to max out at some mediocre community college and live paycheck to paycheck. It’s also a miracle we haven’t been gunned down on the way to/from school. Based on these comments, maybe we’ll start commuting via armored vehicle.

But seriously, this thread just reaffirms my belief that maybe Maury is full of a bunch of NIMBY blow hards that I’d rather not expose my kids to - apple doesn’t fall far from the tree and many of you seem pretty insufferable. Have a nice night - hope to see you at a cluster-PTA meeting next year! Or wait, you won’t be there because you’ll white-flight the heck out of dodge, move to a suburb, and terrorize some other PTA. Good riddance!

How old is your child?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also Maury ranked at the bottom of funding per student last year. Literally last place.

And again, the “robust PTA fundraising” was cited as a reason why.

Our fundraising has screwed us yet again.

Please don't be dramatic. I think the cluster is a bad idea but you sound ridiculous.

Maury ranks low on per student funding because it has very low percentages of SpEd and at risk kids. That's it. The school is full of kids who are well supported at home, on or above grade level, and without a lot of learning disorders or risk factors like poverty and housing insecurity. Kids at Maury do fine with this lower per-student funding not because the PTO is making up the difference but because they do not need the things that extra funding pays for.

You probably don't understand this because you have never had a child at a school in DC with a high SpEd and at-risk population, so you don't understand that a lot of the services that high per-pupil funding pays for are things you don't need anyway, like special transportation for kids coming from shelters, remedial tutoring starting in kindergarten to address delays that should have been caught and addressed years prior, etc.

You can oppose the cluster without trying to make it sound like students at Maury are being deprived of precious resources within DCPS. Students at Maury want for very little and PTO funding goes to pay for things that most DCPS students don't get at all.

So all the NW schools have higher percentages of SpEd and at risk kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s been a ton of focus on Maury.

What does the Miner community think about all this?

We’re IB (currently, at least) for Maury. But we’re at Miner. Reading through the pages and pages of this thread, you’d think the world was ending. The fact remains that the single most important thing for your child’s development is - you. The support and security you provide at home, you reinforcing the lessons they’re being taught in school, and your overall involvement and commitment in their educational journey.

If you continue to care about your kids education and be involved (which all of you are here fervently commenting, so you’re obviously passionate), a cluster won’t negatively impact your child. It just won’t. It’s elementary school. Chill out a bit, maybe go outside and touch some grass.

A lot of comments here are just so detached from reality and are condescending towards us lowlifes allegedly suffering at Miner. But what do I know, because of the educational path I’ve placed my kid on at Miner they’re probably destined to max out at some mediocre community college and live paycheck to paycheck. It’s also a miracle we haven’t been gunned down on the way to/from school. Based on these comments, maybe we’ll start commuting via armored vehicle.

But seriously, this thread just reaffirms my belief that maybe Maury is full of a bunch of NIMBY blow hards that I’d rather not expose my kids to - apple doesn’t fall far from the tree and many of you seem pretty insufferable. Have a nice night - hope to see you at a cluster-PTA meeting next year! Or wait, you won’t be there because you’ll white-flight the heck out of dodge, move to a suburb, and terrorize some other PTA. Good riddance!

I am not a Maury parent. But you could not more obviously be an ECE parent. Maybe some self reflection before you call others insufferable.

[Anonymous]

It’s almost like DCPS does not want to have highly functional schools exist within the system. They want to destroy what is currently working rather than learn from and emulate the functional school. The whole situation is ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also Maury ranked at the bottom of funding per student last year. Literally last place.

And again, the “robust PTA fundraising” was cited as a reason why.

Our fundraising has screwed us yet again.

Please don't be dramatic. I think the cluster is a bad idea but you sound ridiculous.

Maury ranks low on per student funding because it has very low percentages of SpEd and at risk kids. That's it. The school is full of kids who are well supported at home, on or above grade level, and without a lot of learning disorders or risk factors like poverty and housing insecurity. Kids at Maury do fine with this lower per-student funding not because the PTO is making up the difference but because they do not need the things that extra funding pays for.

You probably don't understand this because you have never had a child at a school in DC with a high SpEd and at-risk population, so you don't understand that a lot of the services that high per-pupil funding pays for are things you don't need anyway, like special transportation for kids coming from shelters, remedial tutoring starting in kindergarten to address delays that should have been caught and addressed years prior, etc.

You can oppose the cluster without trying to make it sound like students at Maury are being deprived of precious resources within DCPS. Students at Maury want for very little and PTO funding goes to pay for things that most DCPS students don't get at all.

So all the NW schools have higher percentages of SpEd and at risk kids?

Maury has no truly self contained classrooms (CES or ILS/OLS) only the HFA program. That’s incredibly unusual, yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also Maury ranked at the bottom of funding per student last year. Literally last place.

And again, the “robust PTA fundraising” was cited as a reason why.

Our fundraising has screwed us yet again.

Please don't be dramatic. I think the cluster is a bad idea but you sound ridiculous.

Maury ranks low on per student funding because it has very low percentages of SpEd and at risk kids. That's it. The school is full of kids who are well supported at home, on or above grade level, and without a lot of learning disorders or risk factors like poverty and housing insecurity. Kids at Maury do fine with this lower per-student funding not because the PTO is making up the difference but because they do not need the things that extra funding pays for.

You probably don't understand this because you have never had a child at a school in DC with a high SpEd and at-risk population, so you don't understand that a lot of the services that high per-pupil funding pays for are things you don't need anyway, like special transportation for kids coming from shelters, remedial tutoring starting in kindergarten to address delays that should have been caught and addressed years prior, etc.

You can oppose the cluster without trying to make it sound like students at Maury are being deprived of precious resources within DCPS. Students at Maury want for very little and PTO funding goes to pay for things that most DCPS students don't get at all.

So all the NW schools have higher percentages of SpEd and at risk kids?

Maury has no truly self contained classrooms (CES or ILS/OLS) only the HFA program. That’s incredibly unusual, yes.

Maury doesn’t have an HFA program. It has no self-contained programs. And it likely under-identifies kids with disabilities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s almost like DCPS does not want to have highly functional schools exist within the system. They want to destroy what is currently working rather than learn from and emulate the functional school. The whole situation is ridiculous.

Notably they also have no plan for helping Miner.