Maury Capitol Hill

Anonymous
Apparently there was a PTA meeting today about the boundary lines getting redrawn. Is this likely to happen? Apparently there are issues with not getting free lunches and additional funding since the area has grown more affluent.

I’m curious what this could mean for home values and the school overall?
Anonymous
We can never just have nice things in Ward 6.
Anonymous
I am not a Maury parent so I was not at the meeting, but I am part of the Boundary Review Committee, and there are some upcoming townhalls, so that may be what they were talking about. The committee is working through the end of this year and will submit recommendations to the Mayor in 2024.

From the DME:
"Next week, we will host a series of virtual town hall meetings to get input from members of the community on the Boundary and Student Assignment Study project. The town hall meetings will be hosted on:

Tuesday, September 26 at 12 p.m. - 1:30 p.m. To Register: https://us06web.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_vTpEyHkkR6CTSeVJcdE21A.
Wednesday, September 27 at 6 p.m. - 7:30 p.m. To Register: [url]https://us06web.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_KBLDV14HSSilXWn9JJ97PQ
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Participants will review the landscape of DCPS boundaries and student assignment analysis, provide feedback on potential policy tools, and receive an introduction to the online web tool. Both town hall sessions will cover the same information."
Anonymous
Losing Title I is a big loss for schools, and Maury (and other Ward 6 elementary) boundaries are pretty weird.
Anonymous
Does anyone know how recently Maury lost its Title 1 status? It was fairly recent, yes?

So basically if you bought within the last 5 years you might feel screwed over but it's not even clear there would be negative impacts -- they can redraw the boundary but I think Maury would remain a desirable school because of it's location.

I think the only people who would be really mad would be people who paid a premium for Maury with the expectation it would be their IB and then get redistricted to Miner or Payne. But this would be such a tiny group of people. If there are good reasons to move the boundaries based on balancing populations, well, that's how it goes sometimes. Look at all the people in Hill East who bought homes in Ward 6 and suddenly live in Ward 7. It happens.
Anonymous
What will the new boundaries for Maury likely be?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Losing Title I is a big loss for schools, and Maury (and other Ward 6 elementary) boundaries are pretty weird.


+1, Maury's boundary is the weirdest. When we were house hunting, I discovered how weird and narrow it is. I actually feel like most Hill schools have relatively sensible boundaries except for the Cluster which makes very little sense at all and even less given that it's really two school that are nowhere near each other.

But yeah, there are some very good reasons to redraw boundaries on the Hill to make Maury and the Cluster make more sense as neighborhood schools. But it's going to really piss people off because there has been a hefty premium for Maury houses the last 6 years or so, but especially since 2000. I do think it has to be done though, and delaying is only going to make it more painful.
Anonymous
It sounds like the Maury boundary would move further East if TPTB thinks the present boundary is over-gentrified. Maybe the people who need to worry are those on the western side of the Maury boundary.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What will the new boundaries for Maury likely be?


No one really knows and it's possibly there won't be a new boundary. The committee is working throughout the year and is supposed to issue "recommendations" at the end of the year (or early 2024) based on both research and community feedback. But the recommendations don't have to be followed either. They will take into account school size and utilization, demographics, demographic trends, and a host of other factors.

There are arguments for shifting Maury's boundary so that it makes more sense in terms of both Maury and Miner serving the neighborhood surrounding their schools. But there are also arguments that shifting the boundaries would have little to no impact on the schools since Maury is heavily IB students and is fully subscribed and Miner has a much smaller IB percentage (especially in upper grades) and is under subscribed. Shifting the boundaries could change which specific kids attend Maury but might not actually impact demographics or utilization of either school, by simply shifting the same issue into slightly different par too the map.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It sounds like the Maury boundary would move further East if TPTB thinks the present boundary is over-gentrified. Maybe the people who need to worry are those on the western side of the Maury boundary.


There is nowhere for Maury's eastern boundary to go -- it runs to RFK. More likely they'd look at shifting the northern and southern boundaries. Though I think if there are shifts, you would see the western border move. It would be contentious though because Maury already sits towards the western end -- if you eliminate some of this blocks to the west of Lincoln Park from it's boundary, you will be shifting people who paid a major premium to be not only near Maury but near the park and Eastern Market. And they would likely be shifted to a school significantly further away, since Ludlow-Taylor already has a very large boundary and is pretty full. Unless you moved part of the L-T boundary up to JOW.

It gets very, very messy very quickly. Which is why if there's a redraw, it is likely to be quite minor. But you still might wind up with some unhappy folks.
Anonymous
So just to be clear there are not any suggested maps of new lines out there?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So just to be clear there are not any suggested maps of new lines out there?


No, they are not anywhere near that part of the process. If you go to the meetings next week they will talk more about the various tools they are using to look at options and you will be able to provide input. I do encourage people to log on if they have thoughts. The vast majority of attendees at the last round of town halls they did in the spring were from the same specific school (not in our neighborhood). While their input is valuable and was listened to, it is helpful to have a broader range of voices expressing their views on a broader range of topics at these townhalls .
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It sounds like the Maury boundary would move further East if TPTB thinks the present boundary is over-gentrified. Maybe the people who need to worry are those on the western side of the Maury boundary.


There is nowhere for Maury's eastern boundary to go -- it runs to RFK. More likely they'd look at shifting the northern and southern boundaries. Though I think if there are shifts, you would see the western border move. It would be contentious though because Maury already sits towards the western end -- if you eliminate some of this blocks to the west of Lincoln Park from it's boundary, you will be shifting people who paid a major premium to be not only near Maury but near the park and Eastern Market. And they would likely be shifted to a school significantly further away, since Ludlow-Taylor already has a very large boundary and is pretty full. Unless you moved part of the L-T boundary up to JOW.

It gets very, very messy very quickly. Which is why if there's a redraw, it is likely to be quite minor. But you still might wind up with some unhappy folks.


The most natural change to the Maury boundary would be to flatten the top of the boundary and steal Miner's "tail." Pushing up the northern boundary of Maury a block or two at the Western end would have very little effect on demographics (unless you also bumped up the tail), since you'd carveout some of the gentrified L-T zone and a sliver of the most gentrified part of the Miner zone. You could shift the bottom part of the Maury boundary north in compensation & send those kids to Payne, but I'm not sure that has a huge effect on anything except moving a few very wealthy families to a school they may or may not use.

One thing to keep in mind is that both of the L-T & Maury districts are pretty narrow North-to-South. Look at the map and where Maury and L-T are stacked on top of each other is just East Capitol to H St... all of which is heavily gentrified central Hill. There's nowhere to go for non-gentrified real estate in that swath.

You can't give much of the L-T boundary to JOW by the way, because L-T is only a block from the Northern edge of the boundary... and the whole boundary is only from north of D to H; it's actually really narrow already. (Also, it goes unsaid that affected families would freak out entirely. There are many, many heavily involved L-T families on those blocks.) Unlike what the PP said, L-T is actually a small boundary... among the smallest in the area. But the school is full, so making it bigger would just mean weeding out OOB kids and with an IB rate approaching 2/3rds, I can't see why DCPS would back that either.

What you could do is move the Western edge of the Maury boundary to Watkins. Parents would freak out. As with the shift to Payne, it's taking the wealthiest families out of the zone and zoning them to somewhere they won't like as much. I think parents might balk even more, because there's a sense Payne is on the upswing with solid leadership and Watkins is very much the reverse.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It sounds like the Maury boundary would move further East if TPTB thinks the present boundary is over-gentrified. Maybe the people who need to worry are those on the western side of the Maury boundary.


There is nowhere for Maury's eastern boundary to go -- it runs to RFK. More likely they'd look at shifting the northern and southern boundaries. Though I think if there are shifts, you would see the western border move. It would be contentious though because Maury already sits towards the western end -- if you eliminate some of this blocks to the west of Lincoln Park from it's boundary, you will be shifting people who paid a major premium to be not only near Maury but near the park and Eastern Market. And they would likely be shifted to a school significantly further away, since Ludlow-Taylor already has a very large boundary and is pretty full. Unless you moved part of the L-T boundary up to JOW.

It gets very, very messy very quickly. Which is why if there's a redraw, it is likely to be quite minor. But you still might wind up with some unhappy folks.


The most natural change to the Maury boundary would be to flatten the top of the boundary and steal Miner's "tail." Pushing up the northern boundary of Maury a block or two at the Western end would have very little effect on demographics (unless you also bumped up the tail), since you'd carveout some of the gentrified L-T zone and a sliver of the most gentrified part of the Miner zone. You could shift the bottom part of the Maury boundary north in compensation & send those kids to Payne, but I'm not sure that has a huge effect on anything except moving a few very wealthy families to a school they may or may not use.

One thing to keep in mind is that both of the L-T & Maury districts are pretty narrow North-to-South. Look at the map and where Maury and L-T are stacked on top of each other is just East Capitol to H St... all of which is heavily gentrified central Hill. There's nowhere to go for non-gentrified real estate in that swath.

You can't give much of the L-T boundary to JOW by the way, because L-T is only a block from the Northern edge of the boundary... and the whole boundary is only from north of D to H; it's actually really narrow already. (Also, it goes unsaid that affected families would freak out entirely. There are many, many heavily involved L-T families on those blocks.) Unlike what the PP said, L-T is actually a small boundary... among the smallest in the area. But the school is full, so making it bigger would just mean weeding out OOB kids and with an IB rate approaching 2/3rds, I can't see why DCPS would back that either.

What you could do is move the Western edge of the Maury boundary to Watkins. Parents would freak out. As with the shift to Payne, it's taking the wealthiest families out of the zone and zoning them to somewhere they won't like as much. I think parents might balk even more, because there's a sense Payne is on the upswing with solid leadership and Watkins is very much the reverse.


Some might freak out. Others would be glad for the opportunity to attend Stuart-Hobson instead of Eliot-Hine.
Anonymous
I really really hope they don’t move it. We’re one of those that could be affected. We’re inbounds and have a pre-K3 kid but with the long waitlist we had/have no chance of getting in this year. My understanding is that if we don’t get in next year for pre-K 4 (more possible but still likely not going to happen), and we are zoned out of Maury, we’re out of luck for kindergarten. All because, despite trying, we couldn’t get into our highly popular IB school before 2025-2026. It sucks.
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