David Trone for senate

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s go back to the title of this thread.

Opinions as to why Trone lost by such a surprise blow out number?


Because the party rallied around Alsobrooks.

Trone was painted as a “rich conservative” and the party doesn’t like that.

This is pretty much it. But I would characterize it a little differently.

The MD Democratic establishment want to be kingmakers and therefore don’t want upstarts operating outside of their power. That’s a big reason for rallying around Alsobrooks. Because what this election has proven is that they are more valuable than $60 million dollars and if you want to get ahead in MD politics you’ve got to kiss the ring.

It’s pretty clear that no amount of ads can outweigh the value of who Wes Moore, Raskin, etc telling Democrats who to vote for in a primary (same thing happened with MCPS BOE Apple Ballot).

The question that needs to be answered is whether it’s enough for the general election. In the past, the answer has been no. Which is why we’ve gotten Ehrlich and Hogan as governors in the first place. Because the Democratic Party propped up awful candidates.

I personally don’t think Alsobrooks is a good candidate at all. The only thing she has in her favor is being a woman with Trump on the ballot. That’s a huge advantage but not sure it will be enough.


She just walloped someone who spend $63 million of his own money, but go off.


And because she’s never made anything of herself her whole life and made her own fortune, she’ll be beholden to the people who fund her campaigns - big pharma, defense contractors, trial lawyers, big insurance, big medical, big corporate America. She’s going to be bought and paid for before sue even gets the key to her office.

Trone couldn’t be bought. Alsobrooks has absolutely no choice but to sell herself to anyone who will stroke a check.

I will NEVER vote for her.


So what. You are one person. Cry me a river.
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Anonymous wrote:Let’s go back to the title of this thread.

Opinions as to why Trone lost by such a surprise blow out number?


Because the party rallied around Alsobrooks.

Trone was painted as a “rich conservative” and the party doesn’t like that.

This is pretty much it. But I would characterize it a little differently.

The MD Democratic establishment want to be kingmakers and therefore don’t want upstarts operating outside of their power. That’s a big reason for rallying around Alsobrooks. Because what this election has proven is that they are more valuable than $60 million dollars and if you want to get ahead in MD politics you’ve got to kiss the ring.

It’s pretty clear that no amount of ads can outweigh the value of who Wes Moore, Raskin, etc telling Democrats who to vote for in a primary (same thing happened with MCPS BOE Apple Ballot).

The question that needs to be answered is whether it’s enough for the general election. In the past, the answer has been no. Which is why we’ve gotten Ehrlich and Hogan as governors in the first place. Because the Democratic Party propped up awful candidates.

I personally don’t think Alsobrooks is a good candidate at all. The only thing she has in her favor is being a woman with Trump on the ballot. That’s a huge advantage but not sure it will be enough.


She just walloped someone who spend $63 million of his own money, but go off.


And because she’s never made anything of herself her whole life and made her own fortune, she’ll be beholden to the people who fund her campaigns - big pharma, defense contractors, trial lawyers, big insurance, big medical, big corporate America. She’s going to be bought and paid for before sue even gets the key to her office.

Trone couldn’t be bought. Alsobrooks has absolutely no choice but to sell herself to anyone who will stroke a check.

I will NEVER vote for her.


People said Trump couldn't be bought under the same logic.

Your rabid hatred here is super weird. Is Trone your uncle or something? This seems bizarrely personal to you.


Yes, ad hominem personal attacks are a sure way to convince everyone you’re right.


Why are you so invested in supporting a woman who could just as easily be a Trump pick for a deputy attorney general spot, based on her support for cops and hostility to the Black community?

This is seriously who you’re throwing your support behind?

You’ve lost the script.
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Anonymous wrote:Let’s go back to the title of this thread.

Opinions as to why Trone lost by such a surprise blow out number?


Because the party rallied around Alsobrooks.

Trone was painted as a “rich conservative” and the party doesn’t like that.

This is pretty much it. But I would characterize it a little differently.

The MD Democratic establishment want to be kingmakers and therefore don’t want upstarts operating outside of their power. That’s a big reason for rallying around Alsobrooks. Because what this election has proven is that they are more valuable than $60 million dollars and if you want to get ahead in MD politics you’ve got to kiss the ring.

It’s pretty clear that no amount of ads can outweigh the value of who Wes Moore, Raskin, etc telling Democrats who to vote for in a primary (same thing happened with MCPS BOE Apple Ballot).

The question that needs to be answered is whether it’s enough for the general election. In the past, the answer has been no. Which is why we’ve gotten Ehrlich and Hogan as governors in the first place. Because the Democratic Party propped up awful candidates.

I personally don’t think Alsobrooks is a good candidate at all. The only thing she has in her favor is being a woman with Trump on the ballot. That’s a huge advantage but not sure it will be enough.


She just walloped someone who spend $63 million of his own money, but go off.


And because she’s never made anything of herself her whole life and made her own fortune, she’ll be beholden to the people who fund her campaigns - big pharma, defense contractors, trial lawyers, big insurance, big medical, big corporate America. She’s going to be bought and paid for before sue even gets the key to her office.

Trone couldn’t be bought. Alsobrooks has absolutely no choice but to sell herself to anyone who will stroke a check.

I will NEVER vote for her.


So what. You are one person. Cry me a river.


There are plenty of people just like me who won’t vote for her either. You’re a dolt. You’ve been fooled. I’m smarter than you, and so are lots of others.
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Anonymous wrote:Alsobrooks had more votes than the GOP combined. The excitement for her is really understated in the media.


She had the weight of Raskin and the party behind her.

Interestingly, she doesn’t speak in her own commercial with Raskin. She’s not that impressive.

I recognized a beloved mcps teacher/admin in Trone’s commercial—a black woman. Interesting that a black female educator didn’t support Alsobrooks.

I bet Hogan will win. Long history of black candidates from PG County who simply can’t carry the state. Plus: he has name recognition.


I'm starting to think that "she's not that impressive" is code for "she's a black woman from Prince George's County".


Unfortunately, Black women from PG county aren't making an impression on the state.

Hogan won two elections for Governor. The main problem he faces is fear of what a Republican majority would do, not himself specifically. That's a point in Alsobrooks's favor, but not something impressive about her.

I didn't see anything about Alsobrooks except for one yard sign 2 weeks ago. I also remember a commercial recently, but I don't remember who the candidate they were. That's not impressive either, for whoever it was.

Finally, it seems petty, but "Alsobrooks" is an cool but awkward name. As a fellow awkward name holder, I know that harms popularity.


She just last night blew out Trone in the primary. 243,637 voters voted for her. The vote total for governor in the Republican primary, for all candidates combined, was 238,469. So it seems like maybe black women from PG County actually are making an impression on the state.


Sorry, but no. Hard NO.

She’s totally unfit for the job. The US Senate isn’t PG county, and you don’t send someone so woefully unprepared to the Senate
. She’s going to be a laughingstock.

Trone was the only serious option. A seasoned member of Congress, familiar with navigating the halls of power, and not beholden to anyone. He should’ve been the obvious, runaway choice for the Senate seat. But people got caught up in the emotion of wanting to vote for a Black woman. Any Black woman would do, in this case. Just be Black. And a woman. Qualified? What’s that mean? Who cares, right? Just vote for the Black woman. That’s what got us here.

That’s it, I’m done. I’m out. I’ll NEVER vote for Hogan or any other GQP’r rethuglicans, but I’m not voting for her either. I won’t be responsible for sending someone so woefully unqualified to the Senate.

Take off your sheet. Any Black woman will do. She is not qualified. She's unfit. Or my goodness. You need to check yourself. Below is a shortlist of senators with less experience than Alsobrooks, but none of them were/are Black women, so it's okay. We always have to go double, triple the mile just to begin on a level playing field for some of you people.

Susan Collings- only experience was working in George H.W. Bush office
Al Franken - comedian
Ted Cruz - lawyer
Mike Lee- lawyer
Elizabeth Warren - Harvard law professor
David Perdue - Reebok CEO
Rand Paul - ophthalmologist
Tuberville -football coach
Katie Britt -worked in an Alabama congressman's office
Warnock - pastor of a large church
Kelly Ayotte -NH Attorney General
Mark Kelly - astronaut
And there have been many more, but let the Black woman run and have an opportunity and the world is coming to an end.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let’s go back to the title of this thread.

Opinions as to why Trone lost by such a surprise blow out number?


Because the party rallied around Alsobrooks.

Trone was painted as a “rich conservative” and the party doesn’t like that.

This is pretty much it. But I would characterize it a little differently.

The MD Democratic establishment want to be kingmakers and therefore don’t want upstarts operating outside of their power. That’s a big reason for rallying around Alsobrooks. Because what this election has proven is that they are more valuable than $60 million dollars and if you want to get ahead in MD politics you’ve got to kiss the ring.

It’s pretty clear that no amount of ads can outweigh the value of who Wes Moore, Raskin, etc telling Democrats who to vote for in a primary (same thing happened with MCPS BOE Apple Ballot).

The question that needs to be answered is whether it’s enough for the general election. In the past, the answer has been no. Which is why we’ve gotten Ehrlich and Hogan as governors in the first place. Because the Democratic Party propped up awful candidates.

I personally don’t think Alsobrooks is a good candidate at all. The only thing she has in her favor is being a woman with Trump on the ballot. That’s a huge advantage but not sure it will be enough.


She just walloped someone who spend $63 million of his own money, but go off.


And because she’s never made anything of herself her whole life and made her own fortune, she’ll be beholden to the people who fund her campaigns - big pharma, defense contractors, trial lawyers, big insurance, big medical, big corporate America. She’s going to be bought and paid for before sue even gets the key to her office.

Trone couldn’t be bought. Alsobrooks has absolutely no choice but to sell herself to anyone who will stroke a check.

I will NEVER vote for her.


So what. You are one person. Cry me a river.


There are plenty of people just like me who won’t vote for her either. You’re a dolt. You’ve been fooled. I’m smarter than you, and so are lots of others.


Very funny. As if I am going to believe a trolly troll. Who cares if you THINK you are smarter than me? Alsobrooks won so suck it.
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Anonymous wrote:https://www.marylandmatters.org/2024/05/13/a-qa-with-former-gov-larry-hogan/#:~:text=Larry%20Hogan%3A%20My%20position%20is,for%20a%20national%20abortion%20ban.

Here’s Hogan on abortion…he doesn’t support stripping rights from women.



Here's Hogan on abortion.

https://apnews.com/article/abortion-health-larry-hogan-maryland-environment-7fe7e2613ded7f6f15067100f098061d

He has a long record of opposing women's reproductive rights.

I read that article and I have zero problem with his decision, that only physicians should be performing abortions. Your scare tactics have to be better.

Red herring. He need not vote for a federal ban. He will vote for Trump's judicial appointments who have found a way to systematically ban abortion rights across the country. It doesn't take a rocket science to know that Trump's appointees would uphold a federal abortion ban. You know the judges that a Senator Hogan would vote yay for.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm voting for whichever Democrat who wins the primary, no matter which one.


Good for you. Some of us have principles though. And Alsobrooks is essentially a Bush-era cop-loving conservative. She was a prosecutor. She defended cops and prosecuted Black people.

This is who you think we should send to the Senate?

I’m not.

Is that a problem if they are guilty. Asking for all my Black family and friends. I want you to know that we don't give a flying heap what color you are when you are trying to carjack, rob, home invasion etc on with us. Ask me how I know.
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The idea that Trone’s a better candidate when he spent $63 million and lost by 12 points to the person who spent a fraction of it. Most people I talked to said "it feels like he's trying to buy a senate seat".

Trone’s a lousy candidate.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm voting for whichever Democrat who wins the primary, no matter which one.


Good for you. Some of us have principles though. And Alsobrooks is essentially a Bush-era cop-loving conservative. She was a prosecutor. She defended cops and prosecuted Black people.

This is who you think we should send to the Senate?

I’m not.

Is that a problem if they are guilty. Asking for all my Black family and friends. I want you to know that we don't give a flying heap what color you are when you are trying to carjack, rob, home invasion etc on with us. Ask me how I know.


I'm also guessing Alsobrooks prosecuted white, Hispanic, and Asian people given, you know, that's a prosecutor's job. Kind of impossible to be a prosecutor and not prosecute crimes.

This different from someone yelling "he defended a rapist" when a former public defender is running for office. Yeah, that's the job.

All complaints like this tell me is that you don't know how being a lawyer works.
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Anonymous wrote:Hogan will be bullied into swaying with his comrades if he wins.

Yes he will. If he doesn't, he will not be given committee chairs. Pay with your vote to play[b] in the Senate.
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Anonymous wrote:Let’s go back to the title of this thread.

Opinions as to why Trone lost by such a surprise blow out number?


Because the party rallied around Alsobrooks.

Trone was painted as a “rich conservative” and the party doesn’t like that.


Trone is more Progressive than 90% of DCUM posters and they is a FACT.


Didn't he donate to a lot of magat donors?
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Anonymous wrote:https://www.marylandmatters.org/2024/05/13/a-qa-with-former-gov-larry-hogan/#:~:text=Larry%20Hogan%3A%20My%20position%20is,for%20a%20national%20abortion%20ban.

Here’s Hogan on abortion…he doesn’t support stripping rights from women.



Here's Hogan on abortion.

https://apnews.com/article/abortion-health-larry-hogan-maryland-environment-7fe7e2613ded7f6f15067100f098061d

He has a long record of opposing women's reproductive rights.


I have no problems with this at all.


“ Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan vetoed a measure Friday that would expand access to abortion in the state by ending a restriction that only physicians can provide them and requiring most insurance plans to cover abortion care without cost“


The question isn't whether or not you have problems with the bill about women's reproductive health care that Hogan vetoed. The question is whether Hogan has a long record of opposing women's reproductive rights. And the answer is: yes, he does.

And what we are saying is the article you linked doesn’t demonstrate an opposition to women’s reproductive rights. If my daughter needed/wanted an abortion I sure as eff wouldn’t want a midwife performing it.


Hogan's veto actually does demonstrate an opposition to women's reproductive rights. The law (vetoed by Hogan, overriden by the General Assembly) allows nurse practitioners, nurse midwives, and physician assistants to be abortion providers. It doesn't require or force anybody to use a nurse practitioner, nurse midwife, or physician assistant as their abortion provider.

And again I have no problem with only physicians being abortion providers. It does not prevent someone from getting an abortion to only allow physicians to be abortion providers.


It actually does.

And again, this is not about your personal opinions. You are not on the ballot. This is about Hogan's actions.




Lol as a voter my opinion actually matters greatly.


Eh. As a voter, your opinion matters exactly as much as any other voter, no more, no less.


I would argue that my opinion matters more because I flatly refuse to vote for Alsobrooks. I’m not one of the flock of sheep who will vote for what is essentially a Bush neocon LARPing as a Black woman.

Do you think we are monolithic. Please tell me what larping like me, a Black woman, look like.
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Congratulations to Alsobrooks. She’s going to be a Senator.
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Anonymous wrote:Congratulations to Alsobrooks. She’s going to be a Senator.


And she’ll be a bought, paid for, and fully owned subsidiary of big pharma, defense contractors, trial lawyers, big insurance, and big business. Because without their money, she’s nothing. A nobody county official from one of the most violent locales in the US. So she’ll do the bidding of her giant corporate donors.

Trone couldn’t be bought. That’s why he would’ve been the perfect Senator.

Alsobrooks has no option BUT to sell herself. And she will.


Great job you’ve all done for the country in electing her.
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Anonymous wrote:Congratulations to Alsobrooks. She’s going to be a Senator.


And she’ll be a bought, paid for, and fully owned subsidiary of big pharma, defense contractors, trial lawyers, big insurance, and big business. Because without their money, she’s nothing. A nobody county official from one of the most violent locales in the US. So she’ll do the bidding of her giant corporate donors.

Trone couldn’t be bought. That’s why he would’ve been the perfect Senator.

Alsobrooks has no option BUT to sell herself. And she will.


Great job you’ve all done for the country in electing her.


I voted for Trone. But between Alsobrooks and Hogan, I am 100% confident that Alsobrooks will be less likely to be "bought" than Hogan. And I will happily vote for her.
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