Arlington "missing middle"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A six to nine-unit building constructed as a matter of right on a SFH street makes it no longer a SFH street. This change will turbocharge the tear down phenomenon in Arlington, making yesterday's McMansions seem like backyard playhouses.

Yep.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A six to nine-unit building constructed as a matter of right on a SFH street makes it no longer a SFH street. This change will turbocharge the tear down phenomenon in Arlington, making yesterday's McMansions seem like backyard playhouses.

And that's fine.

Plus, as long as McMansion-sized buildings are being built, they might as well house more than one household.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A six to nine-unit building constructed as a matter of right on a SFH street makes it no longer a SFH street. This change will turbocharge the tear down phenomenon in Arlington, making yesterday's McMansions seem like backyard playhouses.

And that's fine.

Plus, as long as McMansion-sized buildings are being built, they might as well house more than one household.

“MMH” was passed allegedly to provide home ownership opportunities and more affordable housing for families. No families are living in six plexs and families that could afford the $850,000 house won’t be able to compete with the developers. Great job in driving middle class families out of Arlington. It will be wealthy home owners and renters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A six to nine-unit building constructed as a matter of right on a SFH street makes it no longer a SFH street. This change will turbocharge the tear down phenomenon in Arlington, making yesterday's McMansions seem like backyard playhouses.

And that's fine.

Plus, as long as McMansion-sized buildings are being built, they might as well house more than one household.

“MMH” was passed allegedly to provide home ownership opportunities and more affordable housing for families. No families are living in six plexs and families that could afford the $850,000 house won’t be able to compete with the developers. Great job in driving middle class families out of Arlington. It will be wealthy home owners and renters.

Missing Middle housing was passed to enable the provision of missing middle housing. Are you the developer who makes your money from rent? Maybe you should be less contemptuous of your customers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A six to nine-unit building constructed as a matter of right on a SFH street makes it no longer a SFH street. This change will turbocharge the tear down phenomenon in Arlington, making yesterday's McMansions seem like backyard playhouses.

That’s exactly right. This zoning is outstanding for developers like me. It’s stunning to believe that it actually passed - no one would have thought this was a possibility 5 years ago. But society has changed a lot over that time. Consider the exponentially more traffic that will be speeding through your neighborhoods, and the loss of trees and tranquility as your punishment for voting for woke imbeciles, and your cowardice in waiting so long to challenge the zoning bc you were afraid of being called a racist. The legislation had so much steam at the end, that your reps passed it despite acknowledging it does not accomplish it’s intended purpose.

I’m a Marylander who works in Arlington and would consider moving there several years from now. Pretty sure this would push me out. It’s so stupid that people think this is somehow inclusive. Instead of overpriced SFH, there will be 6 overpriced condos in the same footprint, with no new streets and no new parking spaces. Overcrowded schools will become more overcrowded because no one built a new one prior to changing the laws and figuring out density. The SFHs will become more scarce and, therefore, more expensive.

This will not bring in some great mixed income diversity. I walk around Ballston. It’s the yuppiest place one could imagine. It will now just be full of more yuppies but now they won’t have even less spaces in which to park. These people actually think they did something inclusive. LOL

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A six to nine-unit building constructed as a matter of right on a SFH street makes it no longer a SFH street. This change will turbocharge the tear down phenomenon in Arlington, making yesterday's McMansions seem like backyard playhouses.

That’s exactly right. This zoning is outstanding for developers like me. It’s stunning to believe that it actually passed - no one would have thought this was a possibility 5 years ago. But society has changed a lot over that time. Consider the exponentially more traffic that will be speeding through your neighborhoods, and the loss of trees and tranquility as your punishment for voting for woke imbeciles, and your cowardice in waiting so long to challenge the zoning bc you were afraid of being called a racist. The legislation had so much steam at the end, that your reps passed it despite acknowledging it does not accomplish it’s intended purpose.

I’m a Marylander who works in Arlington and would consider moving there several years from now. Pretty sure this would push me out. It’s so stupid that people think this is somehow inclusive. Instead of overpriced SFH, there will be 6 overpriced condos in the same footprint, with no new streets and no new parking spaces. Overcrowded schools will become more overcrowded because no one built a new one prior to changing the laws and figuring out density. The SFHs will become more scarce and, therefore, more expensive.

This will not bring in some great mixed income diversity. I walk around Ballston. It’s the yuppiest place one could imagine. It will now just be full of more yuppies but now they won’t have even less spaces in which to park. These people actually think they did something inclusive. LOL

You can't be pushed out of somewhere you don't live in the first place.

Each of the six "overpriced" condos will cost less than the one "overpriced" single-unit detached house. In addition, together, those six condos will provide six times as many homes for people to live in.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A six to nine-unit building constructed as a matter of right on a SFH street makes it no longer a SFH street. This change will turbocharge the tear down phenomenon in Arlington, making yesterday's McMansions seem like backyard playhouses.

That’s exactly right. This zoning is outstanding for developers like me. It’s stunning to believe that it actually passed - no one would have thought this was a possibility 5 years ago. But society has changed a lot over that time. Consider the exponentially more traffic that will be speeding through your neighborhoods, and the loss of trees and tranquility as your punishment for voting for woke imbeciles, and your cowardice in waiting so long to challenge the zoning bc you were afraid of being called a racist. The legislation had so much steam at the end, that your reps passed it despite acknowledging it does not accomplish it’s intended purpose.

I’m a Marylander who works in Arlington and would consider moving there several years from now. Pretty sure this would push me out. It’s so stupid that people think this is somehow inclusive. Instead of overpriced SFH, there will be 6 overpriced condos in the same footprint, with no new streets and no new parking spaces. Overcrowded schools will become more overcrowded because no one built a new one prior to changing the laws and figuring out density. The SFHs will become more scarce and, therefore, more expensive.

This will not bring in some great mixed income diversity. I walk around Ballston. It’s the yuppiest place one could imagine. It will now just be full of more yuppies but now they won’t have even less spaces in which to park. These people actually think they did something inclusive. LOL

You can't be pushed out of somewhere you don't live in the first place.

Each of the six "overpriced" condos will cost less than the one "overpriced" single-unit detached house. In addition, together, those six condos will provide six times as many homes for people to live in.

Oh boy…this is typical YIMBY myopia.

Places where the land is cheap enough to demolish and build condos will be completely gentrified. Pick a neighborhood in DC and track demographics over time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A six to nine-unit building constructed as a matter of right on a SFH street makes it no longer a SFH street. This change will turbocharge the tear down phenomenon in Arlington, making yesterday's McMansions seem like backyard playhouses.

That’s exactly right. This zoning is outstanding for developers like me. It’s stunning to believe that it actually passed - no one would have thought this was a possibility 5 years ago. But society has changed a lot over that time. Consider the exponentially more traffic that will be speeding through your neighborhoods, and the loss of trees and tranquility as your punishment for voting for woke imbeciles, and your cowardice in waiting so long to challenge the zoning bc you were afraid of being called a racist. The legislation had so much steam at the end, that your reps passed it despite acknowledging it does not accomplish it’s intended purpose.

I’m a Marylander who works in Arlington and would consider moving there several years from now. Pretty sure this would push me out. It’s so stupid that people think this is somehow inclusive. Instead of overpriced SFH, there will be 6 overpriced condos in the same footprint, with no new streets and no new parking spaces. Overcrowded schools will become more overcrowded because no one built a new one prior to changing the laws and figuring out density. The SFHs will become more scarce and, therefore, more expensive.

This will not bring in some great mixed income diversity. I walk around Ballston. It’s the yuppiest place one could imagine. It will now just be full of more yuppies but now they won’t have even less spaces in which to park. These people actually think they did something inclusive. LOL

You can't be pushed out of somewhere you don't live in the first place.

Each of the six "overpriced" condos will cost less than the one "overpriced" single-unit detached house. In addition, together, those six condos will provide six times as many homes for people to live in.

Six times as many overpriced homes. The size will not mean these are now opportunities for people to move in who couldn’t afford it. It means younger yuppies will love in. The condos will still be expensive and the lack of SFH will drive up the cost of everything. When a house goes up in price, everything around it does too. You aren’t giving some single mom with 4 jobs an opportunity to live in Arlington. You’re giving an opportunity for a law student from a wealthy family to buy their first condo in Arlington. Or, more likely, a developer to rent 4 apartments.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A six to nine-unit building constructed as a matter of right on a SFH street makes it no longer a SFH street. This change will turbocharge the tear down phenomenon in Arlington, making yesterday's McMansions seem like backyard playhouses.

That’s exactly right. This zoning is outstanding for developers like me. It’s stunning to believe that it actually passed - no one would have thought this was a possibility 5 years ago. But society has changed a lot over that time. Consider the exponentially more traffic that will be speeding through your neighborhoods, and the loss of trees and tranquility as your punishment for voting for woke imbeciles, and your cowardice in waiting so long to challenge the zoning bc you were afraid of being called a racist. The legislation had so much steam at the end, that your reps passed it despite acknowledging it does not accomplish it’s intended purpose.

I’m a Marylander who works in Arlington and would consider moving there several years from now. Pretty sure this would push me out. It’s so stupid that people think this is somehow inclusive. Instead of overpriced SFH, there will be 6 overpriced condos in the same footprint, with no new streets and no new parking spaces. Overcrowded schools will become more overcrowded because no one built a new one prior to changing the laws and figuring out density. The SFHs will become more scarce and, therefore, more expensive.

This will not bring in some great mixed income diversity. I walk around Ballston. It’s the yuppiest place one could imagine. It will now just be full of more yuppies but now they won’t have even less spaces in which to park. These people actually think they did something inclusive. LOL

You can't be pushed out of somewhere you don't live in the first place.

Each of the six "overpriced" condos will cost less than the one "overpriced" single-unit detached house. In addition, together, those six condos will provide six times as many homes for people to live in.

Six times as many overpriced homes. The size will not mean these are now opportunities for people to move in who couldn’t afford it. It means younger yuppies will love in. The condos will still be expensive and the lack of SFH will drive up the cost of everything. When a house goes up in price, everything around it does too. You aren’t giving some single mom with 4 jobs an opportunity to live in Arlington. You’re giving an opportunity for a law student from a wealthy family to buy their first condo in Arlington. Or, more likely, a developer to rent 4 apartments.

What is bad about this?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A six to nine-unit building constructed as a matter of right on a SFH street makes it no longer a SFH street. This change will turbocharge the tear down phenomenon in Arlington, making yesterday's McMansions seem like backyard playhouses.

That’s exactly right. This zoning is outstanding for developers like me. It’s stunning to believe that it actually passed - no one would have thought this was a possibility 5 years ago. But society has changed a lot over that time. Consider the exponentially more traffic that will be speeding through your neighborhoods, and the loss of trees and tranquility as your punishment for voting for woke imbeciles, and your cowardice in waiting so long to challenge the zoning bc you were afraid of being called a racist. The legislation had so much steam at the end, that your reps passed it despite acknowledging it does not accomplish it’s intended purpose.

I’m a Marylander who works in Arlington and would consider moving there several years from now. Pretty sure this would push me out. It’s so stupid that people think this is somehow inclusive. Instead of overpriced SFH, there will be 6 overpriced condos in the same footprint, with no new streets and no new parking spaces. Overcrowded schools will become more overcrowded because no one built a new one prior to changing the laws and figuring out density. The SFHs will become more scarce and, therefore, more expensive.

This will not bring in some great mixed income diversity. I walk around Ballston. It’s the yuppiest place one could imagine. It will now just be full of more yuppies but now they won’t have even less spaces in which to park. These people actually think they did something inclusive. LOL

You can't be pushed out of somewhere you don't live in the first place.

Each of the six "overpriced" condos will cost less than the one "overpriced" single-unit detached house. In addition, together, those six condos will provide six times as many homes for people to live in.

Oh boy…this is typical YIMBY myopia.

Places where the land is cheap enough to demolish and build condos will be completely gentrified. Pick a neighborhood in DC and track demographics over time.

Watch out North Arlington, gentrification is coming!!!!!

[Anonymous]

As someone who worked hard his entire life to afford living in North Arlington, it sickens me that the local politicians are opening it up to the riff raff like government lawyers and other people with low six figure salaries. My kids deserve to grow up in a neighborhood comprised exclusively of doctors, private equity managers, and biglaw partners. Missing middle is one step away from communism.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A six to nine-unit building constructed as a matter of right on a SFH street makes it no longer a SFH street. This change will turbocharge the tear down phenomenon in Arlington, making yesterday's McMansions seem like backyard playhouses.

That’s exactly right. This zoning is outstanding for developers like me. It’s stunning to believe that it actually passed - no one would have thought this was a possibility 5 years ago. But society has changed a lot over that time. Consider the exponentially more traffic that will be speeding through your neighborhoods, and the loss of trees and tranquility as your punishment for voting for woke imbeciles, and your cowardice in waiting so long to challenge the zoning bc you were afraid of being called a racist. The legislation had so much steam at the end, that your reps passed it despite acknowledging it does not accomplish it’s intended purpose.

I’m a Marylander who works in Arlington and would consider moving there several years from now. Pretty sure this would push me out. It’s so stupid that people think this is somehow inclusive. Instead of overpriced SFH, there will be 6 overpriced condos in the same footprint, with no new streets and no new parking spaces. Overcrowded schools will become more overcrowded because no one built a new one prior to changing the laws and figuring out density. The SFHs will become more scarce and, therefore, more expensive.

This will not bring in some great mixed income diversity. I walk around Ballston. It’s the yuppiest place one could imagine. It will now just be full of more yuppies but now they won’t have even less spaces in which to park. These people actually think they did something inclusive. LOL

You can't be pushed out of somewhere you don't live in the first place.

Each of the six "overpriced" condos will cost less than the one "overpriced" single-unit detached house. In addition, together, those six condos will provide six times as many homes for people to live in.

Six times as many overpriced homes. The size will not mean these are now opportunities for people to move in who couldn’t afford it. It means younger yuppies will love in. The condos will still be expensive and the lack of SFH will drive up the cost of everything. When a house goes up in price, everything around it does too. You aren’t giving some single mom with 4 jobs an opportunity to live in Arlington. You’re giving an opportunity for a law student from a wealthy family to buy their first condo in Arlington. Or, more likely, a developer to rent 4 apartments.

That would be missing low, not the missing middle. People are confused about the "mission" - it's not to provide housing for every single person who isn't rich. It's to offer more options and increase density.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As someone who worked hard his entire life to afford living in North Arlington, it sickens me that the local politicians are opening it up to the riff raff like government lawyers and other people with low six figure salaries. My kids deserve to grow up in a neighborhood comprised exclusively of doctors, private equity managers, and biglaw partners. Missing middle is one step away from communism.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A six to nine-unit building constructed as a matter of right on a SFH street makes it no longer a SFH street. This change will turbocharge the tear down phenomenon in Arlington, making yesterday's McMansions seem like backyard playhouses.

That’s exactly right. This zoning is outstanding for developers like me. It’s stunning to believe that it actually passed - no one would have thought this was a possibility 5 years ago. But society has changed a lot over that time. Consider the exponentially more traffic that will be speeding through your neighborhoods, and the loss of trees and tranquility as your punishment for voting for woke imbeciles, and your cowardice in waiting so long to challenge the zoning bc you were afraid of being called a racist. The legislation had so much steam at the end, that your reps passed it despite acknowledging it does not accomplish it’s intended purpose.

I’m a Marylander who works in Arlington and would consider moving there several years from now. Pretty sure this would push me out. It’s so stupid that people think this is somehow inclusive. Instead of overpriced SFH, there will be 6 overpriced condos in the same footprint, with no new streets and no new parking spaces. Overcrowded schools will become more overcrowded because no one built a new one prior to changing the laws and figuring out density. The SFHs will become more scarce and, therefore, more expensive.

This will not bring in some great mixed income diversity. I walk around Ballston. It’s the yuppiest place one could imagine. It will now just be full of more yuppies but now they won’t have even less spaces in which to park. These people actually think they did something inclusive. LOL

You can't be pushed out of somewhere you don't live in the first place.

Each of the six "overpriced" condos will cost less than the one "overpriced" single-unit detached house. In addition, together, those six condos will provide six times as many homes for people to live in.

Six times as many overpriced homes. The size will not mean these are now opportunities for people to move in who couldn’t afford it. It means younger yuppies will love in. The condos will still be expensive and the lack of SFH will drive up the cost of everything. When a house goes up in price, everything around it does too. You aren’t giving some single mom with 4 jobs an opportunity to live in Arlington. You’re giving an opportunity for a law student from a wealthy family to buy their first condo in Arlington. Or, more likely, a developer to rent 4 apartments.

That would be missing low, not the missing middle. People are confused about the "mission" - it's not to provide housing for every single person who isn't rich. It's to offer more options and increase density.

Well, no, the "middle" in "missing middle" describes housing types: duplexes, triplexes, triple-deckers, small apartment buildings, etc. - not economic class.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A six to nine-unit building constructed as a matter of right on a SFH street makes it no longer a SFH street. This change will turbocharge the tear down phenomenon in Arlington, making yesterday's McMansions seem like backyard playhouses.

That’s exactly right. This zoning is outstanding for developers like me. It’s stunning to believe that it actually passed - no one would have thought this was a possibility 5 years ago. But society has changed a lot over that time. Consider the exponentially more traffic that will be speeding through your neighborhoods, and the loss of trees and tranquility as your punishment for voting for woke imbeciles, and your cowardice in waiting so long to challenge the zoning bc you were afraid of being called a racist. The legislation had so much steam at the end, that your reps passed it despite acknowledging it does not accomplish it’s intended purpose.

I’m a Marylander who works in Arlington and would consider moving there several years from now. Pretty sure this would push me out. It’s so stupid that people think this is somehow inclusive. Instead of overpriced SFH, there will be 6 overpriced condos in the same footprint, with no new streets and no new parking spaces. Overcrowded schools will become more overcrowded because no one built a new one prior to changing the laws and figuring out density. The SFHs will become more scarce and, therefore, more expensive.

This will not bring in some great mixed income diversity. I walk around Ballston. It’s the yuppiest place one could imagine. It will now just be full of more yuppies but now they won’t have even less spaces in which to park. These people actually think they did something inclusive. LOL

You can't be pushed out of somewhere you don't live in the first place.

Each of the six "overpriced" condos will cost less than the one "overpriced" single-unit detached house. In addition, together, those six condos will provide six times as many homes for people to live in.

Six times as many overpriced homes. The size will not mean these are now opportunities for people to move in who couldn’t afford it. It means younger yuppies will love in. The condos will still be expensive and the lack of SFH will drive up the cost of everything. When a house goes up in price, everything around it does too. You aren’t giving some single mom with 4 jobs an opportunity to live in Arlington. You’re giving an opportunity for a law student from a wealthy family to buy their first condo in Arlington. Or, more likely, a developer to rent 4 apartments.

What is bad about this?

Nothing is bad about it if you enjoy living in high density locations. Families who deliberately chose single family houses rather than living in Clarendon or Capitol Hill or similarly more urban or dense places chose not to live in those environments. It’s basically having the rug pulled out from under the type of area you chose to live in.