Ketanji Brown Jackson confirmation hearing

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Anonymous wrote:The Republicans on this thread are pushing me toward voting for Democrats this election. Is this all the GOP has to offer? Mocking a historic and very good nominee? Grandstanding and identity politics and virtue signaling? This is making me want to vote straight Democratic ticket for the first time ever. You guys are making the party look terrible.


I’ll ask again: who is mocking this nominee? We’ll wait.

Lindsay Graham, who VOTED IN HER FAVOR to elevate her to her current lifetime appointment NOT EVEN A YEAR AGO, asked her a hypothetical having to do with his feels about the Kavanaugh hearings and accused her of condoning child pornographers.


You obviously don't understand the meaning of "mocking." No one has mocked KBJ. As for asking hypotheticals - that's what ALL of these senators do when grilling nominees. The nominee usually can't answer, but you're crazy if you think Democrats don't do this to Republican nominees too. If you deny they do, I don't know what rock you've been hiding under.
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All I can think of while watching Lindsay Graham berate her, and she stays calm as a cucumber, is that little b i t c h Kavanaugh and his temper tantrum.



OMG same. They simply can't stand a powerful black woman. They can't. It messes with their ego in a way they can't even explain, and threatens their manhood for some strange reason.
I'd really hate to be an old white guy right now. Because American can't stand them.


So you're saying she should not be questioned about the same issues Amy Coney Barrett and Brett Kavanaugh were questioned about - because she's black? Interesting.
DP

Were Kavanaugh and Barrett questioned about the curriculum of where their kids went to school?


And were they asked about being white?


One was grilled mercilessly about her religion and the other about high school and beer. Democrats set the standard for ridiculous questions.


So they were not asked about being white.

BK has issues. His face looks like that of a drunkard. He was able to act out and have a temper tantrum, because he’s a white man. He doesn’t have a good and even temperament. A Supreme Court judge should do better.

AB and KJB do not have the luxury of being able to tantrum.

Hopefully, we’ll have additional qualified people added to the court in the future.


Fairly certain that if either ACB or KJB were falsely accused of sexual assault, and then grilled about it during their hearings, they too would get emotional and angry. With good reason.


I am 100% confident that if KJB gets emotional or angry she would lose nomination in a day. Kavanaugh's behavior would disqualify him for a entrée level job in any organization. He go away with that despicable performance because he is a white male supported by the power hungry GOP.
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All I can think of while watching Lindsay Graham berate her, and she stays calm as a cucumber, is that little b i t c h Kavanaugh and his temper tantrum.



OMG same. They simply can't stand a powerful black woman. They can't. It messes with their ego in a way they can't even explain, and threatens their manhood for some strange reason.
I'd really hate to be an old white guy right now. Because American can't stand them.


So you're saying she should not be questioned about the same issues Amy Coney Barrett and Brett Kavanaugh were questioned about - because she's black? Interesting.
DP

Were Kavanaugh and Barrett questioned about the curriculum of where their kids went to school?


And were they asked about being white?


One was grilled mercilessly about her religion and the other about high school and beer. Democrats set the standard for ridiculous questions.


Seriously. I think folks missed the circus of the Kavanaugh and Thomas hearings. https://www.npr.org/2018/09/08/645497667/the-resistance-at-the-kavanaugh-hearings-more-than-200-arrests.

All things considered though about KBJ, she attend Harvard Law School, she clerked at SCOTUS, and she repeatedly answered questions saying she would wait to hear arguments before formulating an opinion. She might actually be great. As much as a dem nominee could be.



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I have no issues with KBJ and think she's a fine nominee. But the ludicrous claims that she's somehow facing far worse grilling than say, ACB or Kavanaugh, are just absurd. She is not.
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All I can think of while watching Lindsay Graham berate her, and she stays calm as a cucumber, is that little b i t c h Kavanaugh and his temper tantrum.



OMG same. They simply can't stand a powerful black woman. They can't. It messes with their ego in a way they can't even explain, and threatens their manhood for some strange reason.
I'd really hate to be an old white guy right now. Because American can't stand them.


So you're saying she should not be questioned about the same issues Amy Coney Barrett and Brett Kavanaugh were questioned about - because she's black? Interesting.
DP

Were Kavanaugh and Barrett questioned about the curriculum of where their kids went to school?


And were they asked about being white?


One was grilled mercilessly about her religion and the other about high school and beer. Democrats set the standard for ridiculous questions.


Seriously. I think folks missed the circus of the Kavanaugh and Thomas hearings. https://www.npr.org/2018/09/08/645497667/the-resistance-at-the-kavanaugh-hearings-more-than-200-arrests.

All things considered though about KBJ, she attend Harvard Law School, she clerked at SCOTUS, and she repeatedly answered questions saying she would wait to hear arguments before formulating an opinion. She might actually be great. As much as a dem nominee could be.



If a person shows up that was allegedly and with no substantiation held down and groped by the nominee while a friend looked on and enjoyed it, we will see a lot of protests.

But this nominee looks to have high quality character and integrity.


FIFY. Really, your inability to be truthful is pretty disgusting.
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Anonymous wrote:The Republicans on this thread are pushing me toward voting for Democrats this election. Is this all the GOP has to offer? Mocking a historic and very good nominee? Grandstanding and identity politics and virtue signaling? This is making me want to vote straight Democratic ticket for the first time ever. You guys are making the party look terrible.


I’ll ask again: who is mocking this nominee? We’ll wait.

Lindsay Graham, who VOTED IN HER FAVOR to elevate her to her current lifetime appointment NOT EVEN A YEAR AGO, asked her a hypothetical having to do with his feels about the Kavanaugh hearings and accused her of condoning child pornographers.


You obviously don't understand the meaning of "mocking." No one has mocked KBJ. As for asking hypotheticals - that's what ALL of these senators do when grilling nominees. The nominee usually can't answer, but you're crazy if you think Democrats don't do this to Republican nominees too. If you deny they do, I don't know what rock you've been hiding under.

I don’t recall any other nominee being asked how they felt about the confirmation process for another nominee. It’s totally inappropriate.
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Anonymous wrote:I had an interesting conversation with a friend last night. She's a member of the Federalist Society. She said a lot of Fed Soc members actually support Jackson - they like her views on a constrained executive and on the 9th Amendment, among other things - but they just aren't really speaking up about it much.


Frankly, that’s pretty shitty of them. If they support her nomination, they should say that. It might actually help to rein in some of the lunatic friends on the right. To sit back and do nothing because they don’t want to support someone nominated by a Dem is craven.


DP. Riiiight. I'm sure you spoke up in favor of Republican nominees. Sure you did.
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Republicans are obsessed with stoking race and culture war divisions. It’s all they talk about. They don’t my even pretend to care about anything else.

+1 Why on earth was she asked about the 1619 Project?


Biden starting out stating he would only consider a black woman. Liberals celebrate that. Since race is so important to Liberals, it’s important to know whether she will rule with a blindfold on, or as a Kagan does (strong Latina woman) , as a ‘strong black woman’.


Race is important. Do you really, truly not understand why a diversity of perspective is important to have? Versus a court of almost all Christian (Catholic, esp.) and mostly white? If you don't get that, then there is no use having this discussion.

She is qualified. Education. Experience. Confirmed twice at the federal level. She is just as qualified as anyone on the court. That being the case, those other factors matter.


Justice is blind. Supposed to be anyway. So no, diversity should have nothing to do with it


If everyone on the Court is the same or close to it, justice will def be blind to anything but their own experiences. And that's not a good thing.


DP. Which is why we need to have some nominees who *didn't* attend Ivies. Michelle Childs would have been a start.
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All I can think of while watching Lindsay Graham berate her, and she stays calm as a cucumber, is that little b i t c h Kavanaugh and his temper tantrum.



OMG same. They simply can't stand a powerful black woman. They can't. It messes with their ego in a way they can't even explain, and threatens their manhood for some strange reason.
I'd really hate to be an old white guy right now. Because American can't stand them.


So you're saying she should not be questioned about the same issues Amy Coney Barrett and Brett Kavanaugh were questioned about - because she's black? Interesting.
DP

Were Kavanaugh and Barrett questioned about the curriculum of where their kids went to school?


And were they asked about being white?


One was grilled mercilessly about her religion and the other about high school and beer. Democrats set the standard for ridiculous questions.


So they were not asked about being white.

BK has issues. His face looks like that of a drunkard. He was able to act out and have a temper tantrum, because he’s a white man. He doesn’t have a good and even temperament. A Supreme Court judge should do better.

AB and KJB do not have the luxury of being able to tantrum.

Hopefully, we’ll have additional qualified people added to the court in the future.


Fairly certain that if either ACB or KJB were falsely accused of sexual assault, and then grilled about it during their hearings, they too would get emotional and angry. With good reason.


KJB was falsely accused of sympathizing with and being lenient on pedophiles. And she did not get emotional and angry about that. Because she knew if she did she wouldn't receive the leniency that Kavanaugh as a white man did.
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Republicans are obsessed with stoking race and culture war divisions. It’s all they talk about. They don’t my even pretend to care about anything else.

+1 Why on earth was she asked about the 1619 Project?


Biden starting out stating he would only consider a black woman. Liberals celebrate that. Since race is so important to Liberals, it’s important to know whether she will rule with a blindfold on, or as a Kagan does (strong Latina woman) , as a ‘strong black woman’.


Race is important. Do you really, truly not understand why a diversity of perspective is important to have? Versus a court of almost all Christian (Catholic, esp.) and mostly white? If you don't get that, then there is no use having this discussion.

She is qualified. Education. Experience. Confirmed twice at the federal level. She is just as qualified as anyone on the court. That being the case, those other factors matter.


Justice is blind. Supposed to be anyway. So no, diversity should have nothing to do with it


If everyone on the Court is the same or close to it, justice will def be blind to anything but their own experiences. And that's not a good thing.


Ironically, if the PP studied a little critical race theory she'd understand that there is no such thing as blind justice. Every decision is authored by a person, whose beliefs and understanding of the world are shaped by the life they have experienced - in the body they have experienced. No one is a brain in a jar; we are all embodied minds. And being in these different bodies with these different experiences brings a different richness to how a judicial body will view the cases before it. It's very important to have some people with different life experiences there, because that will bring nuance and get the court away from the group-think that infects any organization with too many people who have had the same life experiences.

We need more diversity on the court - different law schools, too. Not all justices should have been educated at the same institutions. That's leads to group-think too. I'm glad that KBJ was a public defender - that's a perspective that's been lacking on the court.


So a person of color should get a lighter sentence because of his/her background, if it was poor?


If you can cogently lay out how you got to your conclusion that starts with “So”, I’ll be happy to address it seriously. This reads like you plopped it down from the short list of comments that Tucker Carlson uses when he makes that faux-bewildered constipated looking frowny face.


That’s how personal perspective would work. Sotomayor said she takes her background into consideration. Should she be doing that or should she be applying the law evenly? Especially when it comes to child porn?
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Anonymous wrote:I am not sure if this was mentioned yet, but I find it so disturbing and appalling that I couldn't listen to the hearing with my 9 year old in the car. and NPR had to break in to warn audience about the graphic language.

There is something seriously wrong with these men. And - how many of them have pictures with Pedo Duggar?


What on earth are you talking about? "Graphic language"??
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All I can think of while watching Lindsay Graham berate her, and she stays calm as a cucumber, is that little b i t c h Kavanaugh and his temper tantrum.



OMG same. They simply can't stand a powerful black woman. They can't. It messes with their ego in a way they can't even explain, and threatens their manhood for some strange reason.
I'd really hate to be an old white guy right now. Because American can't stand them.


So you're saying she should not be questioned about the same issues Amy Coney Barrett and Brett Kavanaugh were questioned about - because she's black? Interesting.
DP

Were Kavanaugh and Barrett questioned about the curriculum of where their kids went to school?


And were they asked about being white?


One was grilled mercilessly about her religion and the other about high school and beer. Democrats set the standard for ridiculous questions.


So they were not asked about being white.

BK has issues. His face looks like that of a drunkard. He was able to act out and have a temper tantrum, because he’s a white man. He doesn’t have a good and even temperament. A Supreme Court judge should do better.

AB and KJB do not have the luxury of being able to tantrum.

Hopefully, we’ll have additional qualified people added to the court in the future.


Fairly certain that if either ACB or KJB were falsely accused of sexual assault, and then grilled about it during their hearings, they too would get emotional and angry. With good reason.


I am 100% confident that if KJB gets emotional or angry she would lose nomination in a day. Kavanaugh's behavior would disqualify him for a entrée level job in any organization. He go away with that despicable performance because he is a white male supported by the power hungry GOP.


I disagree. He reacted as anyone would after being falsely accused of something heinous, with no way to prove his innocence, in front of not only his entire family, but the entire nation. If Ketanji was falsely accused of something like that, I'd fully expect her to get angry and emotional. As would most people. That's not a disqualification in my book.
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Anonymous wrote:How was she not "properly vetted"? There is NOTHING remotely disqualifying in either her personal or professional history. My husband and I, both lawyers, watched parts of her hearing and were very impressed by her knowledge and her poise.

She is as qualified to be a Supreme Court Justice as any other current or past Justice.

1. She’s a Democrat.
2. She’s Black.
3. She’s a woman.

These are three disqualifying factors to racist, sexist White Republicans. That she’s smart and qualified means nothing.

+1000. I am a layman (not legal profession) and I watched the last three confirmation hearings (including the latest). KBJ gave the best performance, had the best poise, showed the best command of the legal profession. Kavannaugh was a total embarrassment to not only SCOTUS but also for the whole legal profession.
The racist quality of GOP was on full display during the latest hearing, bar Senator Sasse. The racists know they can’t have the control of the society anymore and they are thrashing in their last gulps of air. IMHO GOP is a party destined to demise as for what it stands for.


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The GOP is so vile. Why would anyone vote for those racists?


DP. I guess you don't understand that this constant idiotic stream of "racist" accusations makes most people tune you out completely. Good luck in the midterms.
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All I can think of while watching Lindsay Graham berate her, and she stays calm as a cucumber, is that little b i t c h Kavanaugh and his temper tantrum.



OMG same. They simply can't stand a powerful black woman. They can't. It messes with their ego in a way they can't even explain, and threatens their manhood for some strange reason.
I'd really hate to be an old white guy right now. Because American can't stand them.


So you're saying she should not be questioned about the same issues Amy Coney Barrett and Brett Kavanaugh were questioned about - because she's black? Interesting.
DP

Were Kavanaugh and Barrett questioned about the curriculum of where their kids went to school?


And were they asked about being white?


One was grilled mercilessly about her religion and the other about high school and beer. Democrats set the standard for ridiculous questions.


So they were not asked about being white.

BK has issues. His face looks like that of a drunkard. He was able to act out and have a temper tantrum, because he’s a white man. He doesn’t have a good and even temperament. A Supreme Court judge should do better.

AB and KJB do not have the luxury of being able to tantrum.

Hopefully, we’ll have additional qualified people added to the court in the future.


Fairly certain that if either ACB or KJB were falsely accused of sexual assault, and then grilled about it during their hearings, they too would get emotional and angry. With good reason.


I am 100% confident that if KJB gets emotional or angry she would lose nomination in a day. Kavanaugh's behavior would disqualify him for a entrée level job in any organization. He go away with that despicable performance because he is a white male supported by the power hungry GOP.


I disagree. He reacted as anyone would after being falsely accused of something heinous, with no way to prove his innocence, in front of not only his entire family, but the entire nation. If Ketanji was falsely accused of something like that, I'd fully expect her to get angry and emotional. As would most people. That's not a disqualification in my book.


She was falsely accused of having compassion for pedophiles and child pornographers. Did she lose her temper? No, she did not, despite being harangued about it for hours by Republicans obsessed with child pornography cases.
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All I can think of while watching Lindsay Graham berate her, and she stays calm as a cucumber, is that little b i t c h Kavanaugh and his temper tantrum.



OMG same. They simply can't stand a powerful black woman. They can't. It messes with their ego in a way they can't even explain, and threatens their manhood for some strange reason.
I'd really hate to be an old white guy right now. Because American can't stand them.


So you're saying she should not be questioned about the same issues Amy Coney Barrett and Brett Kavanaugh were questioned about - because she's black? Interesting.
DP

Were Kavanaugh and Barrett questioned about the curriculum of where their kids went to school?


And were they asked about being white?


One was grilled mercilessly about her religion and the other about high school and beer. Democrats set the standard for ridiculous questions.


So they were not asked about being white.

BK has issues. His face looks like that of a drunkard. He was able to act out and have a temper tantrum, because he’s a white man. He doesn’t have a good and even temperament. A Supreme Court judge should do better.

AB and KJB do not have the luxury of being able to tantrum.

Hopefully, we’ll have additional qualified people added to the court in the future.


Fairly certain that if either ACB or KJB were falsely accused of sexual assault, and then grilled about it during their hearings, they too would get emotional and angry. With good reason.


KJB was falsely accused of sympathizing with and being lenient on pedophiles. And she did not get emotional and angry about that. Because she knew if she did she wouldn't receive the leniency that Kavanaugh as a white man did.



She didn't get angry about it because she was able to refer to evidence showing that her sentencing was within normal guidelines. Kavanaugh (that dastardly white man!!) didn't have any such evidence to prove his innocence.

BTW, your laser focus on race is just stupid. You seem to expect Ketanji to receive special treatment... because she's black?
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All I can think of while watching Lindsay Graham berate her, and she stays calm as a cucumber, is that little b i t c h Kavanaugh and his temper tantrum.



OMG same. They simply can't stand a powerful black woman. They can't. It messes with their ego in a way they can't even explain, and threatens their manhood for some strange reason.
I'd really hate to be an old white guy right now. Because American can't stand them.


So you're saying she should not be questioned about the same issues Amy Coney Barrett and Brett Kavanaugh were questioned about - because she's black? Interesting.
DP

Were Kavanaugh and Barrett questioned about the curriculum of where their kids went to school?


And were they asked about being white?


One was grilled mercilessly about her religion and the other about high school and beer. Democrats set the standard for ridiculous questions.


So they were not asked about being white.

BK has issues. His face looks like that of a drunkard. He was able to act out and have a temper tantrum, because he’s a white man. He doesn’t have a good and even temperament. A Supreme Court judge should do better.

AB and KJB do not have the luxury of being able to tantrum.

Hopefully, we’ll have additional qualified people added to the court in the future.


Fairly certain that if either ACB or KJB were falsely accused of sexual assault, and then grilled about it during their hearings, they too would get emotional and angry. With good reason.


I am 100% confident that if KJB gets emotional or angry she would lose nomination in a day. Kavanaugh's behavior would disqualify him for a entrée level job in any organization. He go away with that despicable performance because he is a white male supported by the power hungry GOP.


I disagree. He reacted as anyone would after being falsely accused of something heinous, with no way to prove his innocence, in front of not only his entire family, but the entire nation. If Ketanji was falsely accused of something like that, I'd fully expect her to get angry and emotional. As would most people. That's not a disqualification in my book.


She was falsely accused of having compassion for pedophiles and child pornographers. Did she lose her temper? No, she did not, despite being harangued about it for hours by Republicans obsessed with child pornography cases.


Oh well. Amy Coney Barrett was harangued for hours about her religion and personal views of abortion. She didn't lose her temper either. Why do you expect Jackson to not have to field harsh or upsetting questions?
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