What happened to this California family?

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Anonymous wrote:I heard that the latest hypothesis is a carbon monoxide cloud may have burped from a cave (from dormant volcano). Immediate asphyxiation

I guess we will find out but my money is on CO.

What is CO?

Carbon Monoxide (Carbon-Oxygen molecule)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I heard that the latest hypothesis is a carbon monoxide cloud may have burped from a cave (from dormant volcano). Immediate asphyxiation

I guess we will find out but my money is on CO.

What is CO?

Oh carbon monoxide im an idiot

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Weird and interesting story. We haven't heard much about the condition of the bodies, but google the Cameroon carbon monoxide cloud, a cloud of CO2 that escaped from a lake and killed thousands, including people, animals, even insects. It does say that people were bloody and covered in vomit, and it seems the news articles would have included this if it were the case with this family.

CO2 is different from CO. Which do they think it may be in this case? Or is every consideration still on the table? So sad for this family.

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Anonymous wrote:Weird and interesting story. We haven't heard much about the condition of the bodies, but google the Cameroon carbon monoxide cloud, a cloud of CO2 that escaped from a lake and killed thousands, including people, animals, even insects. It does say that people were bloody and covered in vomit, and it seems the news articles would have included this if it were the case with this family.

In Cameroon, it was carbon dioxide but they think the burning, pain, and injuries were caused by sulphur and hydrogen mixed in with the carbon dioxide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Nyos_disaster

I think death by either carbon dioxide or carbon monoxide would be painless but I'm not an expert.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Weird and interesting story. We haven't heard much about the condition of the bodies, but google the Cameroon carbon monoxide cloud, a cloud of CO2 that escaped from a lake and killed thousands, including people, animals, even insects. It does say that people were bloody and covered in vomit, and it seems the news articles would have included this if it were the case with this family.

In Cameroon, it was carbon dioxide but they think the burning, pain, and injuries were caused by sulphur and hydrogen mixed in with the carbon dioxide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Nyos_disaster

I think death by either carbon dioxide or carbon monoxide would be painless but I'm not an expert.

^^^ sulfur dioxide and hydrogen sulfide mixed in with the carbon dioxide

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Anonymous wrote:Weird and interesting story. We haven't heard much about the condition of the bodies, but google the Cameroon carbon monoxide cloud, a cloud of CO2 that escaped from a lake and killed thousands, including people, animals, even insects. It does say that people were bloody and covered in vomit, and it seems the news articles would have included this if it were the case with this family.

Point of order - that suffocating sensation you get if you hold your breath a long time is your body sensing a surplus of CO2 (carbon dioxide), not sensing a lack of oxygen. If your lungs are flooded with gases that are oxygen-poor but also CO2-poor such as high concentrations of CO (carbon monoxide) or other inert gases, you will not get a sense of suffocation; you just ... go to sleep. Because inert gases are frequently used in industry for spark and fire suppression, there have been numerous mass casualty incidents when the inert gas has not been properly ventilated. A person goes in and after a few seconds, falls over. The next person goes in to check on them and falls over. The next person goes in, etc, until there are multiple dead people. Sadly, this could be avoided by adding a relatively small amount of CO2 to the inert gas mixture.

But anyhow, the incident in Cameroon involved CO2 and was, no doubt, horrible. Asphyxiation with inert gas is possible the nicest way to go. It also leave no forensic evidence aside from the asphyxiation itself. With asphyxiation from CO, the side effects really depends on what the CO is mixed with. For example, mixed with car exhaust, there are a lot of other gas that cause nasty effects. A high concentration of CO would be pretty painless and quick, though.

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Anonymous wrote:Weird and interesting story. We haven't heard much about the condition of the bodies, but google the Cameroon carbon monoxide cloud, a cloud of CO2 that escaped from a lake and killed thousands, including people, animals, even insects. It does say that people were bloody and covered in vomit, and it seems the news articles would have included this if it were the case with this family.

In Cameroon, it was carbon dioxide but they think the burning, pain, and injuries were caused by sulphur and hydrogen mixed in with the carbon dioxide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Nyos_disaster

I think death by either carbon dioxide or carbon monoxide would be painless but I'm not an expert.

No CO2 you are aware you are suffocating and can’t catch your breath. Probably like drowning.

CO makes you sleepy and then you die.

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Anonymous wrote:obviously murder-suicide.

There were no marks on the bodies and no wounds. They'd just bought a new AirBnB property as well.

So exactly how would you suggest this murder-suicide happened?

I mean, it’s Occam’s Razor. Toxicology reports will shown the husband poisoned the wife with something in the water, then the baby, dog, and himself.

This seems quite obvious to me. You don't bring a baby on a hike in that heat unless you are planning such an outcome.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:obviously murder-suicide.

There were no marks on the bodies and no wounds. They'd just bought a new AirBnB property as well.

So exactly how would you suggest this murder-suicide happened?

I mean, it’s Occam’s Razor. Toxicology reports will shown the husband poisoned the wife with something in the water, then the baby, dog, and himself.

This seems quite obvious to me. You don't bring a baby on a hike in that heat unless you are planning such an outcome.

Such an absurd statement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I heard that the latest hypothesis is a carbon monoxide cloud may have burped from a cave (from dormant volcano). Immediate asphyxiation

No dormant volcanoes in that area - not for over 100 miles....

[Anonymous]

So horrible. I hope it wasn’t an intentional poisoning, but I also don’t like the idea of random carbon monoxide sinks on hikes that can kill you quickly.

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Wouldn’t they find the carbon monoxide poisoning in the autopsy or do they need the toxicology report?

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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t they find the carbon monoxide poisoning in the autopsy or do they need the toxicology report?

sounds like it would apparent from crimson veins

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Toxic algae. If they don’t drink it, which would be more absurd than poisoning, how could it kill them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:obviously murder-suicide.

There were no marks on the bodies and no wounds. They'd just bought a new AirBnB property as well.

So exactly how would you suggest this murder-suicide happened?

I mean, it’s Occam’s Razor. Toxicology reports will shown the husband poisoned the wife with something in the water, then the baby, dog, and himself.

This seems quite obvious to me. You don't bring a baby on a hike in that heat unless you are planning such an outcome.

Such an absurd statement.

I agree. Another reason to bring a baby on a hike in that heat is because you are dumber than rocks.