Bar Mitzvah next weekend - would you still let your teen go (with rise in delta)?

[Anonymous]

Yes, if everyone in your family is vaccinated. No, if there are unvaccinated people in your home.

[Anonymous]

Of course, yes. My son is vaccinated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vaccinated? Absolutely!!!!! Vaccinated breakthrough cases are extremely low.

According to whom? I know of at least 10 fully vaccinated people who have gotten COVID in the past month. Someone is lying to the public about breakthrough cases. The vaccine will likely prevent death and hospitalization, but I really doubt that it is effective as our government is saying at preventing COVID.

You might want to learn science.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.nbcnews.com/specials/data-shows-how-rare-severe-breakthrough-covid-infections-are/index.html

How likely is breakthrough Covid?
Overall, the data showed that approximately 1 in 900 vaccinated people had breakthrough infections, odds that would be comparable to dying in a motorcycle crash, according to data from the National Safety Council. The vast majority of those had mild or no symptoms of Covid.

If you look at the underlying data from the study cited in the article, you'll see that the data from the states generally spans a time period from January to the middle or end of July. -- https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/covid-19-vaccine-breakthrough-cases-data-from-the-states/ (Scroll down to see Table 1)

So, for the most part, the study doesn't capture the impact of the Delta variant, which is the predominant threat right now.

You must be such a joy ....do you always look for something? Unbelievable. I feel horrible for all of these kids that are unable to socialize because their parents don't have a clue. You have got to get out of this bubble that you live in. Other places have been wide open this whole time now we are vaccinated and you still want to hide? Poor kids.

"poor kids"

Would you allow your kid to go to someone's house if you knew they had strep or polio or mumps or typoid?

Seriously are you just sub human or do you actually strive to get children infected with a disease?

[Anonymous]

Of course they can go to a party in the vaccinated county in America for 12-15 year olds…. Are they going to school?

[Anonymous]

100% yes.

[Anonymous]

I would earlier in the summer but we are not talking chances like this just before school starts. That’s the last thing I need, and making sure they make it to school is my first priority right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would earlier in the summer but we are not talking chances like this just before school starts. That’s the last thing I need, and making sure they make it to school is my first priority right now.

Lol. They’ll just go to school and eat lunch with all the kids who did go to the party.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.nbcnews.com/specials/data-shows-how-rare-severe-breakthrough-covid-infections-are/index.html

How likely is breakthrough Covid?
Overall, the data showed that approximately 1 in 900 vaccinated people had breakthrough infections, odds that would be comparable to dying in a motorcycle crash, according to data from the National Safety Council. The vast majority of those had mild or no symptoms of Covid.

If you look at the underlying data from the study cited in the article, you'll see that the data from the states generally spans a time period from January to the middle or end of July. -- https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/covid-19-vaccine-breakthrough-cases-data-from-the-states/ (Scroll down to see Table 1)

So, for the most part, the study doesn't capture the impact of the Delta variant, which is the predominant threat right now.

You must be such a joy ....do you always look for something? Unbelievable. I feel horrible for all of these kids that are unable to socialize because their parents don't have a clue. You have got to get out of this bubble that you live in. Other places have been wide open this whole time now we are vaccinated and you still want to hide? Poor kids.

"poor kids"

Would you allow your kid to go to someone's house if you knew they had strep or polio or mumps or typoid?

Seriously are you just sub human or do you actually strive to get children infected with a disease?

Keep living in your paranoid state. Unbelievable.

[Anonymous]

This is the craziest thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's the thing. YOUR teen is vaccinated but you don't know if the other teens are vaccinated and there's a decent likelihood that many of them are not. What kind of people are having a big gathering right now anyway? Very very selfish.

People who have probably been planning this for months or even years and possibly had to postpone it at least once. And back in April or May when they were paying deposits, it looked like Covid was improving, so they went ahead with it. I guarantee that they have been thinking and rethinking every scenario for the last several months to keep this safe but to also make it a memorable celebration for their child. And now suddenly, Covid gets bad. Should they completely cancel everything? Lose deposits? Have family cancel flights/hotels, etc.? Or should they go ahead and make the best of it and let their guests decide whether they come or not?

No, they are not being very, very selfish. They are not forcing anyone to come. They are being very, very human and probably doing the best they can.

Signed,
Someone who held a Bar Mitzvah in June (by sheer luck when Covid cases were very light) after having rescheduled the date twice, and who also went through dozens of iterations of what the party would look like as well as many sleepless nights and lots of anxiety over the whole affair.

[Anonymous]

No

[Anonymous]

With vaccinated adults at home, I wouldn't have a problem.

Kids, even older teens, are barely impacted by COVID. The only factors that would have me say no would be if my child had existing health conditions and was obese. Those are the two factors that are clearly present in the very incredibly rare handful of kids who get sick enough from COVID.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's the thing. YOUR teen is vaccinated but you don't know if the other teens are vaccinated and there's a decent likelihood that many of them are not. What kind of people are having a big gathering right now anyway? Very very selfish.

People who have probably been planning this for months or even years and possibly had to postpone it at least once. And back in April or May when they were paying deposits, it looked like Covid was improving, so they went ahead with it. I guarantee that they have been thinking and rethinking every scenario for the last several months to keep this safe but to also make it a memorable celebration for their child. And now suddenly, Covid gets bad. Should they completely cancel everything? Lose deposits? Have family cancel flights/hotels, etc.? Or should they go ahead and make the best of it and let their guests decide whether they come or not?

No, they are not being very, very selfish. They are not forcing anyone to come. They are being very, very human and probably doing the best they can.

Signed,
Someone who held a Bar Mitzvah in June (by sheer luck when Covid cases were very light) after having rescheduled the date twice, and who also went through dozens of iterations of what the party would look like as well as many sleepless nights and lots of anxiety over the whole affair.

Not the person you are responding too, but every single human life is worth more than your deposits. Heck, I would not want to think even one person got long term covid because of my party during a PANDEMIC. Cry me a river about planning for months or years. It's a pandemic. Plenty of people had to rethink their wedding too. The family should make it clear they understand if people cancel. If I cancelled, which I absolutely would, I would send a generous gift and many well wishes and that is that. Human life is more important then attending a well planned expensive potential super spreader event.

[Anonymous]

Yes, if my kid was vaccinated I would absolutely let them attend. We are in a different phase of the pandemic now. There is a risk of a breakthrough case. However, everyone over 12 can be vaccinated now and, as a result, the mantra to "slow the spread" and "flatten the curve" is outdated.

There is a chance that if your kid attends, they might catch a breakthrough case. I'm comfortable taking that chance.