CTCL schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most of the posters on here are so nasty, so I'm hesitant to have a presence. Just saying that we have a great college visit trip to Ohio with our DS this weekend, and toured Oberlin and College of Wooster. Those were the only ones that made the cut in part because we didn't really want Greek life.

For the CTCL haters, Wooster was incredibly impressive. I was reallly blown away by the thoughtfulness of the curriculum to scaffold kids to get them to doing graduate-level work by undergraduate, especially for kids who didn't come in on that level. And the kids seemed super-nice to boot - most of them aren't campus so it was hard to tell - but boy those kids we did meet were awesome.

I would be really happy for my DC to be at Wooster, or Oberlin. I have an older child at an Ivy but the undergraduate focus seemed so much more meaningful at both schools. Just my impression to share.

You lost me with all the references to “we.” Remember that you’re not going to college. Only your child is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most of the posters on here are so nasty, so I'm hesitant to have a presence. Just saying that we have a great college visit trip to Ohio with our DS this weekend, and toured Oberlin and College of Wooster. Those were the only ones that made the cut in part because we didn't really want Greek life.

For the CTCL haters, Wooster was incredibly impressive. I was reallly blown away by the thoughtfulness of the curriculum to scaffold kids to get them to doing graduate-level work by undergraduate, especially for kids who didn't come in on that level. And the kids seemed super-nice to boot - most of them aren't campus so it was hard to tell - but boy those kids we did meet were awesome.

I would be really happy for my DC to be at Wooster, or Oberlin. I have an older child at an Ivy but the undergraduate focus seemed so much more meaningful at both schools. Just my impression to share.

You lost me with all the references to “we.” Remember that you’re not going to college. Only your child is.

DP: The "we" is mainly in reference to going on a college visit trip that they literally both went on. The only other "we" is around Greek life which presumably is a shared opinion. IMO you're going a bit overboard on the 'anti-helicopter parent' perspective.

[Anonymous]

Oh. I thought Kenyon didn't have Greek life either, maybe they do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Loren Pope originally came up with the phrase. It made sense in the context of his book. It still makes sense. We are huge fans in my family, which also includes HYP grads and big state U grads.

I guess even being legacies your kids can’t get into HYP huh?

Not the PP you are referring to but that is now the reality for many families. In DH's family, his father and two brothers attended a top NESCAC, all their children attended same school. In next generation, only one of four has been admitted to date. Jury still out on next three who will all be applying in the next cycle. In our larger friend group, some of this generation have been admitted to their parents' HYPSM/other Ivies/NESCAC etc, but most not. These are kids with 4.0 uw GPAs, top ACT/SAT scores, one of a kind ECs, etc. It is what it is.

It is also the reality for many families that the elite college price tag makes them inaccessible, no matter how qualified the student is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh. I thought Kenyon didn't have Greek life either, maybe they do.

About 1/3 of Kenyon students participate in Greek life. Like most SLACs Greek life is a bit different than on a big university campus though. Parties tend to be open to all, not as much separation from the rest of campus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Loren Pope originally came up with the phrase. It made sense in the context of his book. It still makes sense. We are huge fans in my family, which also includes HYP grads and big state U grads.

I guess even being legacies your kids can’t get into HYP huh?

Not the PP you are referring to but that is now the reality for many families. In DH's family, his father and two brothers attended a top NESCAC, all their children attended same school. In next generation, only one of four has been admitted to date. Jury still out on next three who will all be applying in the next cycle. In our larger friend group, some of this generation have been admitted to their parents' HYPSM/other Ivies/NESCAC etc, but most not. These are kids with 4.0 uw GPAs, top ACT/SAT scores, one of a kind ECs, etc. It is what it is.

It is also the reality for many families that the elite college price tag makes them inaccessible, no matter how qualified the student is.

The elite college price tag is as much a barrier to entry as it is a signaling device in this day and age for upper- and upper-middle class families.

[Anonymous]

For the love of pete, OP, use the search function.
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/967827.page

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/255/811496.page#15289901

I would hardly say that DCUM is "obsessed" with them.

And for people who say they're "safeties" or "below average" schools -- that's just so out of touch. There are literally *thousands* of schools in the US with much "lower" admit rates and student profiles than the typical CTCL. Think: regional state schools. Even lower profile LACs -- like the kind USNWR calls "regional colleges."

Kalamazoo, for example, is largely regarded as the most elite liberal arts college in Michigan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most of the posters on here are so nasty, so I'm hesitant to have a presence. Just saying that we have a great college visit trip to Ohio with our DS this weekend, and toured Oberlin and College of Wooster. Those were the only ones that made the cut in part because we didn't really want Greek life.

For the CTCL haters, Wooster was incredibly impressive. I was reallly blown away by the thoughtfulness of the curriculum to scaffold kids to get them to doing graduate-level work by undergraduate, especially for kids who didn't come in on that level. And the kids seemed super-nice to boot - most of them aren't campus so it was hard to tell - but boy those kids we did meet were awesome.

I would be really happy for my DC to be at Wooster, or Oberlin. I have an older child at an Ivy but the undergraduate focus seemed so much more meaningful at both schools. Just my impression to share.

You lost me with all the references to “we.” Remember that you’re not going to college. Only your child is.

DP: The "we" is mainly in reference to going on a college visit trip that they literally both went on. The only other "we" is around Greek life which presumably is a shared opinion. IMO you're going a bit overboard on the 'anti-helicopter parent' perspective.

When our children went on college tours, "we" gave them a ride, dropped them off, and went elsewhere while they toured. "We" didn't meet any "awesome kids" -- only our children did.

They all ended up at top schools, btw.

[Anonymous]

My DC was graduated from Denison several years ago and could not have had a better college experience. She is close to a couple of professors, did (and published) significant (paid) research and a few great (paid) internships. She is gainfully employed doing work she loves, and considering a PhD program now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most of the posters on here are so nasty, so I'm hesitant to have a presence. Just saying that we have a great college visit trip to Ohio with our DS this weekend, and toured Oberlin and College of Wooster. Those were the only ones that made the cut in part because we didn't really want Greek life.

For the CTCL haters, Wooster was incredibly impressive. I was reallly blown away by the thoughtfulness of the curriculum to scaffold kids to get them to doing graduate-level work by undergraduate, especially for kids who didn't come in on that level. And the kids seemed super-nice to boot - most of them aren't campus so it was hard to tell - but boy those kids we did meet were awesome.

I would be really happy for my DC to be at Wooster, or Oberlin. I have an older child at an Ivy but the undergraduate focus seemed so much more meaningful at both schools. Just my impression to share.

You lost me with all the references to “we.” Remember that you’re not going to college. Only your child is.

DP: The "we" is mainly in reference to going on a college visit trip that they literally both went on. The only other "we" is around Greek life which presumably is a shared opinion. IMO you're going a bit overboard on the 'anti-helicopter parent' perspective.

When our children went on college tours, "we" gave them a ride, dropped them off, and went elsewhere while they toured. "We" didn't meet any "awesome kids" -- only our children did.

They all ended up at top schools, btw.

And your approach to parenting is the one true way!

[Anonymous]

Prior comment makes no sense. The PPs were just pointing out how inane the posts challenging first person plurals are, particularly given that the initial post clearly meant "we."

[Anonymous]

Someone woke the "we police" I see.

They patrol this forum valiantly, making sure that parental posters do not mix themselves up with their children.

[Anonymous]

No surprise that the “we” helicopter parents looove CTCL schools.

[Anonymous]

PP, who hurt you so?

[Anonymous]

And there we go. Not one but two posters managed to promptly confirm the "Most of the posters on here are so nasty." You people are such assholes.

Did it ever occur to you that someone's DC might actually be interested to compare impressions with their parents (the "we" who took the tour with their DC) and have parents along to ask questions, take notes, etc., especially given that DC has never had the opportunity to visit a college before because of Covid and is still trying to figure out what to look for and what's important to them?

I suppose that if my parents were such assholes I wouldn't care about their opinion or thoughts either.