APS teachers leaving?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Bridget Loft and Dr Duran need to rally their troops, improve compensation and do everything they can to boost morale. APS needs to hang on to talented, experienced teachers.

A lot of APS staff see Loft as a joke.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Bridget Loft and Dr Duran need to rally their troops, improve compensation and do everything they can to boost morale. APS needs to hang on to talented, experienced teachers.

A lot of APS staff see Loft as a joke.

A lot of APS staff like her, too,

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm sure all of the above reasons are factors, but it's interesting that no one here on DCUM is owning up to the poor treatment of teachers by Arlington parents this past year. Many teachers were dumped on for things that were not their fault. It's no surprise that some are retiring early or going to other districts.

You're right, but don't bother. According to these people, teachers should have stood there with stupid grins on their faces for the past 15 months eating a sh*t sandwich of hysteria and being piled upon and denigrated by psycho parents and then popped right back up like a boxing dummy saying "thank you, sir, may I have another?"

--parent, not a teacher

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I'm sure all of the above reasons are factors, but it's interesting that no one here on DCUM is owning up to the poor treatment of teachers by Arlington parents this past year. Many teachers were dumped on for things that were not their fault. It's no surprise that some are retiring early or going to other districts.



Were teachers actually being treated poorly by parents in real life or are we talking about internet message board cowboys? Not sure how anonymous comments by disgruntled parents could be worse the administration doing things like informing parents that they weren't going to get their promised summer school because of the teachers (vs poor planning by the admin).



The other AEM thread discusses how actual names were used by some crazy parents in a forum where many APS teachers view comments.



Also there were board meetings where APS School level staff were called out by not name, but when you're the singular person of your title at one school, it might a well have been. Horrible people

Yes. And yes.
And on the second one, since you seem to think that online abuse is perfectly okay, ask yourself how you would feel if you constantly read that all ___________(insert your profession here) were stupid, lazy, and should be fired. Over and over and over again, for 1.5 years, while you were doing your best to do an impossible job.

The internet is a cesspool. We all know this. If your real life mood is impacted by what you are reading on DCUM you should really take a break. The last year and a half has been hard for all of us.

Nope. The incessant, angry, entitled parent harangue that went on for over a year, both online and offline, had consequences. Own it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I'm sure all of the above reasons are factors, but it's interesting that no one here on DCUM is owning up to the poor treatment of teachers by Arlington parents this past year. Many teachers were dumped on for things that were not their fault. It's no surprise that some are retiring early or going to other districts.



Were teachers actually being treated poorly by parents in real life or are we talking about internet message board cowboys? Not sure how anonymous comments by disgruntled parents could be worse the administration doing things like informing parents that they weren't going to get their promised summer school because of the teachers (vs poor planning by the admin).



The other AEM thread discusses how actual names were used by some crazy parents in a forum where many APS teachers view comments.



Also there were board meetings where APS School level staff were called out by not name, but when you're the singular person of your title at one school, it might a well have been. Horrible people



Yes. And yes.
And on the second one, since you seem to think that online abuse is perfectly okay, ask yourself how you would feel if you constantly read that all ___________(insert your profession here) were stupid, lazy, and should be fired. Over and over and over again, for 1.5 years, while you were doing your best to do an impossible job.



The internet is a cesspool. We all know this. If your real life mood is impacted by what you are reading on DCUM you should really take a break. The last year and a half has been hard for all of us.

So, once again, you are defending the online bullying of APS teachers by Arlington parents. You are clearly part of the problem. No wonder so many APS teachers are deciding that it isn't worth the hour commute to teach in Arlington any more.

You can post a video of a puppy on the internet and someone is going to crap on it. That's not a defense, that's a statement of fact. My kid's teacher did the best she could with the crap sandwich she was given and I told her directly that I appreciated her hard work. I can't do anything about what people post here, but I hope she wasn't reading and taking it personally. If you are, you need to step away from the computer. It's not real.

No. That's where youre 100% wrong. It IS real. The internet is just a delivery method for the message. It is REAL people sitting in front of their computers, using their anonymity to spew a steady stream of ignorance, hatred and bile for over a year at teachers, who are also REAL people, without experiencing personal consequences. Now the chickens have come home to roost. Oh well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APS has shit on teachers for too long and not prioritized their pay. Bridget Loft is also terrible and there are no signs of her (terrible) influence waning under Duran. But sure, blame parents complaining on the internet as if APS is the only district where that happens.

¿Por qué no los dos?
(your comment is whataboutism)

Whataboutism is a joke. It’s what people cry when they can’t support their argument. It’s for the intellectually inferior.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I'm sure all of the above reasons are factors, but it's interesting that no one here on DCUM is owning up to the poor treatment of teachers by Arlington parents this past year. Many teachers were dumped on for things that were not their fault. It's no surprise that some are retiring early or going to other districts.



Were teachers actually being treated poorly by parents in real life or are we talking about internet message board cowboys? Not sure how anonymous comments by disgruntled parents could be worse the administration doing things like informing parents that they weren't going to get their promised summer school because of the teachers (vs poor planning by the admin).



The other AEM thread discusses how actual names were used by some crazy parents in a forum where many APS teachers view comments.



Also there were board meetings where APS School level staff were called out by not name, but when you're the singular person of your title at one school, it might a well have been. Horrible people



Yes. And yes.
And on the second one, since you seem to think that online abuse is perfectly okay, ask yourself how you would feel if you constantly read that all ___________(insert your profession here) were stupid, lazy, and should be fired. Over and over and over again, for 1.5 years, while you were doing your best to do an impossible job.



The internet is a cesspool. We all know this. If your real life mood is impacted by what you are reading on DCUM you should really take a break. The last year and a half has been hard for all of us.

So, once again, you are defending the online bullying of APS teachers by Arlington parents. You are clearly part of the problem. No wonder so many APS teachers are deciding that it isn't worth the hour commute to teach in Arlington any more.

You can post a video of a puppy on the internet and someone is going to crap on it. That's not a defense, that's a statement of fact. My kid's teacher did the best she could with the crap sandwich she was given and I told her directly that I appreciated her hard work. I can't do anything about what people post here, but I hope she wasn't reading and taking it personally. If you are, you need to step away from the computer. It's not real.

No. That's where youre 100% wrong. It IS real. The internet is just a delivery method for the message. It is REAL people sitting in front of their computers, using their anonymity to spew a steady stream of ignorance, hatred and bile for over a year at teachers, who are also REAL people, without experiencing personal consequences. Now the chickens have come home to roost. Oh well.

Whoa. I thought it was common knowledge that this forum is overrun by like 5 compulsive posters. This is not real life. Get a grip.

[Anonymous]

A lot of APS students have left, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Bridget Loft and Dr Duran need to rally their troops, improve compensation and do everything they can to boost morale. APS needs to hang on to talented, experienced teachers.

A lot of APS staff see Loft as a joke.

A lot of APS staff like her, too,

Ask them again after she threw them under the bus regarding summer school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APS has shit on teachers for too long and not prioritized their pay. Bridget Loft is also terrible and there are no signs of her (terrible) influence waning under Duran. But sure, blame parents complaining on the internet as if APS is the only district where that happens.

¿Por qué no los dos?
(your comment is whataboutism)

Whataboutism is a joke. It’s what people cry when they can’t support their argument. It’s for the intellectually inferior.

Wrongo, it's an informal fallacy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque?wprov=sfla1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I'm sure all of the above reasons are factors, but it's interesting that no one here on DCUM is owning up to the poor treatment of teachers by Arlington parents this past year. Many teachers were dumped on for things that were not their fault. It's no surprise that some are retiring early or going to other districts.



Were teachers actually being treated poorly by parents in real life or are we talking about internet message board cowboys? Not sure how anonymous comments by disgruntled parents could be worse the administration doing things like informing parents that they weren't going to get their promised summer school because of the teachers (vs poor planning by the admin).



The other AEM thread discusses how actual names were used by some crazy parents in a forum where many APS teachers view comments.



Also there were board meetings where APS School level staff were called out by not name, but when you're the singular person of your title at one school, it might a well have been. Horrible people



Yes. And yes.
And on the second one, since you seem to think that online abuse is perfectly okay, ask yourself how you would feel if you constantly read that all ___________(insert your profession here) were stupid, lazy, and should be fired. Over and over and over again, for 1.5 years, while you were doing your best to do an impossible job.



The internet is a cesspool. We all know this. If your real life mood is impacted by what you are reading on DCUM you should really take a break. The last year and a half has been hard for all of us.

So, once again, you are defending the online bullying of APS teachers by Arlington parents. You are clearly part of the problem. No wonder so many APS teachers are deciding that it isn't worth the hour commute to teach in Arlington any more.

You can post a video of a puppy on the internet and someone is going to crap on it. That's not a defense, that's a statement of fact. My kid's teacher did the best she could with the crap sandwich she was given and I told her directly that I appreciated her hard work. I can't do anything about what people post here, but I hope she wasn't reading and taking it personally. If you are, you need to step away from the computer. It's not real.

No. That's where youre 100% wrong. It IS real. The internet is just a delivery method for the message. It is REAL people sitting in front of their computers, using their anonymity to spew a steady stream of ignorance, hatred and bile for over a year at teachers, who are also REAL people, without experiencing personal consequences. Now the chickens have come home to roost. Oh well.

I stand by my assessment that you need to step away from the computer.

[Anonymous]

I like it when the trash takes itself out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I work for APS and several of my colleagues resigned after this year. APS pay and benefits are no longer competitive with neighboring school districts. If you can’t afford to live in Arlington, why would you commute here when you can get an equally paying job near your house in Fairfax or Loundon or Alexandria?

Arlington parents are a tough crowd to please…some amazing families but also some scary ones. My friends didn’t feel the juice was worth the squeeze, so to speak. Makes me sad because I am watching some really incredible teachers walk away from APS.

Bridget Loft and Dr Duran need to rally their troops, improve compensation and do everything they can to boost morale. APS needs to hang on to talented, experienced teachers.

For what it’s worth, I am an APS parent too. My DD’s AWESOME teacher just accepted a job in another county and she will make more money and have a shorter commute. Why wouldn’t she do that?

Surprising, APS used to be the highest paying county around. When did that change?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of APS students have left, too.

But they are likely coming back after a year when pandemic is truly over; then the system will be overcrowded AND understaffed.

Still no plans for HS overcrowding right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of APS students have left, too.

But they are likely coming back after a year when pandemic is truly over; then the system will be overcrowded AND understaffed.

Still no plans for HS overcrowding right?

some will return to aps, others won't.