Can someone explain AEM to me?

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Anonymous wrote:Don't both of you know that APS's data can never be trusted? They don't know what's happening over the next year. They didn't even survey most of the private school families that left. I should know. I was one of them. My kids are going back to their neighborhood schools in the fall. APS will find out when I enroll them again in the upcoming weeks.

APS has a rude awakening awaiting them.

+1 to the bolded. In normal years the reason that they base enrollment data on 30-Sep student population is that kids are still literally showing up at schools throughout that entire first month without having registered earlier. Families who didn't know to register, families who just moved to the area, families who simply forgot.

The year my son was in 2nd grade they had to re-do class lists three days before school started because they had a handful of kids enroll at the last minute and they had to pull a teacher over from another school and rebalance the classes. This wasn't kindergarten, this was second grade. Our family stayed with APS this past year, but based on years past have no confidence in APS's ability to know for sure how many children will show up on day 1 at any given school. This year could be even worse as families who had gone private or homeschooled wait until the last possible second to make a decision to ensure APS doesn't yank the rug out from under all of us with an 11th hour concurrent surprise or something.

I 100% agree this will be a huge issue. People have no faith in APS and will keep their options open. I have no problem with that. Based on APS’ performance last year you need to keep your options open and look out for yourself.

It’s going to be a hot mess next year.

Yes.. sad but true. So many people lost faith and trust in the leadership at APS. Nothing will surprise us. Our kids cannot afford another minute similar to what happened in APS since March 2020, yet I fear it's going to be a disaster because of the disastrous SB and Super who clearly do not care at all about what's best for our kids. Such a waste.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don't both of you know that APS's data can never be trusted? They don't know what's happening over the next year. They didn't even survey most of the private school families that left. I should know. I was one of them. My kids are going back to their neighborhood schools in the fall. APS will find out when I enroll them again in the upcoming weeks.

APS has a rude awakening awaiting them.

Shame on you for waiting this long to re-enroll.

Thanks for the belly laugh but nah. I don't owe APS or you anything.

There was a large contingent of APS families at our private school last year, and we had until May 31 to renew our contracts. We'll see how many of them trickle in over the summer.

You realize waiting until the last minute to enroll just screws over your own child right? They are obligated to take them, but if they don’t know early enough how many kids will be in each grade, they don’t have time to hire qualified teachers. You end up with larger class sizes or the bottom of the barrel staffing wise (teachers hired in August are probably not anyone’s first pick).

I agree in theory, but many parents don't want to be stuck with distance learning if it happens again. Like someone said a few pages back, most private schools had a May 31 deadline to fully commit, so it's done. People should re-enroll now.

I wonder though how many people are holding out to see if they get off the private school waitlists? That could screw over APS too if they end up being overstaffed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don't both of you know that APS's data can never be trusted? They don't know what's happening over the next year. They didn't even survey most of the private school families that left. I should know. I was one of them. My kids are going back to their neighborhood schools in the fall. APS will find out when I enroll them again in the upcoming weeks.

APS has a rude awakening awaiting them.

Shame on you for waiting this long to re-enroll.

Thanks for the belly laugh but nah. I don't owe APS or you anything.

There was a large contingent of APS families at our private school last year, and we had until May 31 to renew our contracts. We'll see how many of them trickle in over the summer.

You realize waiting until the last minute to enroll just screws over your own child right? They are obligated to take them, but if they don’t know early enough how many kids will be in each grade, they don’t have time to hire qualified teachers. You end up with larger class sizes or the bottom of the barrel staffing wise (teachers hired in August are probably not anyone’s first pick).

I agree in theory, but many parents don't want to be stuck with distance learning if it happens again. Like someone said a few pages back, most private schools had a May 31 deadline to fully commit, so it's done. People should re-enroll now.

I wonder though how many people are holding out to see if they get off the private school waitlists? That could screw over APS too if they end up being overstaffed.

I'm calling BS on this last minute enrollment anecdotal story. A poster said it earlier to talk about how enrollment is getting ready to SURGE before the poster was kindly shown that APS has already disclosed unenrollment for next year is at a record (at least 8%). There's 0 incentive to not tell APS you're coming back if there's any remote chance that you are. Like you'd want your kid having larger class sizes.

Most likely, it was Ventilation Queen, CO2 Monitor Woman or the typical crew of "Keep Schools Closed" crew who will go to any length to not admit they were wrong. The Outdoor Lunch Petitioner described dining indoors at school to the press as a "high-risk activity" (like free solo rock climbing is, but for a disease for a healthy child is less dangerous than the flu according to the CDC).

The moderator at AEM lets them run wild on AEM, spreading misinformation. Here, they don't have to use their name. The moderator at AEM needs to hand off the reins because she has failed this community the past year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don't both of you know that APS's data can never be trusted? They don't know what's happening over the next year. They didn't even survey most of the private school families that left. I should know. I was one of them. My kids are going back to their neighborhood schools in the fall. APS will find out when I enroll them again in the upcoming weeks.

APS has a rude awakening awaiting them.

Shame on you for waiting this long to re-enroll.

Thanks for the belly laugh but nah. I don't owe APS or you anything.

There was a large contingent of APS families at our private school last year, and we had until May 31 to renew our contracts. We'll see how many of them trickle in over the summer.

You realize waiting until the last minute to enroll just screws over your own child right? They are obligated to take them, but if they don’t know early enough how many kids will be in each grade, they don’t have time to hire qualified teachers. You end up with larger class sizes or the bottom of the barrel staffing wise (teachers hired in August are probably not anyone’s first pick).

I agree in theory, but many parents don't want to be stuck with distance learning if it happens again. Like someone said a few pages back, most private schools had a May 31 deadline to fully commit, so it's done. People should re-enroll now.

I wonder though how many people are holding out to see if they get off the private school waitlists? That could screw over APS too if they end up being overstaffed.

I'm calling BS on this last minute enrollment anecdotal story. A poster said it earlier to talk about how enrollment is getting ready to SURGE before the poster was kindly shown that APS has already disclosed unenrollment for next year is at a record (at least 8%). There's 0 incentive to not tell APS you're coming back if there's any remote chance that you are. Like you'd want your kid having larger class sizes.

Most likely, it was Ventilation Queen, CO2 Monitor Woman or the typical crew of "Keep Schools Closed" crew who will go to any length to not admit they were wrong. The Outdoor Lunch Petitioner described dining indoors at school to the press as a "high-risk activity" (like free solo rock climbing is, but for a disease for a healthy child is less dangerous than the flu according to the CDC).

The moderator at AEM lets them run wild on AEM, spreading misinformation. Here, they don't have to use their name. The moderator at AEM needs to hand off the reins because she has failed this community the past year.

Wow, did angry bro dad who demands the termination of Duran and resignations of SB members show up again? There's still time for you to get help, you know.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don't both of you know that APS's data can never be trusted? They don't know what's happening over the next year. They didn't even survey most of the private school families that left. I should know. I was one of them. My kids are going back to their neighborhood schools in the fall. APS will find out when I enroll them again in the upcoming weeks.

APS has a rude awakening awaiting them.

Shame on you for waiting this long to re-enroll.

Thanks for the belly laugh but nah. I don't owe APS or you anything.

There was a large contingent of APS families at our private school last year, and we had until May 31 to renew our contracts. We'll see how many of them trickle in over the summer.

You realize waiting until the last minute to enroll just screws over your own child right? They are obligated to take them, but if they don’t know early enough how many kids will be in each grade, they don’t have time to hire qualified teachers. You end up with larger class sizes or the bottom of the barrel staffing wise (teachers hired in August are probably not anyone’s first pick).

I agree in theory, but many parents don't want to be stuck with distance learning if it happens again. Like someone said a few pages back, most private schools had a May 31 deadline to fully commit, so it's done. People should re-enroll now.

I wonder though how many people are holding out to see if they get off the private school waitlists? That could screw over APS too if they end up being overstaffed.

I'm calling BS on this last minute enrollment anecdotal story. A poster said it earlier to talk about how enrollment is getting ready to SURGE before the poster was kindly shown that APS has already disclosed unenrollment for next year is at a record (at least 8%). There's 0 incentive to not tell APS you're coming back if there's any remote chance that you are. Like you'd want your kid having larger class sizes.

Most likely, it was Ventilation Queen, CO2 Monitor Woman or the typical crew of "Keep Schools Closed" crew who will go to any length to not admit they were wrong. The Outdoor Lunch Petitioner described dining indoors at school to the press as a "high-risk activity" (like free solo rock climbing is, but for a disease for a healthy child is less dangerous than the flu according to the CDC).

The moderator at AEM lets them run wild on AEM, spreading misinformation. Here, they don't have to use their name. The moderator at AEM needs to hand off the reins because she has failed this community the past year.

Wow, did angry bro dad who demands the termination of Duran and resignations of SB members show up again? There's still time for you to get help, you know.

DP and not angry dad, but I completely agree with the above post.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don't both of you know that APS's data can never be trusted? They don't know what's happening over the next year. They didn't even survey most of the private school families that left. I should know. I was one of them. My kids are going back to their neighborhood schools in the fall. APS will find out when I enroll them again in the upcoming weeks.

APS has a rude awakening awaiting them.

Shame on you for waiting this long to re-enroll.

Thanks for the belly laugh but nah. I don't owe APS or you anything.

There was a large contingent of APS families at our private school last year, and we had until May 31 to renew our contracts. We'll see how many of them trickle in over the summer.

You realize waiting until the last minute to enroll just screws over your own child right? They are obligated to take them, but if they don’t know early enough how many kids will be in each grade, they don’t have time to hire qualified teachers. You end up with larger class sizes or the bottom of the barrel staffing wise (teachers hired in August are probably not anyone’s first pick).

I agree in theory, but many parents don't want to be stuck with distance learning if it happens again. Like someone said a few pages back, most private schools had a May 31 deadline to fully commit, so it's done. People should re-enroll now.

I wonder though how many people are holding out to see if they get off the private school waitlists? That could screw over APS too if they end up being overstaffed.

I'm calling BS on this last minute enrollment anecdotal story. A poster said it earlier to talk about how enrollment is getting ready to SURGE before the poster was kindly shown that APS has already disclosed unenrollment for next year is at a record (at least 8%). There's 0 incentive to not tell APS you're coming back if there's any remote chance that you are. Like you'd want your kid having larger class sizes.

Most likely, it was Ventilation Queen, CO2 Monitor Woman or the typical crew of "Keep Schools Closed" crew who will go to any length to not admit they were wrong. The Outdoor Lunch Petitioner described dining indoors at school to the press as a "high-risk activity" (like free solo rock climbing is, but for a disease for a healthy child is less dangerous than the flu according to the CDC).

The moderator at AEM lets them run wild on AEM, spreading misinformation. Here, they don't have to use their name. The moderator at AEM needs to hand off the reins because she has failed this community the past year.

Wow, did angry bro dad who demands the termination of Duran and resignations of SB members show up again? There's still time for you to get help, you know.

DP and not angry dad, but I completely agree with the above post.

I know one family who remains really pissed at APS and are moving their kids to private next year, but I don't know anyone else who is still so actively angry that they're posting on anonymous boards railing against someone who moderates a FB group to which they voluntarily belong. That moderator doesn't owe anyone anything and if someone doesn't like how the group is run, then they can and probably should leave. My friends and acquaintances ran the gamut of being very unhappy with how APS conducted this past school year to those who disagreed with some things to those who generally thought APS was reasonable in light of the circumstances. Still pretty much everyone had accepted how things were by the end of the school year and had turned their attention toward the fall. The continued anger toward a volunteer FB group, anyone else in the community who dared to disagree with them, or even Duran, seems very unhealthy and more than a little pathetic.

[Anonymous]

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I know one family who remains really pissed at APS and are moving their kids to private next year, but I don't know anyone else who is still so actively angry that they're posting on anonymous boards railing against someone who moderates a FB group to which they voluntarily belong. That moderator doesn't owe anyone anything and if someone doesn't like how the group is run, then they can and probably should leave. My friends and acquaintances ran the gamut of being very unhappy with how APS conducted this past school year to those who disagreed with some things to those who generally thought APS was reasonable in light of the circumstances. Still pretty much everyone had accepted how things were by the end of the school year and had turned their attention toward the fall. The continued anger toward a volunteer FB group, anyone else in the community who dared to disagree with them, or even Duran, seems very unhealthy and more than a little pathetic.

The only people I ever "knew" last year that thought APS did a good job were the few weirdos on AEM. At kids' sports and social events, all parents would do was complain about APS unprompted.

Yeah, we all should move on when our school system has suffered permanent damage because of clear mistakes, decisions based on politics (and not children) and not following the science. People need to be held accountable, and we as a community need to make sure this never happens again.

Also, case counts will most likely go up in the fall as this appears to be a seasonal disease. I can just imagine Ventilation Queen, CO2 Monitor Woman and Lunch Petitioner will be the first screaming and yelling on AEM to close down the school right away (for a disease for healthy children is less dangerous than the flu). The moderator on AEM will probably once again give her support.

[Anonymous]

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I know one family who remains really pissed at APS and are moving their kids to private next year, but I don't know anyone else who is still so actively angry that they're posting on anonymous boards railing against someone who moderates a FB group to which they voluntarily belong. That moderator doesn't owe anyone anything and if someone doesn't like how the group is run, then they can and probably should leave. My friends and acquaintances ran the gamut of being very unhappy with how APS conducted this past school year to those who disagreed with some things to those who generally thought APS was reasonable in light of the circumstances. Still pretty much everyone had accepted how things were by the end of the school year and had turned their attention toward the fall. The continued anger toward a volunteer FB group, anyone else in the community who dared to disagree with them, or even Duran, seems very unhealthy and more than a little pathetic.

The only people I ever "knew" last year that thought APS did a good job were the few weirdos on AEM. At kids' sports and social events, all parents would do was complain about APS unprompted.

Yeah, we all should move on when our school system has suffered permanent damage because of clear mistakes, decisions based on politics (and not children) and not following the science. People need to be held accountable, and we as a community need to make sure this never happens again.

Also, case counts will most likely go up in the fall as this appears to be a seasonal disease. I can just imagine Ventilation Queen, CO2 Monitor Woman and Lunch Petitioner will be the first screaming and yelling on AEM to close down the school right away (for a disease for healthy children is less dangerous than the flu). The moderator on AEM will probably once again give her support.

+10000 So glad we pulled the kids out of APS this past year for private. We now don't have to worry about this nonsense and my kids will go to a school that will actually be open. Not having the stress alone is worth it.

[Anonymous]

Man, all of you sound bitter. on AEM last year, I was just there to gawk and lurk. Both same 25 people in APE and SR people dominated the conversation. Out of curiosity, I joined both groups and saw they were all dumpster fires.

I don't know what will happen next school year, but I agree that case counts will go up amongst the unvaxxed, and maybe our younger children as new variants emerge. I'm not confident that APS has a plan at all, and that's a true shame.

I feel like that just like AEM, the same people comment, and it's probably the same 25 people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Man, all of you sound bitter. on AEM last year, I was just there to gawk and lurk. Both same 25 people in APE and SR people dominated the conversation. Out of curiosity, I joined both groups and saw they were all dumpster fires.

I don't know what will happen next school year, but I agree that case counts will go up amongst the unvaxxed, and maybe our younger children as new variants emerge. I'm not confident that APS has a plan at all, and that's a true shame.

I feel like that just like AEM, the same people comment, and it's probably the same 25 people.

Our kids suffered significantly while children throughout the country and world plus in private schools here all were in school, but we're just "bitter" and we should forget it. Got it.

"new variants" = more fear porn.

Ventilation Queen, CO2 Woman or Lunch Petitioner? Which one of you is this?

[Anonymous]

And at least 10 of them post here.

[Anonymous]

Did you see the batsh1t crazies posting today? People, it's summer. Let it go. You seem 100000x crazier now that school is out.

At least don't post with your real name. So embarrassing!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Man, all of you sound bitter. on AEM last year, I was just there to gawk and lurk. Both same 25 people in APE and SR people dominated the conversation. Out of curiosity, I joined both groups and saw they were all dumpster fires.

I don't know what will happen next school year, but I agree that case counts will go up amongst the unvaxxed, and maybe our younger children as new variants emerge. I'm not confident that APS has a plan at all, and that's a true shame.

I feel like that just like AEM, the same people comment, and it's probably the same 25 people.

Our kids suffered significantly while children throughout the country and world plus in private schools here all were in school, but we're just "bitter" and we should forget it. Got it.

"new variants" = more fear porn.

Ventilation Queen, CO2 Woman or Lunch Petitioner? Which one of you is this?

You are quite obsessed with all of them. Sorry. I'm sure all three are here arguing with you, but they are not me.

Other than that, "Fear porn" = not really about the science.

You sound like a certain person who sued the school district for s**ts and giggles.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Man, all of you sound bitter. on AEM last year, I was just there to gawk and lurk. Both same 25 people in APE and SR people dominated the conversation. Out of curiosity, I joined both groups and saw they were all dumpster fires.

I don't know what will happen next school year, but I agree that case counts will go up amongst the unvaxxed, and maybe our younger children as new variants emerge. I'm not confident that APS has a plan at all, and that's a true shame.

I feel like that just like AEM, the same people comment, and it's probably the same 25 people.

Our kids suffered significantly while children throughout the country and world plus in private schools here all were in school, but we're just "bitter" and we should forget it. Got it.

"new variants" = more fear porn.

Ventilation Queen, CO2 Woman or Lunch Petitioner? Which one of you is this?

You are quite obsessed with all of them. Sorry. I'm sure all three are here arguing with you, but they are not me.

Other than that, "Fear porn" = not really about the science.

You sound like a certain person who sued the school district for s**ts and giggles.

+1

One of these nut jobs called me ventilation lady before. Totally obsessed.

[Anonymous]

Holy meltdown on AEM tonight, part of the same thread where we saw familiar melters and naysayers posting yesterday. The commenter said her life plan included public school. Fair enough. But I don't think any of us had a global pandemic in our life plans but we got one anyway and we had to deal. It sucked in so many ways and it definitely sucked more than for others, but FFS, get out of the bitter barn and play in the hay (Phoebe in a Friends episode).