GPA - Recruiting

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Rigor definitely matters for Ivy League recruiting. Coaches submit to admissions current transcript for GPA, next year's class schedule to assure rigor, ACT or SAT test scores, as well as school profile information from college counseling dept.

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Anonymous wrote:Rigor definitely matters for Ivy League recruiting. Coaches submit to admissions current transcript for GPA, next year's class schedule to assure rigor, ACT or SAT test scores, as well as school profile information from college counseling dept.

Many top academic colleges want recruits to send their high school profile along with their transcripts - at least if it’s a public school or unknown private. That’s because they need to understand the RIGOR of a school’s academics in order to determine if a GPA offers a legitimate assessment of a prospective athlete’s academic ability. A kid from a Potomac or Sidwell type if school doesn’t need to do that.

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Anonymous wrote:No reputable college accepts/considers a “weighted” GPA. It’s a public school gimmick and elite colleges are well-aware. They look at GPA and rigor of course load. If they are unfamiliar with a school, they will give greater consideration to APs as these course are standardized across the country. It’s the only reliable standardized measurement left for public schools if the SAT/ACT is out or optional. Private schools are typically easier to judge rigor unless they are new or tiny.

Do private schools not weight GPA for APs?

No. They don’t. And best privates are getting rid of APs all together. APs aren’t as good a regular courses, much less honors classes, at schools like Sidwell, STA and Potomac. You are not very bright if you think rigor doesn’t matter to the top academic colleges.

This thread is about athletes. Schools look at GPA and SAT only, not rigor.

Untrue in our case. My DC was in an IB (International Baccalaureate) program at a private school. The NESCACs and other highly selective schools (Swarthmore, Haverford) that were interested were delighted that DC was in that program. Coaches frequently asked about how many AP and IB courses were taken and what the grades were in those classes.

Delighted and required are 2 different things. Yes, they would love to recruit a kid that will boost their overall GPA for the team. But they were not going to deny him a spot if he was not in an IB program and was a good player.

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Anonymous wrote:The reason why college rosters have a majority private school roster is for years, lacrosse was predominantly a private school sport (much like crew). Even now, that’s still the case - but to a lesser extent. While there are many VA public’s that have lacrosse, there are many that do not (the high schools by the Beach, for example). By contrast, almost every private of a certain size has lacrosse, and those programs have been part of their schools’ athletic offerings for a longer period than the corresponding public schools.

Also, let’s also not forget: private schools attract a certain socio-economic demographic, and as a non-revenue sport, collegiate lacrosse programs (especially at expensive private colleges) tend to be populated by full-pay kids. Of course, there are exceptions to this rule, but it is generally the rule.

You have an interesting point but I don’t think that explains it. Sure I agree that full pay kids have an advantage in the admissions process but I don’t think the coaches look at that when picking recruits. The coaches are looking at lacrosse skill and grades/ability hang academically. My view is that, at the highly selective schools (Ivies, etc.), the coaches don’t want to bring aboard kids who will hurt the team’s GPA. Every story I have ever heard is that public school student going to Ivy or Ivy equivalent is completely underprepared. I think the coaches know this and hence gravitate towards private schools with more academic rigor.

This is one of the silliest statements I’ve ever seen on DCUM. The poster you are responding to clearly understands why top lacrosse schools are filled with private school students. There are tons of excellent public schools in MoCo and NoVa, and they all have hundreds of kids who would excel academically at Big 3 privates. They don’t tend to be nearly as wealthy as private school kids and don’t have access to top HS lacrosse teams, so they are far less likely to end up recruited to high level college lacrosse programs. But they are as well prepared for college academics as any private school kid.

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Anonymous wrote:Rigor definitely matters for Ivy League recruiting. Coaches submit to admissions current transcript for GPA, next year's class schedule to assure rigor, ACT or SAT test scores, as well as school profile information from college counseling dept.

My public school kid was recruited by Ivies and other top academic schools for a different non-revenue sport, and the coaching staff reviewed his transcript for both grades and class selection before moving forward. Once he committed, the assistant coaches reviewed his proposed class slate each semester to make sure he continued to meet the admissions threshold, and they told him the minimum SAT and ACT score he needed to be safe. The level of rigor required was definitely lower than what a non-recruited athlete would need, though. They said Calculus A/B junior year followed by Stats senior year was fine, for example, when all the non-athletes aiming for schools of this caliber were taking B/C followed by multivariable calculus. They also were fine with 6-7 APs instead of the 10-12 most ambitious students took.

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Anonymous wrote:Rigor definitely matters for Ivy League recruiting. Coaches submit to admissions current transcript for GPA, next year's class schedule to assure rigor, ACT or SAT test scores, as well as school profile information from college counseling dept.

My public school kid was recruited by Ivies and other top academic schools for a different non-revenue sport, and the coaching staff reviewed his transcript for both grades and class selection before moving forward. Once he committed, the assistant coaches reviewed his proposed class slate each semester to make sure he continued to meet the admissions threshold, and they told him the minimum SAT and ACT score he needed to be safe. The level of rigor required was definitely lower than what a non-recruited athlete would need, though. They said Calculus A/B junior year followed by Stats senior year was fine, for example, when all the non-athletes aiming for schools of this caliber were taking B/C followed by multivariable calculus. They also were fine with 6-7 APs instead of the 10-12 most ambitious students took.

Weird my son had 0 APs and nobody cared.

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Anonymous wrote:Rigor definitely matters for Ivy League recruiting. Coaches submit to admissions current transcript for GPA, next year's class schedule to assure rigor, ACT or SAT test scores, as well as school profile information from college counseling dept.

My public school kid was recruited by Ivies and other top academic schools for a different non-revenue sport, and the coaching staff reviewed his transcript for both grades and class selection before moving forward. Once he committed, the assistant coaches reviewed his proposed class slate each semester to make sure he continued to meet the admissions threshold, and they told him the minimum SAT and ACT score he needed to be safe. The level of rigor required was definitely lower than what a non-recruited athlete would need, though. They said Calculus A/B junior year followed by Stats senior year was fine, for example, when all the non-athletes aiming for schools of this caliber were taking B/C followed by multivariable calculus. They also were fine with 6-7 APs instead of the 10-12 most ambitious students took.

Weird my son had 0 APs and nobody cared.

At a public or private?

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Anonymous wrote:Rigor definitely matters for Ivy League recruiting. Coaches submit to admissions current transcript for GPA, next year's class schedule to assure rigor, ACT or SAT test scores, as well as school profile information from college counseling dept.

My public school kid was recruited by Ivies and other top academic schools for a different non-revenue sport, and the coaching staff reviewed his transcript for both grades and class selection before moving forward. Once he committed, the assistant coaches reviewed his proposed class slate each semester to make sure he continued to meet the admissions threshold, and they told him the minimum SAT and ACT score he needed to be safe. The level of rigor required was definitely lower than what a non-recruited athlete would need, though. They said Calculus A/B junior year followed by Stats senior year was fine, for example, when all the non-athletes aiming for schools of this caliber were taking B/C followed by multivariable calculus. They also were fine with 6-7 APs instead of the 10-12 most ambitious students took.

Weird my son had 0 APs and nobody cared.

At a public or private?

Catholic