GPA - Recruiting

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Anonymous wrote:No reputable college accepts/considers a “weighted” GPA. It’s a public school gimmick and elite colleges are well-aware. They look at GPA and rigor of course load. If they are unfamiliar with a school, they will give greater consideration to APs as these course are standardized across the country. It’s the only reliable standardized measurement left for public schools if the SAT/ACT is out or optional. Private schools are typically easier to judge rigor unless they are new or tiny.

They don’t judge rigor they use GPA and SAT

Incorrect. Coaches know which private schools have rigor. Not much of a debate.

Well, which private schools are rigorous? In the DMV, there is a vast difference between say, the Potomac School or Sidwell, and PVI or Flint Hill. Not all private schools are created equal.

A friend’s son was being recruited by Holy Cross for football several years ago, and the recruiting coach said that with the exception of Gonzaga and Prep, they could not recruit football players from many of the WCAC schools like Good Counsel and Dematha because the curriculum at those schools did not prepare many of their athletes for college level work.

As for no reputable college considers weighted GPA, that’s simply false. FCPS weights GPAs based on whether the courses are honors or AP courses; FCPS sends plenty of kids to top schools every year. For recruited athletes, in particular, college coaches will use whatever advantages they can muster, and that includes super scoring the test and taking a Weighted GPA that reflects a challenging course load.

I have had two kids recruited for football and one for lacrosse. My kids FCPS school was never questioned by any coach or admissions officer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No reputable college accepts/considers a “weighted” GPA. It’s a public school gimmick and elite colleges are well-aware. They look at GPA and rigor of course load. If they are unfamiliar with a school, they will give greater consideration to APs as these course are standardized across the country. It’s the only reliable standardized measurement left for public schools if the SAT/ACT is out or optional. Private schools are typically easier to judge rigor unless they are new or tiny.

They don’t judge rigor they use GPA and SAT

Incorrect. Coaches know which private schools have rigor. Not much of a debate.

Well, which private schools are rigorous? In the DMV, there is a vast difference between say, the Potomac School or Sidwell, and PVI or Flint Hill. Not all private schools are created equal.

A friend’s son was being recruited by Holy Cross for football several years ago, and the recruiting coach said that with the exception of Gonzaga and Prep, they could not recruit football players from many of the WCAC schools like Good Counsel and Dematha because the curriculum at those schools did not prepare many of their athletes for college level work.

As for no reputable college considers weighted GPA, that’s simply false. FCPS weights GPAs based on whether the courses are honors or AP courses; FCPS sends plenty of kids to top schools every year. For recruited athletes, in particular, college coaches will use whatever advantages they can muster, and that includes super scoring the test and taking a Weighted GPA that reflects a challenging course load.

I have had two kids recruited for football and one for lacrosse. My kids FCPS school was never questioned by any coach or admissions officer.

But not all colleges are equal. Being recruited by an Ivy or Ivy equivalent is much different than a state / public school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No reputable college accepts/considers a “weighted” GPA. It’s a public school gimmick and elite colleges are well-aware. They look at GPA and rigor of course load. If they are unfamiliar with a school, they will give greater consideration to APs as these course are standardized across the country. It’s the only reliable standardized measurement left for public schools if the SAT/ACT is out or optional. Private schools are typically easier to judge rigor unless they are new or tiny.

They don’t judge rigor they use GPA and SAT

Incorrect. Coaches know which private schools have rigor. Not much of a debate.

Well, which private schools are rigorous? In the DMV, there is a vast difference between say, the Potomac School or Sidwell, and PVI or Flint Hill. Not all private schools are created equal.

A friend’s son was being recruited by Holy Cross for football several years ago, and the recruiting coach said that with the exception of Gonzaga and Prep, they could not recruit football players from many of the WCAC schools like Good Counsel and Dematha because the curriculum at those schools did not prepare many of their athletes for college level work.

As for no reputable college considers weighted GPA, that’s simply false. FCPS weights GPAs based on whether the courses are honors or AP courses; FCPS sends plenty of kids to top schools every year. For recruited athletes, in particular, college coaches will use whatever advantages they can muster, and that includes super scoring the test and taking a Weighted GPA that reflects a challenging course load.

I have had two kids recruited for football and one for lacrosse. My kids FCPS school was never questioned by any coach or admissions officer.

Tell that to the DeMatha and Good Counsel athletes that have gone on to Ivy/Ivy equivalent schools in recent years...

Sorry. But Holy Cross football likely is even a blip in the radar for those kids. Not a good example.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No reputable college accepts/considers a “weighted” GPA. It’s a public school gimmick and elite colleges are well-aware. They look at GPA and rigor of course load. If they are unfamiliar with a school, they will give greater consideration to APs as these course are standardized across the country. It’s the only reliable standardized measurement left for public schools if the SAT/ACT is out or optional. Private schools are typically easier to judge rigor unless they are new or tiny.

They don’t judge rigor they use GPA and SAT

Incorrect. Coaches know which private schools have rigor. Not much of a debate.

You are delusional

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No reputable college accepts/considers a “weighted” GPA. It’s a public school gimmick and elite colleges are well-aware. They look at GPA and rigor of course load. If they are unfamiliar with a school, they will give greater consideration to APs as these course are standardized across the country. It’s the only reliable standardized measurement left for public schools if the SAT/ACT is out or optional. Private schools are typically easier to judge rigor unless they are new or tiny.

They don’t judge rigor they use GPA and SAT

Incorrect. Coaches know which private schools have rigor. Not much of a debate.

Well, which private schools are rigorous? In the DMV, there is a vast difference between say, the Potomac School or Sidwell, and PVI or Flint Hill. Not all private schools are created equal.

A friend’s son was being recruited by Holy Cross for football several years ago, and the recruiting coach said that with the exception of Gonzaga and Prep, they could not recruit football players from many of the WCAC schools like Good Counsel and Dematha because the curriculum at those schools did not prepare many of their athletes for college level work.

As for no reputable college considers weighted GPA, that’s simply false. FCPS weights GPAs based on whether the courses are honors or AP courses; FCPS sends plenty of kids to top schools every year. For recruited athletes, in particular, college coaches will use whatever advantages they can muster, and that includes super scoring the test and taking a Weighted GPA that reflects a challenging course load.

I have had two kids recruited for football and one for lacrosse. My kids FCPS school was never questioned by any coach or admissions officer.

Your insane OLGC regularly has athletes going to the Ivy League… also the regularly have non-athletes go to Ivy schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No reputable college accepts/considers a “weighted” GPA. It’s a public school gimmick and elite colleges are well-aware. They look at GPA and rigor of course load. If they are unfamiliar with a school, they will give greater consideration to APs as these course are standardized across the country. It’s the only reliable standardized measurement left for public schools if the SAT/ACT is out or optional. Private schools are typically easier to judge rigor unless they are new or tiny.

They don’t judge rigor they use GPA and SAT

Incorrect. Coaches know which private schools have rigor. Not much of a debate.

Well, which private schools are rigorous? In the DMV, there is a vast difference between say, the Potomac School or Sidwell, and PVI or Flint Hill. Not all private schools are created equal.

A friend’s son was being recruited by Holy Cross for football several years ago, and the recruiting coach said that with the exception of Gonzaga and Prep, they could not recruit football players from many of the WCAC schools like Good Counsel and Dematha because the curriculum at those schools did not prepare many of their athletes for college level work.

As for no reputable college considers weighted GPA, that’s simply false. FCPS weights GPAs based on whether the courses are honors or AP courses; FCPS sends plenty of kids to top schools every year. For recruited athletes, in particular, college coaches will use whatever advantages they can muster, and that includes super scoring the test and taking a Weighted GPA that reflects a challenging course load.

I have had two kids recruited for football and one for lacrosse. My kids FCPS school was never questioned by any coach or admissions officer.

Tell that to the DeMatha and Good Counsel athletes that have gone on to Ivy/Ivy equivalent schools in recent years...

Sorry. But Holy Cross football likely is even a blip in the radar for those kids. Not a good example.

Holy cross coach sounds like he has a chip on his shoulder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can you get recruited with poor grades? I’m thinking of the students who are excellent athletes but struggle with learning disabilities, etc.

Of course. Hello UNC Chapel Hill.

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Yeah, look at the latest WSJ college rankings—UNC around #32, way ahead of places like UVA. Any student-athlete would be extremely lucky to attend the southern side of Heaven.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No reputable college accepts/considers a “weighted” GPA. It’s a public school gimmick and elite colleges are well-aware. They look at GPA and rigor of course load. If they are unfamiliar with a school, they will give greater consideration to APs as these course are standardized across the country. It’s the only reliable standardized measurement left for public schools if the SAT/ACT is out or optional. Private schools are typically easier to judge rigor unless they are new or tiny.

They don’t judge rigor they use GPA and SAT

Incorrect. Coaches know which private schools have rigor. Not much of a debate.

Well, which private schools are rigorous? In the DMV, there is a vast difference between say, the Potomac School or Sidwell, and PVI or Flint Hill. Not all private schools are created equal.

A friend’s son was being recruited by Holy Cross for football several years ago, and the recruiting coach said that with the exception of Gonzaga and Prep, they could not recruit football players from many of the WCAC schools like Good Counsel and Dematha because the curriculum at those schools did not prepare many of their athletes for college level work.

As for no reputable college considers weighted GPA, that’s simply false. FCPS weights GPAs based on whether the courses are honors or AP courses; FCPS sends plenty of kids to top schools every year. For recruited athletes, in particular, college coaches will use whatever advantages they can muster, and that includes super scoring the test and taking a Weighted GPA that reflects a challenging course load.

I have had two kids recruited for football and one for lacrosse. My kids FCPS school was never questioned by any coach or admissions officer.

But not all colleges are equal. Being recruited by an Ivy or Ivy equivalent is much different than a state / public school.

Right. My recruited kids were recruited at top 10 SLACs out of FCPS. They were not the athletic equivalent of the UNC and UVA athletes, so in their case, their test scores and weighted GPAs mattered a lot. 5 star recruits generally don’t have those concerns - although if they can’t satisfy the IVY index, even 5 stars can’t be recruited by Yale or Princeton.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No reputable college accepts/considers a “weighted” GPA. It’s a public school gimmick and elite colleges are well-aware. They look at GPA and rigor of course load. If they are unfamiliar with a school, they will give greater consideration to APs as these course are standardized across the country. It’s the only reliable standardized measurement left for public schools if the SAT/ACT is out or optional. Private schools are typically easier to judge rigor unless they are new or tiny.

They don’t judge rigor they use GPA and SAT

Incorrect. Coaches know which private schools have rigor. Not much of a debate.

Well, which private schools are rigorous? In the DMV, there is a vast difference between say, the Potomac School or Sidwell, and PVI or Flint Hill. Not all private schools are created equal.

A friend’s son was being recruited by Holy Cross for football several years ago, and the recruiting coach said that with the exception of Gonzaga and Prep, they could not recruit football players from many of the WCAC schools like Good Counsel and Dematha because the curriculum at those schools did not prepare many of their athletes for college level work.

As for no reputable college considers weighted GPA, that’s simply false. FCPS weights GPAs based on whether the courses are honors or AP courses; FCPS sends plenty of kids to top schools every year. For recruited athletes, in particular, college coaches will use whatever advantages they can muster, and that includes super scoring the test and taking a Weighted GPA that reflects a challenging course load.

I have had two kids recruited for football and one for lacrosse. My kids FCPS school was never questioned by any coach or admissions officer.

But not all colleges are equal. Being recruited by an Ivy or Ivy equivalent is much different than a state / public school.

Right. My recruited kids were recruited at top 10 SLACs out of FCPS. They were not the athletic equivalent of the UNC and UVA athletes, so in their case, their test scores and weighted GPAs mattered a lot. 5 star recruits generally don’t have those concerns - although if they can’t satisfy the IVY index, even 5 stars can’t be recruited by Yale or Princeton.

But they still don’t care about rigor just SAT and GPA.

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Anonymous wrote:No reputable college accepts/considers a “weighted” GPA. It’s a public school gimmick and elite colleges are well-aware. They look at GPA and rigor of course load. If they are unfamiliar with a school, they will give greater consideration to APs as these course are standardized across the country. It’s the only reliable standardized measurement left for public schools if the SAT/ACT is out or optional. Private schools are typically easier to judge rigor unless they are new or tiny.

Do private schools not weight GPA for APs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No reputable college accepts/considers a “weighted” GPA. It’s a public school gimmick and elite colleges are well-aware. They look at GPA and rigor of course load. If they are unfamiliar with a school, they will give greater consideration to APs as these course are standardized across the country. It’s the only reliable standardized measurement left for public schools if the SAT/ACT is out or optional. Private schools are typically easier to judge rigor unless they are new or tiny.

Do private schools not weight GPA for APs?

No. They don’t. And best privates are getting rid of APs all together. APs aren’t as good a regular courses, much less honors classes, at schools like Sidwell, STA and Potomac. You are not very bright if you think rigor doesn’t matter to the top academic colleges.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No reputable college accepts/considers a “weighted” GPA. It’s a public school gimmick and elite colleges are well-aware. They look at GPA and rigor of course load. If they are unfamiliar with a school, they will give greater consideration to APs as these course are standardized across the country. It’s the only reliable standardized measurement left for public schools if the SAT/ACT is out or optional. Private schools are typically easier to judge rigor unless they are new or tiny.

Do private schools not weight GPA for APs?

No. They don’t. And best privates are getting rid of APs all together. APs aren’t as good a regular courses, much less honors classes, at schools like Sidwell, STA and Potomac. You are not very bright if you think rigor doesn’t matter to the top academic colleges.

This thread is about athletes. Schools look at GPA and SAT only, not rigor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No reputable college accepts/considers a “weighted” GPA. It’s a public school gimmick and elite colleges are well-aware. They look at GPA and rigor of course load. If they are unfamiliar with a school, they will give greater consideration to APs as these course are standardized across the country. It’s the only reliable standardized measurement left for public schools if the SAT/ACT is out or optional. Private schools are typically easier to judge rigor unless they are new or tiny.

Do private schools not weight GPA for APs?

No. They don’t. And best privates are getting rid of APs all together. APs aren’t as good a regular courses, much less honors classes, at schools like Sidwell, STA and Potomac. You are not very bright if you think rigor doesn’t matter to the top academic colleges.

This thread is about athletes. Schools look at GPA and SAT only, not rigor.

Untrue in our case. My DC was in an IB (International Baccalaureate) program at a private school. The NESCACs and other highly selective schools (Swarthmore, Haverford) that were interested were delighted that DC was in that program. Coaches frequently asked about how many AP and IB courses were taken and what the grades were in those classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No reputable college accepts/considers a “weighted” GPA. It’s a public school gimmick and elite colleges are well-aware. They look at GPA and rigor of course load. If they are unfamiliar with a school, they will give greater consideration to APs as these course are standardized across the country. It’s the only reliable standardized measurement left for public schools if the SAT/ACT is out or optional. Private schools are typically easier to judge rigor unless they are new or tiny.

Do private schools not weight GPA for APs?

Not all do. Some are moving away from it.