Falls Church PAC: noteworthy progression

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, clubs don't produce elite players, their parents produce them at home and then take them to a club.

+1, see pulisic’s youth coaches comments.

Genetics played a huge part. Both parents D-1 athletes . Semi pro athlete and coach. Even the top Arlington team isn't producing the next Pulisic.

Certainly not. And for the most part, no players at the top NCAA D1 schools for male soccer either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, clubs don't produce elite players, their parents produce them at home and then take them to a club.

+1, see pulisic’s youth coaches comments.

Genetics played a huge part. Both parents D-1 athletes . Semi pro athlete and coach. Even the top Arlington team isn't producing the next Pulisic.

Certainly not. And for the most part, no players at the top NCAA D1 schools for male soccer either.

Have you seen the typical Arlington parent ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, clubs don't produce elite players, their parents produce them at home and then take them to a club.

+1
Clubs want you to believe it was all them, but reality is players get to "elite" level only if they're getting individual training outside the club.


Not very familiar with the club, but did these kids leave mid-season? If PAC did have the hand in their development as its being made out, you would think they would've shown some loyalty to team and
club to finish out the season. From my experience, kids/families that leave mid season are usually unhappy about something.

Pac as a club wants the players to reach their maximum potential and if its at a higher level than they have at Pac then they help them find a higher level and wish them well.There is never any bitterness or hard feelings.

I don't doubt you or any of the other positive things posted here. But, it's still a business and can't imagine losing players as a top priority.

Also, without knowing the details, my assumption with "helping them find a higher level" doesn't mean for players to leave mid-season (if thats what happened), bailing on the team b/c of whatever reason, leaving teammates, coaches, and parents high and dry

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, clubs don't produce elite players, their parents produce them at home and then take them to a club.

+1
Clubs want you to believe it was all them, but reality is players get to "elite" level only if they're getting individual training outside the club.


Not very familiar with the club, but did these kids leave mid-season? If PAC did have the hand in their development as its being made out, you would think they would've shown some loyalty to team and
club to finish out the season. From my experience, kids/families that leave mid season are usually unhappy about something.

Pac as a club wants the players to reach their maximum potential and if its at a higher level than they have at Pac then they help them find a higher level and wish them well.There is never any bitterness or hard feelings.

I don't doubt you or any of the other positive things posted here. But, it's still a business and can't imagine losing players as a top priority.

Also, without knowing the details, my assumption with "helping them find a higher level" doesn't mean for players to leave mid-season (if thats what happened), bailing on the team b/c of whatever reason, leaving teammates, coaches, and parents high and dry

If a club can market themselves as a legitimate pathway into top youth leagues for players they would draw more players. Sure they "lose" those players but they gain a reputation as a club that develops, that in turn will attract players.

[Anonymous]

My daughter played for PAC until last year and while players left, it was typically at the end of the spring season (like around now, which is when we left). We had 1 player leave between seasons because they wanted a break from soccer altogether and to start focusing on another sport. I don't think many players leave midseason, it would be hard to get rostered for a new team to play if you did that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, clubs don't produce elite players, their parents produce them at home and then take them to a club.

+1
Clubs want you to believe it was all them, but reality is players get to "elite" level only if they're getting individual training outside the club.


Not very familiar with the club, but did these kids leave mid-season? If PAC did have the hand in their development as its being made out, you would think they would've shown some loyalty to team and
club to finish out the season. From my experience, kids/families that leave mid season are usually unhappy about something.

Pac as a club wants the players to reach their maximum potential and if its at a higher level than they have at Pac then they help them find a higher level and wish them well.There is never any bitterness or hard feelings.

I don't doubt you or any of the other positive things posted here. But, it's still a business and can't imagine losing players as a top priority.

Also, without knowing the details, my assumption with "helping them find a higher level" doesn't mean for players to leave mid-season (if thats what happened), bailing on the team b/c of whatever reason, leaving teammates, coaches, and parents high and dry

If a club can market themselves as a legitimate pathway into top youth leagues for players they would draw more players. Sure they "lose" those players but they gain a reputation as a club that develops, that in turn will attract players.

I don't think that placing a kid on Arlington's third team will get them very far as a marketing strategy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, clubs don't produce elite players, their parents produce them at home and then take them to a club.

+1
Clubs want you to believe it was all them, but reality is players get to "elite" level only if they're getting individual training outside the club.


Not very familiar with the club, but did these kids leave mid-season? If PAC did have the hand in their development as its being made out, you would think they would've shown some loyalty to team and
club to finish out the season. From my experience, kids/families that leave mid season are usually unhappy about something.

Pac as a club wants the players to reach their maximum potential and if its at a higher level than they have at Pac then they help them find a higher level and wish them well.There is never any bitterness or hard feelings.

I don't doubt you or any of the other positive things posted here. But, it's still a business and can't imagine losing players as a top priority.

Also, without knowing the details, my assumption with "helping them find a higher level" doesn't mean for players to leave mid-season (if thats what happened), bailing on the team b/c of whatever reason, leaving teammates, coaches, and parents high and dry

If a club can market themselves as a legitimate pathway into top youth leagues for players they would draw more players. Sure they "lose" those players but they gain a reputation as a club that develops, that in turn will attract players.

I don't think that placing a kid on Arlington's third team will get them very far as a marketing strategy

I agree, in fact I posted earlier that their placement target needs to be DC United, other MLSNext teams and ECNL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, clubs don't produce elite players, their parents produce them at home and then take them to a club.

+1
Clubs want you to believe it was all them, but reality is players get to "elite" level only if they're getting individual training outside the club.


Not very familiar with the club, but did these kids leave mid-season? If PAC did have the hand in their development as its being made out, you would think they would've shown some loyalty to team and
club to finish out the season. From my experience, kids/families that leave mid season are usually unhappy about something.

Pac as a club wants the players to reach their maximum potential and if its at a higher level than they have at Pac then they help them find a higher level and wish them well.There is never any bitterness or hard feelings.

I don't doubt you or any of the other positive things posted here. But, it's still a business and can't imagine losing players as a top priority.

Also, without knowing the details, my assumption with "helping them find a higher level" doesn't mean for players to leave mid-season (if thats what happened), bailing on the team b/c of whatever reason, leaving teammates, coaches, and parents high and dry

The players didn't leave mid year. In both cases it was after spring season and there was open communication between players and club.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, clubs don't produce elite players, their parents produce them at home and then take them to a club.

+1
Clubs want you to believe it was all them, but reality is players get to "elite" level only if they're getting individual training outside the club.


Not very familiar with the club, but did these kids leave mid-season? If PAC did have the hand in their development as its being made out, you would think they would've shown some loyalty to team and
club to finish out the season. From my experience, kids/families that leave mid season are usually unhappy about something.

Pac as a club wants the players to reach their maximum potential and if its at a higher level than they have at Pac then they help them find a higher level and wish them well.There is never any bitterness or hard feelings.

I don't doubt you or any of the other positive things posted here. But, it's still a business and can't imagine losing players as a top priority.

Also, without knowing the details, my assumption with "helping them find a higher level" doesn't mean for players to leave mid-season (if thats what happened), bailing on the team b/c of whatever reason, leaving teammates, coaches, and parents high and dry

If a club can market themselves as a legitimate pathway into top youth leagues for players they would draw more players. Sure they "lose" those players but they gain a reputation as a club that develops, that in turn will attract players.

I don't think that placing a kid on Arlington's third team will get them very far as a marketing strategy

I agree, in fact I posted earlier that their placement target needs to be DC United, other MLSNext teams and ECNL.

Seriously, you would out your kid in PAC over what club, because they market that they develop their kid to play for Arlington? Would you move your kid from let's say Vienna to PAC because PAC develops kids to play for Arlington or McLean? Like Vienna doesn't do that or any other club? This is ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think that placing a kid on Arlington's third team will get them very far as a marketing strategy

Why do you focus on one example?

the other examples that started this thread are Arlington's second team. That seems similarly impressive

[Anonymous]

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously, you would out your kid in PAC over what club, because they market that they develop their kid to play for Arlington? Would you move your kid from let's say Vienna to PAC because PAC develops kids to play for Arlington or McLean? Like Vienna doesn't do that or any other club? This is ridiculous.

Depends. Players can go from low levels or even rec soccer at Vienna (or Arlington or McLean) to PAC and then somewhere else. Would they develop like that on the lower-level VYS teams? Maybe, maybe not. Get beyond the earlier ages, and a lot of PAC teams end up higher in the NCSL ladder than Vienna White or Black teams.

PAC is just a different environment. U9s through U12s all train together, they love soccer (as opposed to some athletic kids elsewhere who don't really care) and it's pretty cool. If you like that, great. If you prefer being on a third or fourth team somewhere with one coach who may or may not know what he or she is doing, that's a risk you take.

Different strokes and all.

Not sure why people feel the need to denigrate it.

two players left and the team fell off a cliff. That seems like the majority aren't being developed, certainly not in any way that they wouldn't be at competing clubs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, clubs don't produce elite players, their parents produce them at home and then take them to a club.

+1
Clubs want you to believe it was all them, but reality is players get to "elite" level only if they're getting individual training outside the club.


Not very familiar with the club, but did these kids leave mid-season? If PAC did have the hand in their development as its being made out, you would think they would've shown some loyalty to team and
club to finish out the season. From my experience, kids/families that leave mid season are usually unhappy about something.

Pac as a club wants the players to reach their maximum potential and if its at a higher level than they have at Pac then they help them find a higher level and wish them well.There is never any bitterness or hard feelings.

I don't doubt you or any of the other positive things posted here. But, it's still a business and can't imagine losing players as a top priority.

Also, without knowing the details, my assumption with "helping them find a higher level" doesn't mean for players to leave mid-season (if thats what happened), bailing on the team b/c of whatever reason, leaving teammates, coaches, and parents high and dry

If a club can market themselves as a legitimate pathway into top youth leagues for players they would draw more players. Sure they "lose" those players but they gain a reputation as a club that develops, that in turn will attract players.

I don't think that placing a kid on Arlington's third team will get them very far as a marketing strategy

I agree, in fact I posted earlier that their placement target needs to be DC United, other MLSNext teams and ECNL.

Seriously, you would out your kid in PAC over what club, because they market that they develop their kid to play for Arlington? Would you move your kid from let's say Vienna to PAC because PAC develops kids to play for Arlington or McLean? Like Vienna doesn't do that or any other club? This is ridiculous.

If a small, affordable, local club can develop my kid to eventually be able to play for DC United, yes I would sign up for that. But, the club has to focus on getting kids to the highest level of youth soccer not just the B or C teams of large clubs. Moving from PAC to Arlington's B or C team is really nothing more than a lateral move if the current PAC team is already a good team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, clubs don't produce elite players, their parents produce them at home and then take them to a club.

+1
Clubs want you to believe it was all them, but reality is players get to "elite" level only if they're getting individual training outside the club.


Not very familiar with the club, but did these kids leave mid-season? If PAC did have the hand in their development as its being made out, you would think they would've shown some loyalty to team and
club to finish out the season. From my experience, kids/families that leave mid season are usually unhappy about something.

Pac as a club wants the players to reach their maximum potential and if its at a higher level than they have at Pac then they help them find a higher level and wish them well.There is never any bitterness or hard feelings.

I don't doubt you or any of the other positive things posted here. But, it's still a business and can't imagine losing players as a top priority.

Also, without knowing the details, my assumption with "helping them find a higher level" doesn't mean for players to leave mid-season (if thats what happened), bailing on the team b/c of whatever reason, leaving teammates, coaches, and parents high and dry

If a club can market themselves as a legitimate pathway into top youth leagues for players they would draw more players. Sure they "lose" those players but they gain a reputation as a club that develops, that in turn will attract players.

I don't think that placing a kid on Arlington's third team will get them very far as a marketing strategy

I agree, in fact I posted earlier that their placement target needs to be DC United, other MLSNext teams and ECNL.

Seriously, you would out your kid in PAC over what club, because they market that they develop their kid to play for Arlington? Would you move your kid from let's say Vienna to PAC because PAC develops kids to play for Arlington or McLean? Like Vienna doesn't do that or any other club? This is ridiculous.

If a small, affordable, local club can develop my kid to eventually be able to play for DC United, yes I would sign up for that. But, the club has to focus on getting kids to the highest level of youth soccer not just the B or C teams of large clubs. Moving from PAC to Arlington's B or C team is really nothing more than a lateral move if the current PAC team is already a good team.

+1. If you advertise development, then you should be able to point to results

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, clubs don't produce elite players, their parents produce them at home and then take them to a club.

+1
Clubs want you to believe it was all them, but reality is players get to "elite" level only if they're getting individual training outside the club.


Not very familiar with the club, but did these kids leave mid-season? If PAC did have the hand in their development as its being made out, you would think they would've shown some loyalty to team and
club to finish out the season. From my experience, kids/families that leave mid season are usually unhappy about something.

Pac as a club wants the players to reach their maximum potential and if its at a higher level than they have at Pac then they help them find a higher level and wish them well.There is never any bitterness or hard feelings.

I don't doubt you or any of the other positive things posted here. But, it's still a business and can't imagine losing players as a top priority.

Also, without knowing the details, my assumption with "helping them find a higher level" doesn't mean for players to leave mid-season (if thats what happened), bailing on the team b/c of whatever reason, leaving teammates, coaches, and parents high and dry

If a club can market themselves as a legitimate pathway into top youth leagues for players they would draw more players. Sure they "lose" those players but they gain a reputation as a club that develops, that in turn will attract players.

I don't think that placing a kid on Arlington's third team will get them very far as a marketing strategy

I agree, in fact I posted earlier that their placement target needs to be DC United, other MLSNext teams and ECNL.

Seriously, you would out your kid in PAC over what club, because they market that they develop their kid to play for Arlington? Would you move your kid from let's say Vienna to PAC because PAC develops kids to play for Arlington or McLean? Like Vienna doesn't do that or any other club? This is ridiculous.

If a small, affordable, local club can develop my kid to eventually be able to play for DC United, yes I would sign up for that. But, the club has to focus on getting kids to the highest level of youth soccer not just the B or C teams of large clubs. Moving from PAC to Arlington's B or C team is really nothing more than a lateral move if the current PAC team is already a good team.

+1. If you advertise development, then you should be able to point to results

Ok. Plenty of dumb parents out there and lots of Arlington tiers for your kid. Enjoy.

[Anonymous]

This entire thread is so ridiculous that it had to be a troll post. I think OP posted this knowing that people would go after PAC. It's like me starting a post that says something like....Loudoun 07s put one player on DC United. They are a top development club in the area....knowing that people on this board love to kill Loudoun.