Applications down 21% on myschooldc

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure this has been covered, but the press release last week shows a 21% decline yoy in applications. I think this is just the tip of the iceberg. DCPS enrollment looks like it has plummeted and will continue to do so. And the city has only itself to blame.

https://www.myschooldc.org/sites/default/files/dc/sites/myschooldc/page/attachments/Final_PRESS%20RELEASE%20SY21-22%20Lottery%20Results.pdf


I think the city wants this. Much cheaper to operate a city that is a playground for the single and childless than provide services for families.


They are certainly acting like it.


Attracting single, childless college graduates has been the District's strategy since Anthony Williams. And is the strategy employed by most major American cities - and for good reason. That said, universal, but nor compulsory, PK3/PK4 is about as family friendly you can get; all DCPL-owned libraries have been rebuilt/in planning, schools and parks rebuilt. I feel much more "supported" by the District (parent of 2) than my friends will kids in the suburbs and other area.


Pk3/PK4 is not universal in DC in the sense that anyone who wants it can get it.
I think we have a great ECE program here, but I would not call it universal.



IT IS UNIVERSAL. There is a prek3/4 seat for EVERY child in the city. Its just not at your closest school or a school you are willing to send your child to. That’s your choice. But everyone has a seat


That's true. But when you are assessing the utility of the program and how much value one should place on the program in terms of where to live, it is also important to consider what you will have to sacrifice to be able to use the program.

There is a difference between not being at the "closest" school and not being able to get a spot at a school that is logistically feasible. The best option we ever had would have added 45 minutes to our commute each way. Yes, it was my choice to turn down this option, but the costs to this "free" service would have been prohibitive.


What would your solution be? Have the city add more pre-K classes to your closest school by taking away k-5 classrooms? Your choice is to go where there are seats or shut up


Well that took an interesting nasty turn. One solution would be to expand school capacity, but that's really beside the point.

I'm not arguing what they should or should not do. I'm simply arguing that, for many people, "universal" preK ain't all that it is cracked up to be because it is hard to use and access. And because you may not be able to access it in a functional way, you shouldn't value that "benefit" to DC as highly as you would if preK were more accessible in many neighborhood schools.

In fact, that the existing system requires you to "go where the seats [are, even if extremely inconvenient] or shut up," and simply not use preK proves my point.


You have your head up your ward three butt.

No one feels sorry for you nor does anyone choose to move to your neighborhood because of UPK. No, that’s my neighborhood over here in Ward 5. It’s absolutely a thing.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure this has been covered, but the press release last week shows a 21% decline yoy in applications. I think this is just the tip of the iceberg. DCPS enrollment looks like it has plummeted and will continue to do so. And the city has only itself to blame.

https://www.myschooldc.org/sites/default/files/dc/sites/myschooldc/page/attachments/Final_PRESS%20RELEASE%20SY21-22%20Lottery%20Results.pdf


I think the city wants this. Much cheaper to operate a city that is a playground for the single and childless than provide services for families.


They are certainly acting like it.


Attracting single, childless college graduates has been the District's strategy since Anthony Williams. And is the strategy employed by most major American cities - and for good reason. That said, universal, but nor compulsory, PK3/PK4 is about as family friendly you can get; all DCPL-owned libraries have been rebuilt/in planning, schools and parks rebuilt. I feel much more "supported" by the District (parent of 2) than my friends will kids in the suburbs and other area.


Pk3/PK4 is not universal in DC in the sense that anyone who wants it can get it.
I think we have a great ECE program here, but I would not call it universal.



IT IS UNIVERSAL. There is a prek3/4 seat for EVERY child in the city. Its just not at your closest school or a school you are willing to send your child to. That’s your choice. But everyone has a seat


That's true. But when you are assessing the utility of the program and how much value one should place on the program in terms of where to live, it is also important to consider what you will have to sacrifice to be able to use the program.

There is a difference between not being at the "closest" school and not being able to get a spot at a school that is logistically feasible. The best option we ever had would have added 45 minutes to our commute each way. Yes, it was my choice to turn down this option, but the costs to this "free" service would have been prohibitive.


What would your solution be? Have the city add more pre-K classes to your closest school by taking away k-5 classrooms? Your choice is to go where there are seats or shut up


More stand alone Prk programs. Vouchers for low & middle income families for private daycares that include a preschool program. Aftercare seats available for all pre-k (and elementary for that matter) students.
Year round preschool - daycare programs for the breaks & summer if not doing academics all year at least for title 1 and low-middle income families.
Another option would be having enough Prk DCPR summer & school break seats for everyone or at least title 1 schools and kids/families. Allowing families to miss 2-3 weeks of non- academic/ school days or opt out of 12 month program care without losing their seats. Perhaps having lottery for 12 month & 9 month kind of like when you select spanish or french or english program at a school
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Anonymous wrote:Not sure this has been covered, but the press release last week shows a 21% decline yoy in applications. I think this is just the tip of the iceberg. DCPS enrollment looks like it has plummeted and will continue to do so. And the city has only itself to blame.

https://www.myschooldc.org/sites/default/files/dc/sites/myschooldc/page/attachments/Final_PRESS%20RELEASE%20SY21-22%20Lottery%20Results.pdf


I think the city wants this. Much cheaper to operate a city that is a playground for the single and childless than provide services for families.


They are certainly acting like it.


Attracting single, childless college graduates has been the District's strategy since Anthony Williams. And is the strategy employed by most major American cities - and for good reason. That said, universal, but nor compulsory, PK3/PK4 is about as family friendly you can get; all DCPL-owned libraries have been rebuilt/in planning, schools and parks rebuilt. I feel much more "supported" by the District (parent of 2) than my friends will kids in the suburbs and other area.


Pk3/PK4 is not universal in DC in the sense that anyone who wants it can get it.
I think we have a great ECE program here, but I would not call it universal.



IT IS UNIVERSAL. There is a prek3/4 seat for EVERY child in the city. Its just not at your closest school or a school you are willing to send your child to. That’s your choice. But everyone has a seat


That's true. But when you are assessing the utility of the program and how much value one should place on the program in terms of where to live, it is also important to consider what you will have to sacrifice to be able to use the program.

There is a difference between not being at the "closest" school and not being able to get a spot at a school that is logistically feasible. The best option we ever had would have added 45 minutes to our commute each way. Yes, it was my choice to turn down this option, but the costs to this "free" service would have been prohibitive.


What would your solution be? Have the city add more pre-K classes to your closest school by taking away k-5 classrooms? Your choice is to go where there are seats or shut up


Well that took an interesting nasty turn. One solution would be to expand school capacity, but that's really beside the point.

I'm not arguing what they should or should not do. I'm simply arguing that, for many people, "universal" preK ain't all that it is cracked up to be because it is hard to use and access. And because you may not be able to access it in a functional way, you shouldn't value that "benefit" to DC as highly as you would if preK were more accessible in many neighborhood schools.

In fact, that the existing system requires you to "go where the seats [are, even if extremely inconvenient] or shut up," and simply not use preK proves my point.


You have your head up your ward three butt.

No one feels sorry for you nor does anyone choose to move to your neighborhood because of UPK. No, that’s my neighborhood over here in Ward 5. It’s absolutely a thing.



You keep proving my point, despite your hostility. Many people don't really factor in UPK in Ward 3 because it in many respects isn't universal for people in that Ward.

No one is asking for your sympathies and no one has said that PK isn't a bigger factor in other Wards (such as 5) where there is much greater access to the program. But, your evidence disdain for people in Ward 3 doesn't mean they aren't part of the city.
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Anonymous wrote:Not sure this has been covered, but the press release last week shows a 21% decline yoy in applications. I think this is just the tip of the iceberg. DCPS enrollment looks like it has plummeted and will continue to do so. And the city has only itself to blame.

https://www.myschooldc.org/sites/default/files/dc/sites/myschooldc/page/attachments/Final_PRESS%20RELEASE%20SY21-22%20Lottery%20Results.pdf


I think the city wants this. Much cheaper to operate a city that is a playground for the single and childless than provide services for families.


They are certainly acting like it.


Attracting single, childless college graduates has been the District's strategy since Anthony Williams. And is the strategy employed by most major American cities - and for good reason. That said, universal, but nor compulsory, PK3/PK4 is about as family friendly you can get; all DCPL-owned libraries have been rebuilt/in planning, schools and parks rebuilt. I feel much more "supported" by the District (parent of 2) than my friends will kids in the suburbs and other area.


Pk3/PK4 is not universal in DC in the sense that anyone who wants it can get it.
I think we have a great ECE program here, but I would not call it universal.



IT IS UNIVERSAL. There is a prek3/4 seat for EVERY child in the city. Its just not at your closest school or a school you are willing to send your child to. That’s your choice. But everyone has a seat


That's true. But when you are assessing the utility of the program and how much value one should place on the program in terms of where to live, it is also important to consider what you will have to sacrifice to be able to use the program.

There is a difference between not being at the "closest" school and not being able to get a spot at a school that is logistically feasible. The best option we ever had would have added 45 minutes to our commute each way. Yes, it was my choice to turn down this option, but the costs to this "free" service would have been prohibitive.


What would your solution be? Have the city add more pre-K classes to your closest school by taking away k-5 classrooms? Your choice is to go where there are seats or shut up


Well that took an interesting nasty turn. One solution would be to expand school capacity, but that's really beside the point.

I'm not arguing what they should or should not do. I'm simply arguing that, for many people, "universal" preK ain't all that it is cracked up to be because it is hard to use and access. And because you may not be able to access it in a functional way, you shouldn't value that "benefit" to DC as highly as you would if preK were more accessible in many neighborhood schools.

In fact, that the existing system requires you to "go where the seats [are, even if extremely inconvenient] or shut up," and simply not use preK proves my point.


Expand capacity at Ward 3 schools to a accommodate more pre-K? Hahahahahahaha.
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Anonymous wrote:Not sure this has been covered, but the press release last week shows a 21% decline yoy in applications. I think this is just the tip of the iceberg. DCPS enrollment looks like it has plummeted and will continue to do so. And the city has only itself to blame.

https://www.myschooldc.org/sites/default/files/dc/sites/myschooldc/page/attachments/Final_PRESS%20RELEASE%20SY21-22%20Lottery%20Results.pdf


I think the city wants this. Much cheaper to operate a city that is a playground for the single and childless than provide services for families.


They are certainly acting like it.


This is silly. DC is at the extreme high-end of dollars per pupil. They are one of the few cities in the country offering full-day, free PK3. You may not agree with the approach, but it's pretty hard to question the commitment.


Actually it's not. If they were committed, they would...you know...allow kids to attend school, like they do in most of the rest of the country.


But not most of the rest of the region. And, there's a purality of schools back in the rest of the country but not a majority.
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Anonymous wrote:People are leaving DC, probably in part because schools have been closed for so long.

Redfin:

"New York, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Washington, D.C. and Chicago top the list of places Redfin.com users were looking to leave in October and November, as they did in the second and third quarters of this year.

There has been a 95% uptick in the net outflow of people looking to leave Washington, D.C. since October and November of last year."


WTF does that even mean? Redfin searches? Wow, what a hard-hitting metric. Wake me up when count day passes.


Also hello election year. That always happens
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Ward 3 parents needing free pre k think they are a voting bloc anyone cares about

I needed a laugh before bed.
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Anonymous wrote:Ward 3 parents needing free pre k think they are a voting bloc anyone cares about

I needed a laugh before bed.


How did this thread turn into an argument about pre-k in ward 3? Sorry you can’t afford to live here but you should try to be less obsessed with us.

Anyway, our kids won’t be in DCPS in the fall because we don’t trust DCPS to be fully open 5 days a week. We won’t be reflected in that 21% decline number because we were never in the lottery in the first place.
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The whole families want to live in the city thing might have peaked.
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People are voting with their feet. We need more private schools.
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Anonymous wrote:People are voting with their feet. We need more private schools.


That’s not how this works but good luck.

I hope the privates are raising their rates for new people because apparently they can.
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Anonymous wrote:Ward 3 parents needing free pre k think they are a voting bloc anyone cares about

I needed a laugh before bed.


Universal means universal.

For everyone, rich and poor.

This is how we bring people together— universal programs. There’s a reason Social Security applies to Ward 3 as much as anywhere else — universal programs bring the country together.

Don’t fight to take things you have too away from other people.
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Anonymous wrote:The whole families want to live in the city thing might have peaked.


You wish, closet Republican who hates DC.

Instead, your party is hemorrhaging votes elsewhere as cities continue to grow and resist GOP anti-intellectualism and anti-democracy efforts.
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Anonymous wrote:The whole families want to live in the city thing might have peaked.


You wish, closet Republican who hates DC.

Instead, your party is hemorrhaging votes elsewhere as cities continue to grow and resist GOP anti-intellectualism and anti-democracy efforts.



What part of "applications are down 21 percent" do you not understand?

Not to point out the obvious, but it's DC that has banned children from going to school. Schools in the vast majority of the rest of the country are completely opened. In many red states, schools never closed during the pandemic.

A child in Alabama is going to have a full year more of school than a same-aged child in DCPS. Which means your child is going to get smoked by that kid in Alabama when it comes time for standardized tests.
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Anonymous wrote:The whole families want to live in the city thing might have peaked.


You wish, closet Republican who hates DC.

Instead, your party is hemorrhaging votes elsewhere as cities continue to grow and resist GOP anti-intellectualism and anti-democracy efforts.



What part of "applications are down 21 percent" do you not understand?

Not to point out the obvious, but it's DC that has banned children from going to school. Schools in the vast majority of the rest of the country are completely opened. In many red states, schools never closed during the pandemic.

A child in Alabama is going to have a full year more of school than a same-aged child in DCPS. Which means your child is going to get smoked by that kid in Alabama when it comes time for standardized tests.




Hahahahahahaha. The state with the worst education outcomes in the country is going to “smoke” kids on standardized tests here. I can’t wait.
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