Applications down 21% on myschooldc

Anonymous
Almost anyone who wants a spot can find one within 2 miles of their house except maybe people in upper northwest. I live near u street and there is a charter that has almost no waitlist!
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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure why the assumption that applications will continue to go down. This year was an anomaly because of the mostly-virtual school year and unknown 2021-22 plans. Lots of more affluent parents of 3-4 year olds decided to keeo their kids in full time daycare, at private preschools or with nanny rather than go for public PK. And some other parents switched kids to parochial or other private schools.

Beyond that, again for parents of the youngest students especially, some families moved out of the city to all kids of different places where they have extended family and/or where schools were more open and they've decided to stay there (a trend among childless people who can work remotely and want a lower cost of living too).


Those affluent parents would be lottering in for next year (which is what this data reflects- how people are looking at next year) if they planned to attend. And yes, you are exactly right- people fled the city to place where schools were and plan to be OPEN. If you have a kid in 5th or above, there is little confidence in the fact that they will be in school full time next year, despite the mayor's declarations. The schools themselves are not convinced.

I believe the decline will snowball because I think once parents lose confidence in a system, it spreads. And in the DC area, there are so many choices - privates, MD, VA, etc., that parents can leave fairly easily.


You don’t need to use the lottery or MSDC if you plan on attending your neighborhood school. I’m not saying their hasn’t been a decline, but I’m sure there’s plenty of parents deciding between private and public, or who skipped MSDC entirely because they’ll just be enrolling instead.



We will really know in October/Nov, but I would expect a larger decline than myschoolsdc. Anecdotally there are tons or reports of so many missing kids who never showed up to online school - and that will all come out in the wash in enrollment season. If anything, I would expect there would be more interest in charters this year than dcps, relatively speaking.
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Anonymous wrote:Not sure this has been covered, but the press release last week shows a 21% decline yoy in applications. I think this is just the tip of the iceberg. DCPS enrollment looks like it has plummeted and will continue to do so. And the city has only itself to blame.

https://www.myschooldc.org/sites/default/files/dc/sites/myschooldc/page/attachments/Final_PRESS%20RELEASE%20SY21-22%20Lottery%20Results.pdf


This datapoint could also be evidence that familiies are hesitant to change from a known quantity (i.e., current care/school). Evidence of your iceberg will be the reenrollment numbers.

This data is not limited to DCPS but also to the participating charter schools.


The MySchool press release tried out this narrative but I'm skeptical given the demand all private schools have seen.
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Anonymous wrote:Not sure this has been covered, but the press release last week shows a 21% decline yoy in applications. I think this is just the tip of the iceberg. DCPS enrollment looks like it has plummeted and will continue to do so. And the city has only itself to blame.

https://www.myschooldc.org/sites/default/files/dc/sites/myschooldc/page/attachments/Final_PRESS%20RELEASE%20SY21-22%20Lottery%20Results.pdf


I think the city wants this. Much cheaper to operate a city that is a playground for the single and childless than provide services for families.


They are certainly acting like it.


Attracting single, childless college graduates has been the District's strategy since Anthony Williams. And is the strategy employed by most major American cities - and for good reason. That said, universal, but nor compulsory, PK3/PK4 is about as family friendly you can get; all DCPL-owned libraries have been rebuilt/in planning, schools and parks rebuilt. I feel much more "supported" by the District (parent of 2) than my friends will kids in the suburbs and other area.


How old are your kids though? Once you are through PK, priorities change.


One is past PK; the other is not. I guess my question to you is what do you believe is missing?


As a parent of middle schoolers, DC has utterly failed this year and doesn't look like its going to do a whole lot better next year. That's what's missing.
Anonymous
I'm the parent of a rising 5th grader, and I've noticed that the waitlists for both Latin and Basis are down by half. Have that people really moved or found private seats? Where are all these private schools offering seats, and how are people affording the burbs in this crazy real estate market?
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Anonymous wrote:I'm the parent of a rising 5th grader, and I've noticed that the waitlists for both Latin and Basis are down by half. Have that people really moved or found private seats? Where are all these private schools offering seats, and how are people affording the burbs in this crazy real estate market?


Yes.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm the parent of a rising 5th grader, and I've noticed that the waitlists for both Latin and Basis are down by half. Have that people really moved or found private seats? Where are all these private schools offering seats, and how are people affording the burbs in this crazy real estate market?
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House in Petworth purchased in 2004. Paid off in 2019 and sold for $750k. Staying in an apt through the end of the school year for two day a week school and to finish out a terminal year for our oldest with her friends.

Couldn't quite pay cash for our new place in Ellicot City but came close.
Anonymous
We know a few people who left DC for good. It was less about the schools, though, and more because of full time telework and a desire to be closer to family during Covid.
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Anonymous wrote:Not sure this has been covered, but the press release last week shows a 21% decline yoy in applications. I think this is just the tip of the iceberg. DCPS enrollment looks like it has plummeted and will continue to do so. And the city has only itself to blame.

https://www.myschooldc.org/sites/default/files/dc/sites/myschooldc/page/attachments/Final_PRESS%20RELEASE%20SY21-22%20Lottery%20Results.pdf


I think the city wants this. Much cheaper to operate a city that is a playground for the single and childless than provide services for families.


They are certainly acting like it.


Attracting single, childless college graduates has been the District's strategy since Anthony Williams. And is the strategy employed by most major American cities - and for good reason. That said, universal, but nor compulsory, PK3/PK4 is about as family friendly you can get; all DCPL-owned libraries have been rebuilt/in planning, schools and parks rebuilt. I feel much more "supported" by the District (parent of 2) than my friends will kids in the suburbs and other area.


Pk3/PK4 is not universal in DC in the sense that anyone who wants it can get it.
I think we have a great ECE program here, but I would not call it universal.



IT IS UNIVERSAL. There is a prek3/4 seat for EVERY child in the city. Its just not at your closest school or a school you are willing to send your child to. That’s your choice. But everyone has a seat
Anonymous
The DC government cares more about WTU's *feelings* about coronavirus than educating children.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not sure this has been covered, but the press release last week shows a 21% decline yoy in applications. I think this is just the tip of the iceberg. DCPS enrollment looks like it has plummeted and will continue to do so. And the city has only itself to blame.

https://www.myschooldc.org/sites/default/files/dc/sites/myschooldc/page/attachments/Final_PRESS%20RELEASE%20SY21-22%20Lottery%20Results.pdf


I think the city wants this. Much cheaper to operate a city that is a playground for the single and childless than provide services for families.


They are certainly acting like it.


Attracting single, childless college graduates has been the District's strategy since Anthony Williams. And is the strategy employed by most major American cities - and for good reason. That said, universal, but nor compulsory, PK3/PK4 is about as family friendly you can get; all DCPL-owned libraries have been rebuilt/in planning, schools and parks rebuilt. I feel much more "supported" by the District (parent of 2) than my friends will kids in the suburbs and other area.


Pk3/PK4 is not universal in DC in the sense that anyone who wants it can get it.
I think we have a great ECE program here, but I would not call it universal.



IT IS UNIVERSAL. There is a prek3/4 seat for EVERY child in the city. Its just not at your closest school or a school you are willing to send your child to. That’s your choice. But everyone has a seat


Yep. Universal and not means tested are the best things going for it.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not sure this has been covered, but the press release last week shows a 21% decline yoy in applications. I think this is just the tip of the iceberg. DCPS enrollment looks like it has plummeted and will continue to do so. And the city has only itself to blame.

https://www.myschooldc.org/sites/default/files/dc/sites/myschooldc/page/attachments/Final_PRESS%20RELEASE%20SY21-22%20Lottery%20Results.pdf


I think the city wants this. Much cheaper to operate a city that is a playground for the single and childless than provide services for families.


They are certainly acting like it.


Attracting single, childless college graduates has been the District's strategy since Anthony Williams. And is the strategy employed by most major American cities - and for good reason. That said, universal, but nor compulsory, PK3/PK4 is about as family friendly you can get; all DCPL-owned libraries have been rebuilt/in planning, schools and parks rebuilt. I feel much more "supported" by the District (parent of 2) than my friends will kids in the suburbs and other area.


Pk3/PK4 is not universal in DC in the sense that anyone who wants it can get it.
I think we have a great ECE program here, but I would not call it universal.



IT IS UNIVERSAL. There is a prek3/4 seat for EVERY child in the city. Its just not at your closest school or a school you are willing to send your child to. That’s your choice. But everyone has a seat


That's true. But when you are assessing the utility of the program and how much value one should place on the program in terms of where to live, it is also important to consider what you will have to sacrifice to be able to use the program.

There is a difference between not being at the "closest" school and not being able to get a spot at a school that is logistically feasible. The best option we ever had would have added 45 minutes to our commute each way. Yes, it was my choice to turn down this option, but the costs to this "free" service would have been prohibitive.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not sure this has been covered, but the press release last week shows a 21% decline yoy in applications. I think this is just the tip of the iceberg. DCPS enrollment looks like it has plummeted and will continue to do so. And the city has only itself to blame.

https://www.myschooldc.org/sites/default/files/dc/sites/myschooldc/page/attachments/Final_PRESS%20RELEASE%20SY21-22%20Lottery%20Results.pdf


I think the city wants this. Much cheaper to operate a city that is a playground for the single and childless than provide services for families.


They are certainly acting like it.


Attracting single, childless college graduates has been the District's strategy since Anthony Williams. And is the strategy employed by most major American cities - and for good reason. That said, universal, but nor compulsory, PK3/PK4 is about as family friendly you can get; all DCPL-owned libraries have been rebuilt/in planning, schools and parks rebuilt. I feel much more "supported" by the District (parent of 2) than my friends will kids in the suburbs and other area.


Pk3/PK4 is not universal in DC in the sense that anyone who wants it can get it.
I think we have a great ECE program here, but I would not call it universal.



IT IS UNIVERSAL. There is a prek3/4 seat for EVERY child in the city. Its just not at your closest school or a school you are willing to send your child to. That’s your choice. But everyone has a seat


That's true. But when you are assessing the utility of the program and how much value one should place on the program in terms of where to live, it is also important to consider what you will have to sacrifice to be able to use the program.

There is a difference between not being at the "closest" school and not being able to get a spot at a school that is logistically feasible. The best option we ever had would have added 45 minutes to our commute each way. Yes, it was my choice to turn down this option, but the costs to this "free" service would have been prohibitive.


What would your solution be? Have the city add more pre-K classes to your closest school by taking away k-5 classrooms? Your choice is to go where there are seats or shut up
Anonymous
Couple observations from the perspective of a mom whose kid is supposedly headed to PK3 in the fall:

1) I'm curious how many first time moms and dads missed the deadline. I am very new to the schools game but EdFest was poorly publicized. I get it's a national paper, but I wish WaPo dedicated more prominent space to some of these DC-local issues vs ad nauseum political and cultural click bait. It's tough for things like EdFest to spread by word of mouth if you aren't seeing people. I wonder how participation compared to previous years.

2) At the virtual open houses I attended, only one school was straightforward about their re-opening metrics. They said they expect PK3 to come back last and that they had staffing issues to work out in that grade. I appreciated their honesty vs a generic "when it's safe" response from everyone else (IPL is a necessity for me but I actually ranked that school higher because I thought it might be a proxy for other communications issues down the line). Totally understand that a pandemic does not work like a train schedule, but some families who need IPL may prefer the certainty of an existing child care arrangement vs risking it on virtual PK3. We matched at a DCPS and I am still reluctant to say we don't need care. I don't want the rug pulled out from me in August.

3) The virtual presentations I attended were really underwhelming. You couldn't see the physical space - which if you are concerned about ventilation or overcrowding or just want to see where your kid is going to be spending their time, is not helpful. Several spent more time on their food allergies policies (I know it's important!) than on how they might handle COVID safety, regardless of date of re-opening. I feel like I have a good sense of risk at schools and elsewhere because I have to keep up to date on that for my job (recognizing risk tolerance is a different thing). Others might have a harder time and default to a lower risk option.

4) It is unlikely that there will be widespread vaccinations for the youngest children in the fall. My kid has been in daycare since May, so student vaccinations are not a deal-breaker for me, but it may be for others who have lots of flexibility.


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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not sure this has been covered, but the press release last week shows a 21% decline yoy in applications. I think this is just the tip of the iceberg. DCPS enrollment looks like it has plummeted and will continue to do so. And the city has only itself to blame.

https://www.myschooldc.org/sites/default/files/dc/sites/myschooldc/page/attachments/Final_PRESS%20RELEASE%20SY21-22%20Lottery%20Results.pdf


This datapoint could also be evidence that familiies are hesitant to change from a known quantity (i.e., current care/school). Evidence of your iceberg will be the reenrollment numbers.

This data is not limited to DCPS but also to the participating charter schools.





The breakdown of application numbers by grade reflects this--entry years (PK, 6, 9) were still pretty high. MSDC's read on it is that families are opting to stay put.
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