Why is Janney not fully open 4 days a week vs Murch and Lafayette?

Anonymous
Yes, many kids had to change teachers and classes at Lafayette. But, it’s well worth it for 4 days of live instruction.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Janney is not fully open for any grades. K and first only go 2.5 hrs/ day (let’s not call it “half days” since it’s not even that) and I know 5th only goes 2 2.5 hour sessions/week. I understand 2nd grade was not able to offer slots to everyone who wants it. To add insult to injury, the number of live instructional time has plummeted and my child now basically has two days/week with barely any class time.
Meanwhile, I understand that both Murch and Lafayette (two schools with larger school populations) are able to offer 4 days/week to anyone who wants it. Janney leadership gets defensive and doesn’t want to get into why Janney isn’t able to do the same.

Vote for better leadership next time. These people are massive failures.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Janney is not fully open for any grades. K and first only go 2.5 hrs/ day (let’s not call it “half days” since it’s not even that) and I know 5th only goes 2 2.5 hour sessions/week. I understand 2nd grade was not able to offer slots to everyone who wants it. To add insult to injury, the number of live instructional time has plummeted and my child now basically has two days/week with barely any class time.
Meanwhile, I understand that both Murch and Lafayette (two schools with larger school populations) are able to offer 4 days/week to anyone who wants it. Janney leadership gets defensive and doesn’t want to get into why Janney isn’t able to do the same.


Lafayette offered spots to a very large majority, but not all who want it. There is also a fair amount of learning that is still happening virtually but in the school. It’s a huge difference to be in the school or not, but the actual IPL for some grades may not be too different.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Janney is not fully open for any grades. K and first only go 2.5 hrs/ day (let’s not call it “half days” since it’s not even that) and I know 5th only goes 2 2.5 hour sessions/week. I understand 2nd grade was not able to offer slots to everyone who wants it. To add insult to injury, the number of live instructional time has plummeted and my child now basically has two days/week with barely any class time.
Meanwhile, I understand that both Murch and Lafayette (two schools with larger school populations) are able to offer 4 days/week to anyone who wants it. Janney leadership gets defensive and doesn’t want to get into why Janney isn’t able to do the same.

Vote for better leadership next time. These people are massive failures.


Which leadership are you referring to, in terms of “vote for”?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What is the deal with second grade? I understand that many kids did not “win the lottery” to get an IPL slot.


I believe that now that all of the second grade teachers have agreed to come back starting next week, they are able to accommodate demand. Is that true?
Anonymous
eaton is open too and key and hearst
Anonymous
Ugh, I don’t know. I pulled my kid last month for full time 8:30-3, 5 days a week private because of it. Best decision I made all pandemic and just wish I had done it sooner.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is the deal with second grade? I understand that many kids did not “win the lottery” to get an IPL slot.


I believe that now that all of the second grade teachers have agreed to come back starting next week, they are able to accommodate demand. Is that true?


I'm not sure "agreed" is an accurate term.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is the deal with second grade? I understand that many kids did not “win the lottery” to get an IPL slot.


I believe that now that all of the second grade teachers have agreed to come back starting next week, they are able to accommodate demand. Is that true?


I'm not sure "agreed" is an accurate term.


Are you suggesting they were forced against their will?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Janney is not fully open for any grades. K and first only go 2.5 hrs/ day (let’s not call it “half days” since it’s not even that) and I know 5th only goes 2 2.5 hour sessions/week. I understand 2nd grade was not able to offer slots to everyone who wants it. To add insult to injury, the number of live instructional time has plummeted and my child now basically has two days/week with barely any class time.
Meanwhile, I understand that both Murch and Lafayette (two schools with larger school populations) are able to offer 4 days/week to anyone who wants it. Janney leadership gets defensive and doesn’t want to get into why Janney isn’t able to do the same.


Lafayette offered spots to a very large majority, but not all who want it. There is also a fair amount of learning that is still happening virtually but in the school. It’s a huge difference to be in the school or not, but the actual IPL for some grades may not be too different.


WRONG - the only learning happening virtually are the specials, and this is a result of the DCPS cohorting rules. If you are IPL, you are getting live teaching for the core academic instruction. The small handful of kids remaining virtual are taught by all virtual teachers. Get your facts straight.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The principal who my fellow Janney parents chased away with their constant demands did actually already answer the exact question in this thread when the Q4 plans were announced: It had to do with what the Q3 model was, in addition to the health and safety protocols. And the local school advisory team was involved in the decisions for both Q3 and Q4.

I realize it may be more satisfying emotionally to just assert that the principal is somehow not doing her job or that the teachers are being obstinate for no reason, but in reality, there's an explanation for this decision. Disliking the results of the decision doesn't also require you to pretend there was no reason for it.


I certainly am not one of the parents who chased her away, as I never complained to her about anything, but it seems pretty clear that poor decisions were made in Term 3, which now constrain their plans in Term 4. Otherwise it is hard to explain why Lafayette and Murch have achieved such radically more expansive and equitable reopenings than Janney.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because the principal isn’t willing to make staff come back.


And I guess she doesn’t care because she is leaving?


Where is she going?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The principal who my fellow Janney parents chased away with their constant demands did actually already answer the exact question in this thread when the Q4 plans were announced: It had to do with what the Q3 model was, in addition to the health and safety protocols. And the local school advisory team was involved in the decisions for both Q3 and Q4.

I realize it may be more satisfying emotionally to just assert that the principal is somehow not doing her job or that the teachers are being obstinate for no reason, but in reality, there's an explanation for this decision. Disliking the results of the decision doesn't also require you to pretend there was no reason for it.


I certainly am not one of the parents who chased her away, as I never complained to her about anything, but it seems pretty clear that poor decisions were made in Term 3, which now constrain their plans in Term 4. Otherwise it is hard to explain why Lafayette and Murch have achieved such radically more expansive and equitable reopenings than Janney.


Except that when the Q3 decision was made, it wasn't at all clear that Q4 would be able to be so different. And I preferred the Q3 options Janney had — most of the younger kids in person almost every day, keeping homerooms for most older students even if they couldn't come in person, no weird hybrid schedules, no "simulcasting" — to the ones at Lafayette and Murch. I also wonder if Janney had fewer teachers willing to come back before they were vaccinated and fewer available rooms, period, than the other schools (it's a smaller building than Lafayette, isn't it?).

Obviously, in hindsight, it's easy to say they should have set things up differently then so they'd be different now, but I'm not sure that means they were the wrong decisions at the time. Maybe it's Stockholm syndrome, but at this point after the last year, I'm happy to have more in-person instruction than I initially expected and am not all that fired up one way or the other about whether Q4 could have had slightly more. There's just not that much school left this year, period. Why be angry about exactly how little or how much there is in the remaining six or seven weeks?
Anonymous
I still don’t exactly understand how the decisions from Q3 meant that the offerings for Q4 were so slim. Can someone spell it out? Kids couldn’t switch teachers? But they did at Lafayette.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I still don’t exactly understand how the decisions from Q3 meant that the offerings for Q4 were so slim. Can someone spell it out? Kids couldn’t switch teachers? But they did at Lafayette.


Lafayette is not following the 3ft rule. I wouldn’t be surprised if they were not following this rule. Lafayette is also failing to provide teachers with proper breaks. Under contract teachers are to receive 45 min lunch breaks. At best they are getting 25 mins and are in the classroom unable to leave for bathroom breaks the rest of the day.
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