I hate test optional!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a child with great scores and I feel confident that will help them. It’s not test blind, op.

This ^^^ Test optional is not test blind. A high score will help set her apart. I’d feel a lot better about my child’s chances if they had a high test score.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Take a deep breath, or it's going to be a very long year for you. No particular spot was destined for your daughter, and it sounds like she'll be able to find success wherever she ends up.

--Class of '21 parent

This!

--Another Class of '21 parent

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This comes across terribly. You’re the parent I dread being around.

I'm suspecting they may actually have a heart attack well before next years Ivy day. Boy this poor kid... I'd hate to be her!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a child with great scores and I feel confident that will help them. It’s not test blind, op.

This ^^^ Test optional is not test blind. A high score will help set her apart. I’d feel a lot better about my child’s chances if they had a high test score.

Maybe. But think about it...people will only submit if they have high scores. Why would that be a differentiator?

In a normal year, yes it helps.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:35 ACT did not appear to help my kid
Currently on six waitlists
Only acceptances are at 2 safeties
Kid will be fine and is well prepared for college.

But here's the issue with testing.. the 35 or the 1550 or whatever is just ONE score on ONE test. It does not trump 4 years of a high school track record which will be complete with grades, class rank, athletic endeavors, leadership, community service, jobs etc. Why should it?

I am sorry that your kid is having a tough season but I really do think that people with high scores get an inflated sense of where they can get in, and that only sets them up for disappointment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:35 ACT did not appear to help my kid
Currently on six waitlists
Only acceptances are at 2 safeties
Kid will be fine and is well prepared for college.

But here's the issue with testing.. the 35 or the 1550 or whatever is just ONE score on ONE test. It does not trump 4 years of a high school track record which will be complete with grades, class rank, athletic endeavors, leadership, community service, jobs etc. Why should it?

I am sorry that your kid is having a tough season but I really do think that people with high scores get an inflated sense of where they can get in, and that only sets them up for disappointment.

The score validated the transcript. It’s useful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:35 ACT did not appear to help my kid
Currently on six waitlists
Only acceptances are at 2 safeties
Kid will be fine and is well prepared for college.

I think test-optional can suck both ways.

If colleges have two buckets and only compare your kid against others who turned in a test score? The likelihood that the test-score group had perfect scores is high.

Interesting point. Never occurred to me to have kid take the test a second time to shoot for a 36. Mostly joking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:35 ACT did not appear to help my kid
Currently on six waitlists
Only acceptances are at 2 safeties
Kid will be fine and is well prepared for college.

But here's the issue with testing.. the 35 or the 1550 or whatever is just ONE score on ONE test. It does not trump 4 years of a high school track record which will be complete with grades, class rank, athletic endeavors, leadership, community service, jobs etc. Why should it?

I am sorry that your kid is having a tough season but I really do think that people with high scores get an inflated sense of where they can get in, and that only sets them up for disappointment.

The score validated the transcript. It’s useful.

No it's testing a kids propensity to be a good test taker, and/or their parents ability to pay multiple thousands on test taking. It's inherently unfair assessment and biased at it's core so it can only be looking at as one small piece of the puzzle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:35 ACT did not appear to help my kid
Currently on six waitlists
Only acceptances are at 2 safeties
Kid will be fine and is well prepared for college.

But here's the issue with testing.. the 35 or the 1550 or whatever is just ONE score on ONE test. It does not trump 4 years of a high school track record which will be complete with grades, class rank, athletic endeavors, leadership, community service, jobs etc. Why should it?

I am sorry that your kid is having a tough season but I really do think that people with high scores get an inflated sense of where they can get in, and that only sets them up for disappointment.

The score validated the transcript. It’s useful.

No it's testing a kids propensity to be a good test taker, and/or their parents ability to pay multiple thousands on test taking tutoring. It's inherently unfair assessment and biased at it's core so it can only be looked at as one small piece of the puzzle.

whoops fixed my typos.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, op. That stinks.

But - test optional provides more opportunities to families who cannot afford tutors.

Check your entitlement at the door. The field is being leveled.

My daughter got a 1490 without a tutor or even a prep book from Barnes & Noble.

I'm not talking about kids who "only" get a 1490 as opposed to the 1550+ my daughter's tutor expects her to get as a result of their prep sessions. I'm talking about the kids who'd be in the 1200-1300 range and have also benefitted from easy grading (in some cases A's being handed out like candy) because of coronavirus and the move to Zoom school.

I agree with you that the field is being leveled. By taking away avenues for true high-achievers to shine, they're basically turning college admissions into a lottery as opposed to a meritocracy.

Sorry, but the data do not support your assumption (or superiority complex):

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nickmorrison/2020/01/29/its-gpas-not-standardized-tests-that-predict-college-success/?sh=2228dc9932bd

[Anonymous]

So OP, how much will this tutor cost you? Out of curiosity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:35 ACT did not appear to help my kid
Currently on six waitlists
Only acceptances are at 2 safeties
Kid will be fine and is well prepared for college.

But here's the issue with testing.. the 35 or the 1550 or whatever is just ONE score on ONE test. It does not trump 4 years of a high school track record which will be complete with grades, class rank, athletic endeavors, leadership, community service, jobs etc. Why should it?

I am sorry that your kid is having a tough season but I really do think that people with high scores get an inflated sense of where they can get in, and that only sets them up for disappointment.

Good transcript from top private.
The waitlists are not T30 schools there was no inflated expectation.
This is our youngest and we were experienced enough to have an option for worst case scenario All good.
Hard to explain though

[Anonymous]

The amount of privilege and entitlement in this post is disgusting.

You’re paying for a private tutor so your daughter can have top scores and you’re scared that some equally intelligent, equally qualified kid who doesn’t have access to a private tutor to pad their scores, who doesn’t test well, or who hasn’t been able to test because of covid closures might take a spot that your kid somehow deserves more?

Wow.

[Anonymous]

you sound kinda awful, OP. Not gonna lie. Your kid will be fine. The aren't owed anything. And be proud and happy for them for their scores. WHERE YOU GO is NOT WHO YOU ARE. Read the book.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The amount of privilege and entitlement in this post is disgusting.

You’re paying for a private tutor so your daughter can have top scores and you’re scared that some equally intelligent, equally qualified kid who doesn’t have access to a private tutor to pad their scores, who doesn’t test well, or who hasn’t been able to test because of covid closures might take a spot that your kid somehow deserves more?

Wow.

Has to be a troll, no one could be this stupid and obnoxious.