Lord and Taylor space in Friendship Heights

[Anonymous]

Should be a lower income development.

[Anonymous]

Mixed income, mixed use. Add another elementary and middle school too--there is enough space.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Should be a lower income development.

No, it should not. Property is much too valuable. I would love to see it become more desirable retail, but not likely I know

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Should be a lower income development.

No, it should not. Property is much too valuable. I would love to see it become more desirable retail, but not likely I know

By forcing it to be 'lower income', they'll successfully just block any development at all. It is a time-tested way to kill any development in WOTP NW DC. It is sinister, yet brilliant. It has worked perfectly for 50+ years.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don't you keep up with local news?

Life sciences/tech campus

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/development/elrich-seeks-developer-to-build-white-flint-life-sciences-tech-campus/

Snarky and wrong is not a good look..... lol

Be nice. This person clearly read too quickly and thought it was about the Lord & Taylor space in White Flint. Relax.

I would have been nice, or even ignored it — but for the snark. “I thought it was....” vs “Don’t you keep up....”
just rubbed me the wrong way. I appreciate your admonition, though, and I will try harder in the future at least some of the time.

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Anonymous wrote:When I read these threads and see other people say how much they miss Woody's and Garfinckels, I know I'm not alone.

We need a support group.

Yes! I’m in!

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Anonymous wrote:If i had powerball money I would buy it and make it a neighborhood swim club for the abutting Zip Codes

I would so love this! Good luck with the powerball!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Should be a lower income development.

No, it should not. Property is much too valuable. I would love to see it become more desirable retail, but not likely I know

By forcing it to be 'lower income', they'll successfully just block any development at all. It is a time-tested way to kill any development in WOTP NW DC. It is sinister, yet brilliant. It has worked perfectly for 50+ years.

So wait - spell this out for me, please. Someone will declare it for low income, no developer or renter will touch it, and it sits vacant for years?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone remember when the CC Clyde’s center had Walpole linens, Quatermaine’s coffee, and the Georgetown University Shop?

I remember Walpole’s and Marvelous Market, but not the other two. Was there also a store called the Cosmetic Center there? With imported cosmetics? Sort of like a precursor to stores like Ulta?

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Anonymous wrote:Everything in that area dies.

Yep, they tried to revitalized that area with the high end shops but man, what a dud that was. FH is where retail goes to die for some reason.

It was the wrong kind of high end: way too flashy. The older department stores, Brooks Brothers, Tiffany’s and Saks Jandal all did quite well there. Post-Covid though, could be a serious hit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When I read these threads and see other people say how much they miss Woody's and Garfinckels, I know I'm not alone.

We need a support group.

I feel like Britches was part of that era

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yep. I miss Woodies and Garfinkels, still. And I, too, have fond memories of the tea room at Lord and Taylor and shopping there for special dresses with my Mom.

So: Please, please support the Friendship Heights Saks. That’s one of the few remaining great shopping experiences from my childhood that’s still around.

I haven’t heard anything yet about plans for either of those spaces.

Saks is in a beautiful building, but the clothes are expensive and have a fairly narrow appeal and utility unsuitable for many people. I'm not advocating for fast fashion, which is often produced in a way that harms our environment and demeans the people who make those clothes. But, that said, I don't think Saks deserves our support out of nostalgia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don't you keep up with local news?

Life sciences/tech campus

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/development/elrich-seeks-developer-to-build-white-flint-life-sciences-tech-campus/

Snarky and wrong is not a good look..... lol

Be nice. This person clearly read too quickly and thought it was about the Lord & Taylor space in White Flint. Relax.

Be nice to the asshole? Why?

Or just look past it and move on? Choose kindness?

Kindness is good, as is correcting the error in a gracious and civil way. Note: civility precludes the use of swear words when unprovoked. BTW, using foul language is not a good look for you.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yep. I miss Woodies and Garfinkels, still. And I, too, have fond memories of the tea room at Lord and Taylor and shopping there for special dresses with my Mom.

So: Please, please support the Friendship Heights Saks. That’s one of the few remaining great shopping experiences from my childhood that’s still around.

I haven’t heard anything yet about plans for either of those spaces.

Saks is in a beautiful building, but the clothes are expensive and have a fairly narrow appeal and utility unsuitable for many people. I'm not advocating for fast fashion, which is often produced in a way that harms our environment and demeans the people who make those clothes. But, that said, I don't think Saks deserves our support out of nostalgia.

Oh please. Only in Washington

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Should be a lower income development.

No, it should not. Property is much too valuable. I would love to see it become more desirable retail, but not likely I know

By forcing it to be 'lower income', they'll successfully just block any development at all. It is a time-tested way to kill any development in WOTP NW DC. It is sinister, yet brilliant. It has worked perfectly for 50+ years.

They'll probably add some stipulations that at least a portion of the units are lower income, like in other developments in the city. At least in DC, developers are actually given incentives to provide a portion of their overall project (25% for example) as affordable housing. One incentive would be they can build higher than they would usually be permitted to if they have "X" amount of affordable units. They also get tax breaks for providing the requisite amount of affordable housing.

As PP noted that Fannie Mae development is swanky and incredibly large. That's in NW and wasn't stopped by any of the tactics you're citing.