Schools Pushing MEDITATION in public schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised no one has mentioned yoga in this thread. According to some is cultural appropriation of a religious practice.

I don't agree with OP, but sometimes, the idea that secularization of certain practices and even atheism is a form of religion, and MAYBE should be recognized as such sometimes niggles in my head. In that case then, non-profit status granted to mosques, temples and churches would need to extend to atheist groups, but then schools would have to ban atheistic practices in schools. However, I do not see this as practical.

Non profit status is granted to Atheist groups, and it is a protected class under protection of religion.

Does it get the same benefits as churches/mosques/temples? I thought there were additional exemptions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised no one has mentioned yoga in this thread. According to some is cultural appropriation of a religious practice.

I don't agree with OP, but sometimes, the idea that secularization of certain practices and even atheism is a form of religion, and MAYBE should be recognized as such sometimes niggles in my head. In that case then, non-profit status granted to mosques, temples and churches would need to extend to atheist groups, but then schools would have to ban atheistic practices in schools. However, I do not see this as practical.

Non profit status is granted to Atheist groups, and it is a protected class under protection of religion.

Does it get the same benefits as churches/mosques/temples? I thought there were additional exemptions.

Yes and no. It depends. There are pros and cons to being either. A short article below.

https://www.thebalancesmb.com/are-there-advantages-to-being-a-faith-based-nonprofit-2501882

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have perfect reasoning ability. You all are clueless.

I am not writing in links so the links can prove my point, but to make the point that all the links you send are meaningless, because all the sources you bring up also have written articles making my point.

You can be selective about the words you use, and pretend that you are using something secularly. It is still the wrong place for it. You think you’re being cool by adapting these behaviors, and don’t take a minute to think for a second of what they mean. You are the same people who are tearing down statues because their origins are linked to slavery, but refuse to look at the roots of meditation because it makes you think you are hip with your expense yoga pants.

You are just empty heads.

Are you an atheist? What are your positions on kids reciting the Pledge of Allegiance with the words “under God “? Do you believe in this national prayer day in the schools? Most of the people I’ve known who oppose meditation schools are conservative Christians who just don’t want “that religion “in their schools. Even though it’s not a religion.

It doesn’t matter who I am for my point to be valid.

Regardless of whether I am an atheist or conservative Christian, Muslim, Jewish, or satanist, it doesn’t make my point less valid.

Anything that includes the word God has an explicit choice for opt out, and it is not served in disguise.

If they want to calm kids down they can let them breathe fresh air with a longer recess, not practice meditation in a stuffy classroom.

You haven’t yet articulated a “point” so we can’t argue as to whether or not it is valid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have perfect reasoning ability. You all are clueless.

I am not writing in links so the links can prove my point, but to make the point that all the links you send are meaningless, because all the sources you bring up also have written articles making my point.

You can be selective about the words you use, and pretend that you are using something secularly. It is still the wrong place for it. You think you’re being cool by adapting these behaviors, and don’t take a minute to think for a second of what they mean. You are the same people who are tearing down statues because their origins are linked to slavery, but refuse to look at the roots of meditation because it makes you think you are hip with your expense yoga pants.

You are just empty heads.

Are you an atheist? What are your positions on kids reciting the Pledge of Allegiance with the words “under God “? Do you believe in this national prayer day in the schools? Most of the people I’ve known who oppose meditation schools are conservative Christians who just don’t want “that religion “in their schools. Even though it’s not a religion.

It doesn’t matter who I am for my point to be valid.

Regardless of whether I am an atheist or conservative Christian, Muslim, Jewish, or satanist, it doesn’t make my point less valid.

Anything that includes the word God has an explicit choice for opt out, and it is not served in disguise.

If they want to calm kids down they can let them breathe fresh air with a longer recess, not practice meditation in a stuffy classroom.

You haven’t yet articulated a “point” so we can’t argue as to whether or not it is valid.

The US Supreme Court has articulated the point already. Religion has no place in our public school.

My point is that this is not being followed, because meditation, a religious practice, is being taught.

Now if you fail to see the point or wish to fail to see the point, that is your prerogative.

[Anonymous]

Mindfulness Meditation is already taught in many public schools. We know it reduces disciplinary problems, improves performance, and creates a calmer, more peaceful learning environment. Anyone against this is just ignorant. There is absolutely no other explanation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have perfect reasoning ability. You all are clueless.

I am not writing in links so the links can prove my point, but to make the point that all the links you send are meaningless, because all the sources you bring up also have written articles making my point.

You can be selective about the words you use, and pretend that you are using something secularly. It is still the wrong place for it. You think you’re being cool by adapting these behaviors, and don’t take a minute to think for a second of what they mean. You are the same people who are tearing down statues because their origins are linked to slavery, but refuse to look at the roots of meditation because it makes you think you are hip with your expense yoga pants.

You are just empty heads.

Are you an atheist? What are your positions on kids reciting the Pledge of Allegiance with the words “under God “? Do you believe in this national prayer day in the schools? Most of the people I’ve known who oppose meditation schools are conservative Christians who just don’t want “that religion “in their schools. Even though it’s not a religion.

It doesn’t matter who I am for my point to be valid.

Regardless of whether I am an atheist or conservative Christian, Muslim, Jewish, or satanist, it doesn’t make my point less valid.

Anything that includes the word God has an explicit choice for opt out, and it is not served in disguise.

If they want to calm kids down they can let them breathe fresh air with a longer recess, not practice meditation in a stuffy classroom.

You haven’t yet articulated a “point” so we can’t argue as to whether or not it is valid.

The US Supreme Court has articulated the point already. Religion has no place in our public school.

My point is that this is not being followed, because meditation, a religious practice, is being taught.

Now if you fail to see the point or wish to fail to see the point, that is your prerogative.

You have yet to prove this assertion.

[Anonymous]

This HAS to be a bored troll post. Nobody is this stupid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Amazing. I would love if my kid's school taught meditation. She does a little bit in her kid's yoga class and I think it's good. There are always breathing awareness exercises at the end of my barre class, and I find it very useful.

Meditation is not a religious belief or practice. People from many religions do a form of meditation as part of their practice (including Buddhists, Catholics, Hindus, Muslims, and even secular Humanists), but there is not a religion based on solely on the idea of meditation. If a school teaches breathing exercises and thought detachment without any spiritual component, I can't see any court I've ever encountered ruling that this is a violation of separation of church and state.

Though OP is making a compelling argument as to why, if a school is teaching meditation as part of its curriculum, it's would be a good idea to instead call it something like "Nervous System Calming and Breathing Awareness." Which is actually what it is. People freak out about anything that reminds them, personally, of religion, even if it's not religious.

If parents are fine with their kids meditating, even though it may be a religious practice different from their own, that’s fine with me. They ought to have the choice though.

However, I may prefer my kid to pray in order to relax. I would really prefer the kid to play a lot and then be exhausted and have no need for meditation or adderall.

The origin of meditation is very important. It is a component of a religion and is being secularized, but so can be done with prayer. We can pray to the universe instead of god. There have been countless studies on the benefits of prayer.

BTW, the "meditation or Adderall" your where you clearly outed yourself as a troll. Good try, though! Gold star for effort.

[Anonymous]

I am very involved within the yoga and meditation world and wanted to pass on this article to you. A judge ruled in a famous Encinitas case that yoga is not a religious practice in school.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/07/01/197712791/calif-judge-rules-yoga-in-public-schools-not-religious

I encourage you to really think about what’s bothering you so much about children using stress reduction breathing techniques in school. There’s no talking of spirituality or religion the way it’s being taught in schools. The goal is Teaching children self-regulation. Instead of sending them to timeout or detension, we’re seeing amazing results by kids learning to self regulate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am very involved within the yoga and meditation world and wanted to pass on this article to you. A judge ruled in a famous Encinitas case that yoga is not a religious practice in school.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/07/01/197712791/calif-judge-rules-yoga-in-public-schools-not-religious

I encourage you to really think about what’s bothering you so much about children using stress reduction breathing techniques in school. There’s no talking of spirituality or religion the way it’s being taught in schools. The goal is Teaching children self-regulation. Instead of sending them to timeout or detension, we’re seeing amazing results by kids learning to self regulate.

Of course you see amazing results. That’s why religion is so popular, because people that practice have a better quality of life than the ones that don’t.

Unfortunately you all correlate religion with Christian bigots, so if it’s not Christian bigoted it can’t be religious in your eyes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am very involved within the yoga and meditation world and wanted to pass on this article to you. A judge ruled in a famous Encinitas case that yoga is not a religious practice in school.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/07/01/197712791/calif-judge-rules-yoga-in-public-schools-not-religious

I encourage you to really think about what’s bothering you so much about children using stress reduction breathing techniques in school. There’s no talking of spirituality or religion the way it’s being taught in schools. The goal is Teaching children self-regulation. Instead of sending them to timeout or detension, we’re seeing amazing results by kids learning to self regulate.

Of course you see amazing results. That’s why religion is so popular, because people that practice have a better quality of life than the ones that don’t.

Unfortunately you all correlate religion with Christian bigots, so if it’s not Christian bigoted it can’t be religious in your eyes.

Excuse me, my father is Japanese Buddhist, and has never thought that meditation, as taught in Western schools, has anything to do with his spiritual practice.

On the contrary, I think your misguided opinion shows how little you know about Buddhism that you would boil it down to this. It's a form of bias that you have, OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am very involved within the yoga and meditation world and wanted to pass on this article to you. A judge ruled in a famous Encinitas case that yoga is not a religious practice in school.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/07/01/197712791/calif-judge-rules-yoga-in-public-schools-not-religious

I encourage you to really think about what’s bothering you so much about children using stress reduction breathing techniques in school. There’s no talking of spirituality or religion the way it’s being taught in schools. The goal is Teaching children self-regulation. Instead of sending them to timeout or detension, we’re seeing amazing results by kids learning to self regulate.

Of course you see amazing results. That’s why religion is so popular, because people that practice have a better quality of life than the ones that don’t.

Unfortunately you all correlate religion with Christian bigots, so if it’s not Christian bigoted it can’t be religious in your eyes.

Excuse me, my father is Japanese Buddhist, and has never thought that meditation, as taught in Western schools, has anything to do with his spiritual practice.

On the contrary, I think your misguided opinion shows how little you know about Buddhism that you would boil it down to this. It's a form of bias that you have, OP.

Who are you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Meditation is a religious practice. It is being taught in our public schools throughout Virginia under the disguise of benefits.

All religions have benefits. Regardless, the US Supreme Court has ruled that religion doesn’t belong in schools.

What? No it's not. It's a health benefit to keep kids calm and focused.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am very involved within the yoga and meditation world and wanted to pass on this article to you. A judge ruled in a famous Encinitas case that yoga is not a religious practice in school.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/07/01/197712791/calif-judge-rules-yoga-in-public-schools-not-religious

I encourage you to really think about what’s bothering you so much about children using stress reduction breathing techniques in school. There’s no talking of spirituality or religion the way it’s being taught in schools. The goal is Teaching children self-regulation. Instead of sending them to timeout or detension, we’re seeing amazing results by kids learning to self regulate.

Of course you see amazing results. That’s why religion is so popular, because people that practice have a better quality of life than the ones that don’t.

Unfortunately you all correlate religion with Christian bigots, so if it’s not Christian bigoted it can’t be religious in your eyes.

Excuse me, my father is Japanese Buddhist, and has never thought that meditation, as taught in Western schools, has anything to do with his spiritual practice.

On the contrary, I think your misguided opinion shows how little you know about Buddhism that you would boil it down to this. It's a form of bias that you have, OP.

Who are you?

A person living in the DC area with children meditating in public school. Why do you ask?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Meditation is a religious practice. It is being taught in our public schools throughout Virginia under the disguise of benefits.

All religions have benefits. Regardless, the US Supreme Court has ruled that religion doesn’t belong in schools.

Question for OP - are you also outraged about of the Pledge of Allegiance and "one nation, under god"?