Metro United has been quiet

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:LOL, yes they beat Arlington 2nd team. Huge accomplishment, rofl.

Arlington first team is kind of a joke...so

We keep hearing on the boys side how the first teams are not as good as the second teams at Arlington across a number of ages below u15. Maybe we should not focus on results so much.

That sounded unlikely to me so I just checked quickly. The Arlington U14 first team has a 9-0-1 record in ECNL and sits alone in first place. The second team has a 4-2-1 record and is mid-tableish in CCL (to be fair it's probably a bit better than mid table on a points per game basis, but has played fewer games than most of the other teams). Still it looks like it would be pretty hard to argue that the second team is better, or even close to, the first team based on their records.

Where did you hear this?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To whom are they selling to?

Again..selling what? There is absolutely nothing to sell.

Other clubs players pools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MU is getting purchased out within the next 3 months. You saw it here first.

What are the new owners going to do with the club?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:MU is getting purchased out within the next 3 months. You saw it here first.

What are the new owners going to do with the club?

Absorb the player pool

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LOL, yes they beat Arlington 2nd team. Huge accomplishment, rofl.

Arlington first team is kind of a joke...so

We keep hearing on the boys side how the first teams are not as good as the second teams at Arlington across a number of ages below u15. Maybe we should not focus on results so much.

That sounded unlikely to me so I just checked quickly. The Arlington U14 first team has a 9-0-1 record in ECNL and sits alone in first place. The second team has a 4-2-1 record and is mid-tableish in CCL (to be fair it's probably a bit better than mid table on a points per game basis, but has played fewer games than most of the other teams). Still it looks like it would be pretty hard to argue that the second team is better, or even close to, the first team based on their records.

Where did you hear this?

Arlington parents, among others. What about the other age groups?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Metro parents have you seen any changes in the club? How is the pipeline working out with greatfalls and potomac? How do you feel the better kids from your pipeline clubsare moving to clubs like Mclean and Arlington?

Previous players have moved to other clubs. The new players are primarily Stoddert, Potomac, or to a lesser extent GFR. I wouldn't say players from those "feeders" are moving to other clubs, with the exception of perhaps GFR. Metro has embraced those clubs with a death grip. I'd imagine if Metro survives as is, their teams will primarily be a fusion of the top Stoddert/Potomac teams per age group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LOL, yes they beat Arlington 2nd team. Huge accomplishment, rofl.

Arlington first team is kind of a joke...so

We keep hearing on the boys side how the first teams are not as good as the second teams at Arlington across a number of ages below u15. Maybe we should not focus on results so much.

That sounded unlikely to me so I just checked quickly. The Arlington U14 first team has a 9-0-1 record in ECNL and sits alone in first place. The second team has a 4-2-1 record and is mid-tableish in CCL (to be fair it's probably a bit better than mid table on a points per game basis, but has played fewer games than most of the other teams). Still it looks like it would be pretty hard to argue that the second team is better, or even close to, the first team based on their records.

Where did you hear this?

Arlington parents, among others. What about the other age groups?

U14 1st team ECNL 9-0-1 2nd team CCL1 4-2-1
U13 1st team ECNL 4-5-1 2nd team CCL1 2-4-1
U12 1st team CCL1 6-0-1 2nd team CCL2 8-0-0
U11 & below - no data.

In general it is extremely unlikely that a second team is better than a first team. That means that at least one, and probably both of the following have to be true:

1. They have picked the wrong kids for the top team. Not just mixing up the kids who are of roughly equal talent at the top of the second team/bottom of the first team because that wouldn't change much. But putting the best ones - the ones that should be easiest to pick out - on the second team and/or the ones at the bottom of the second team on the first team.

2. The second team coaching is significantly better than the first team coaching.

The alternative explanation - silly parent - is far more likely.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously why are you so hateful. These are other people's kids you are talking about.

I think it's more of a joke against the organization rather than the people who pay to be in it.

Agree. The Metro 08s lost to FCV 3-0 yesterday in a GA makeup game. 3-0 isn't actually that bad.

Not that FCV coaching is that great anymore, but that is bad. Metro actually has some decent soccer players in the 2008 group. Coaching at Metro is dreadful.

[Anonymous]

I hear MU is preparing for the inevitable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously why are you so hateful. These are other people's kids you are talking about.

I think it's more of a joke against the organization rather than the people who pay to be in it.

Agree. The Metro 08s lost to FCV 3-0 yesterday in a GA makeup game. 3-0 isn't actually that bad.

Not that FCV coaching is that great anymore, but that is bad. Metro actually has some decent soccer players in the 2008 group. Coaching at Metro is dreadful.

The coaching is general the same. It usually comes down to how the teams matchup(speed), the lower 1/2 of the team and the bench. A big or established clubs first team usually have better players on the bottom part of the roster(players 7-11 and the bench). This results in goals in the later part of games or when the top player gets matched up on player 7-11.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LOL, yes they beat Arlington 2nd team. Huge accomplishment, rofl.

Arlington first team is kind of a joke...so

We keep hearing on the boys side how the first teams are not as good as the second teams at Arlington across a number of ages below u15. Maybe we should not focus on results so much.

That sounded unlikely to me so I just checked quickly. The Arlington U14 first team has a 9-0-1 record in ECNL and sits alone in first place. The second team has a 4-2-1 record and is mid-tableish in CCL (to be fair it's probably a bit better than mid table on a points per game basis, but has played fewer games than most of the other teams). Still it looks like it would be pretty hard to argue that the second team is better, or even close to, the first team based on their records.

Where did you hear this?

Arlington parents, among others. What about the other age groups?

U14 1st team ECNL 9-0-1 2nd team CCL1 4-2-1
U13 1st team ECNL 4-5-1 2nd team CCL1 2-4-1
U12 1st team CCL1 6-0-1 2nd team CCL2 8-0-0
U11 & below - no data.

In general it is extremely unlikely that a second team is better than a first team. That means that at least one, and probably both of the following have to be true:

1. They have picked the wrong kids for the top team. Not just mixing up the kids who are of roughly equal talent at the top of the second team/bottom of the first team because that wouldn't change much. But putting the best ones - the ones that should be easiest to pick out - on the second team and/or the ones at the bottom of the second team on the first team.

2. The second team coaching is significantly better than the first team coaching.

The alternative explanation - silly parent - is far more likely.

Shouldn’t you be comparing girls team for metro, not boys?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hear MU is preparing for the inevitable.

Please elaborate. DD is in one of the partnering clubs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously why are you so hateful. These are other people's kids you are talking about.

I think it's more of a joke against the organization rather than the people who pay to be in it.

Agree. The Metro 08s lost to FCV 3-0 yesterday in a GA makeup game. 3-0 isn't actually that bad.

Not that FCV coaching is that great anymore, but that is bad. Metro actually has some decent soccer players in the 2008 group. Coaching at Metro is dreadful.

The coaching is general the same. It usually comes down to how the teams matchup(speed), the lower 1/2 of the team and the bench. A big or established clubs first team usually have better players on the bottom part of the roster(players 7-11 and the bench). This results in goals in the later part of games or when the top player gets matched up on player 7-11.

From what I've seen, I disagree. The coaching at Metro is on the poor side. They don't develop players. They actually play to many of the stereotypes of bad clubs posted by some on this forum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously why are you so hateful. These are other people's kids you are talking about.

I think it's more of a joke against the organization rather than the people who pay to be in it.

Agree. The Metro 08s lost to FCV 3-0 yesterday in a GA makeup game. 3-0 isn't actually that bad.

Not that FCV coaching is that great anymore, but that is bad. Metro actually has some decent soccer players in the 2008 group. Coaching at Metro is dreadful.

The coaching is general the same. It usually comes down to how the teams matchup(speed), the lower 1/2 of the team and the bench. A big or established clubs first team usually have better players on the bottom part of the roster(players 7-11 and the bench). This results in goals in the later part of games or when the top player gets matched up on player 7-11.

Hmmm. Making a general point (i.e. this comment is not specific to FCV or Metro), in my experience coaching can be quite markedly different. And the higher the level of soccer, the more impostant coaching is.

[Anonymous]

So it looks like Metro just added another "partner club" in VA Revolution. Not sure what to make of that.