State MCEA Responds to Governor - In a nutshell says, "Nope! Not going back!"

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Serious question: do you (especially teachers) think it is immoral for parents to send kids to hybrid school now? Will you resent the kids for it?

We chose hybrid back in December expecting our district to be much more conservative. They threw out metrics and set a return date. I find the research on school transmission reassuring from a risk perspective, but i am a dues paying member and officer in my union and wonder if sending my kid in is comparable to crossing a picket line or shopping somewhere with unfair labor practices. Thoughts?


This is a serious question? Really? A teacher would have a very low level of professionalism to hold a child accountable for the decision of the parents.
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Anonymous wrote:Enough with these unions already. ENOUGH.

That letter is exactly why people hate unions. It’s filled with unprofessional hysteria. With the funds that paid by union dues, a lawyer should have written their response. It would then be focused on facts and totally unemotional.

+1
This letter is terrible.


+1 the letter makes it sound like the teachers union is run by a unclassy Karen.
There’s a reason why you have never had a seat at the table, Karen. We know you will stomp your feet and huff regardless of what solution we propose that doesn’t include new buildings, higher salaries, working from home indefinitely and first access to vaccines before Grandma.
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Anonymous wrote:Serious question: do you (especially teachers) think it is immoral for parents to send kids to hybrid school now? Will you resent the kids for it?

We chose hybrid back in December expecting our district to be much more conservative. They threw out metrics and set a return date. I find the research on school transmission reassuring from a risk perspective, but i am a dues paying member and officer in my union and wonder if sending my kid in is comparable to crossing a picket line or shopping somewhere with unfair labor practices. Thoughts?


This is a serious question? Really? A teacher would have a very low level of professionalism to hold a child accountable for the decision of the parents.


Yes, so I asked question on a friend's FB page. She is a teacher and has quite a few teacher friends, so it seemed like a place to get several opinions.

The one opinion that was posted, liked and agreed by a handful of teachers (only about 7 responded) was that the teachers would not resent or treat the child any differently. The teachers all said that they understood and respected that many people have difficult situations and have to make the best decision for their family and their individual situation and that people taking advantage of the school opening were not at fault for using the opportunity they were given. They resented the school district for making this an option without the appropriate precautions being taken and they blamed the school board for doing only a half-a$$ed job of what needed to be done to reopen schools responsibly.
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Anonymous wrote:Serious question: do you (especially teachers) think it is immoral for parents to send kids to hybrid school now? Will you resent the kids for it?

We chose hybrid back in December expecting our district to be much more conservative. They threw out metrics and set a return date. I find the research on school transmission reassuring from a risk perspective, but i am a dues paying member and officer in my union and wonder if sending my kid in is comparable to crossing a picket line or shopping somewhere with unfair labor practices. Thoughts?


This is a serious question? Really? A teacher would have a very low level of professionalism to hold a child accountable for the decision of the parents.


Teachers definitely judge your decision - I have a real life example.

AA Co recently asked parents to fill out a "survey" to indicate if you want a hybrid or virtual option for your child. My friend mentioned to her child's teacher she couldn't decide what to do, and the teacher said "You need to make the right choice for your family BUT you really need to consider all of the facts"

This teacher implored her to join the "Parental Alliance for Child Safety" Facebook group - which is an anti-reopening group for AA Co that wants to keep schools closed FOREVER.

Trust me, EVERY teacher in AA Co is judging you if you want to send your kids back because they are all members of this "PASS" group and want to stay home forever. How dare you demand they return in person! And now, folks in this group are also calling people racist if they want to return. Unbelievable!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Serious question: do you (especially teachers) think it is immoral for parents to send kids to hybrid school now? Will you resent the kids for it?

We chose hybrid back in December expecting our district to be much more conservative. They threw out metrics and set a return date. I find the research on school transmission reassuring from a risk perspective, but i am a dues paying member and officer in my union and wonder if sending my kid in is comparable to crossing a picket line or shopping somewhere with unfair labor practices. Thoughts?


This is a serious question? Really? A teacher would have a very low level of professionalism to hold a child accountable for the decision of the parents.


Teachers definitely judge your decision - I have a real life example.

AA Co recently asked parents to fill out a "survey" to indicate if you want a hybrid or virtual option for your child. My friend mentioned to her child's teacher she couldn't decide what to do, and the teacher said "You need to make the right choice for your family BUT you really need to consider all of the facts"

This teacher implored her to join the "Parental Alliance for Child Safety" Facebook group - which is an anti-reopening group for AA Co that wants to keep schools closed FOREVER.

Trust me, EVERY teacher in AA Co is judging you if you want to send your kids back because they are all members of this "PASS" group and want to stay home forever. How dare you demand they return in person! And now, folks in this group are also calling people racist if they want to return. Unbelievable!


At a recent private "Townhall"" in Howard County with a population that definitely skews toward reopening, at least one parent complained that some high school teachers spent class time telling students that if they choose to return, school is going to be very restrictive and unpleasant The student felt that the teachers were trying to discourage families from choosing in person. That seems unprofessional to me, regardless of where you land on reopening.
Anonymous
My child is in one of the few private local schools that has had zero covid infections (that we know of). To make this work, the school separates the kids with plastic, tests every two weeks, does not allow kids to return to school if parents or family travel out of state, have out of state visitors or have more than 10 person visits. They travel from class to class with their chair, eat at a table by themselves at lunch, have their temp taken when they leave their car in the morning, wear a mask all day and are sent home if anything indicates even the remote possibility of covid. Oh and there are less than 10 kids per classroom. Plus, the school pushed to have the teachers vaccinated as a group last week. Every teacher and staff had their first vaccine already - there was not an option to opt out.
I do not understand how any public school can remotely come close to this level of care. The question is how to balance how much care is needed vs. acceptable level of risk.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My child is in one of the few private local schools that has had zero covid infections (that we know of). To make this work, the school separates the kids with plastic, tests every two weeks, does not allow kids to return to school if parents or family travel out of state, have out of state visitors or have more than 10 person visits. They travel from class to class with their chair, eat at a table by themselves at lunch, have their temp taken when they leave their car in the morning, wear a mask all day and are sent home if anything indicates even the remote possibility of covid. Oh and there are less than 10 kids per classroom. Plus, the school pushed to have the teachers vaccinated as a group last week. Every teacher and staff had their first vaccine already - there was not an option to opt out.
I do not understand how any public school can remotely come close to this level of care. The question is how to balance how much care is needed vs. acceptable level of risk.


This is an invalid argument. Nobody expects the MD public schools to function like the privates that are open. The question should be... what are public schools doing in the OTHER 47 states that are open? Surely they don't take these measures, but yet they have been open since August.

So.... what is different about Maryland? Last time I checked AA Co had COVID rates that were BETTER than 47 other states... yet it's still not "safe" to return to school. What will it take? COVID rates equal to zero? All teachers, staff, and children vaccinated? Maybe we'll achieve that in 2024!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Serious question: do you (especially teachers) think it is immoral for parents to send kids to hybrid school now? Will you resent the kids for it?

We chose hybrid back in December expecting our district to be much more conservative. They threw out metrics and set a return date. I find the research on school transmission reassuring from a risk perspective, but i am a dues paying member and officer in my union and wonder if sending my kid in is comparable to crossing a picket line or shopping somewhere with unfair labor practices. Thoughts?


This is a serious question? Really? A teacher would have a very low level of professionalism to hold a child accountable for the decision of the parents.


I am a parent and I judge the teachers that are constantly complaining about returning.

In AA Co, the BOE publishes the written testimony submitted the BOE. You better believe I read each and every single letter to see if any of them were written by teachers at our local elementary school. We also monitor all of the social media posts written by teachers "complaining" about returning and shame those teachers on group texts with our friends.

The worst offenders are those teachers constantly complaining about going back, and then subsequently posting photos of unmasked dinners inside at restaurants, vacations, etc. Or at parties with large groups of unmasked people. The hypocrisy knows no bounds. Of course we screen shot those posts and also promptly shame them on group texts as well.

TEACHERS - Smile! We are watching you very closely!

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Serious question: do you (especially teachers) think it is immoral for parents to send kids to hybrid school now? Will you resent the kids for it?

We chose hybrid back in December expecting our district to be much more conservative. They threw out metrics and set a return date. I find the research on school transmission reassuring from a risk perspective, but i am a dues paying member and officer in my union and wonder if sending my kid in is comparable to crossing a picket line or shopping somewhere with unfair labor practices. Thoughts?


This is a serious question? Really? A teacher would have a very low level of professionalism to hold a child accountable for the decision of the parents.


I am a parent and I judge the teachers that are constantly complaining about returning.

In AA Co, the BOE publishes the written testimony submitted the BOE. You better believe I read each and every single letter to see if any of them were written by teachers at our local elementary school. We also monitor all of the social media posts written by teachers "complaining" about returning and shame those teachers on group texts with our friends.

The worst offenders are those teachers constantly complaining about going back, and then subsequently posting photos of unmasked dinners inside at restaurants, vacations, etc. Or at parties with large groups of unmasked people. The hypocrisy knows no bounds. Of course we screen shot those posts and also promptly shame them on group texts as well.

TEACHERS - Smile! We are watching you very closely!




So why don’t you go apply to teach at the local elementary school then?
I’d love to see any of these parents running their mouths come and actually teach for a day or two!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Serious question: do you (especially teachers) think it is immoral for parents to send kids to hybrid school now? Will you resent the kids for it?

We chose hybrid back in December expecting our district to be much more conservative. They threw out metrics and set a return date. I find the research on school transmission reassuring from a risk perspective, but i am a dues paying member and officer in my union and wonder if sending my kid in is comparable to crossing a picket line or shopping somewhere with unfair labor practices. Thoughts?


This is a serious question? Really? A teacher would have a very low level of professionalism to hold a child accountable for the decision of the parents.


I am a parent and I judge the teachers that are constantly complaining about returning.

In AA Co, the BOE publishes the written testimony submitted the BOE. You better believe I read each and every single letter to see if any of them were written by teachers at our local elementary school. We also monitor all of the social media posts written by teachers "complaining" about returning and shame those teachers on group texts with our friends.

The worst offenders are those teachers constantly complaining about going back, and then subsequently posting photos of unmasked dinners inside at restaurants, vacations, etc. Or at parties with large groups of unmasked people. The hypocrisy knows no bounds. Of course we screen shot those posts and also promptly shame them on group texts as well.

TEACHERS - Smile! We are watching you very closely!




So why don’t you go apply to teach at the local elementary school then?
I’d love to see any of these parents running their mouths come and actually teach for a day or two!


It's actually really funny that you mention this. I am the poster of the comment above, and I just applied to AACPS to be a mid-day monitor. I will HAPPILY return to the classroom and help the children the minute they return to school. No fear here! Heck, if it takes away a job from a teacher that refuses to come back, even better. Hahahahaha!
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Serious question: do you (especially teachers) think it is immoral for parents to send kids to hybrid school now? Will you resent the kids for it?

We chose hybrid back in December expecting our district to be much more conservative. They threw out metrics and set a return date. I find the research on school transmission reassuring from a risk perspective, but i am a dues paying member and officer in my union and wonder if sending my kid in is comparable to crossing a picket line or shopping somewhere with unfair labor practices. Thoughts?


This is a serious question? Really? A teacher would have a very low level of professionalism to hold a child accountable for the decision of the parents.


I am a parent and I judge the teachers that are constantly complaining about returning.

In AA Co, the BOE publishes the written testimony submitted the BOE. You better believe I read each and every single letter to see if any of them were written by teachers at our local elementary school. We also monitor all of the social media posts written by teachers "complaining" about returning and shame those teachers on group texts with our friends.

The worst offenders are those teachers constantly complaining about going back, and then subsequently posting photos of unmasked dinners inside at restaurants, vacations, etc. Or at parties with large groups of unmasked people. The hypocrisy knows no bounds. Of course we screen shot those posts and also promptly shame them on group texts as well.

TEACHERS - Smile! We are watching you very closely!

I am a teacher who hasn’t done any of the things you mentioned in your post. I have been inside a store exactly six times since last March. We order online and have most things delivered. I haven’t been to a friend’s house, nor have I had anyone to my house since last March. My husband has medical conditions and health issues and my family has been so damn careful this past year.

As a teacher of elementary students, I hear over and over again about the trips out of state and out of the country that my students’ families have taken this school year. I hear about the birthday parties, travel sports, staying in hotels, going into store after store, etc. The teachers I know personally are being careful. It’s the behaviors and choices of the parents and families in the school community that have me concerned.

On social media, I see people in my community gathering together all the time (A large group of women gathered for someone’s birthday, sitting together drinking wine, pictures of families at some travel sport event in another state, etc). Many of these are the same parents shouting about returning to the physical school building.

It goes both ways.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Serious question: do you (especially teachers) think it is immoral for parents to send kids to hybrid school now? Will you resent the kids for it?

We chose hybrid back in December expecting our district to be much more conservative. They threw out metrics and set a return date. I find the research on school transmission reassuring from a risk perspective, but i am a dues paying member and officer in my union and wonder if sending my kid in is comparable to crossing a picket line or shopping somewhere with unfair labor practices. Thoughts?


This is a serious question? Really? A teacher would have a very low level of professionalism to hold a child accountable for the decision of the parents.


I am a parent and I judge the teachers that are constantly complaining about returning.

In AA Co, the BOE publishes the written testimony submitted the BOE. You better believe I read each and every single letter to see if any of them were written by teachers at our local elementary school. We also monitor all of the social media posts written by teachers "complaining" about returning and shame those teachers on group texts with our friends.

The worst offenders are those teachers constantly complaining about going back, and then subsequently posting photos of unmasked dinners inside at restaurants, vacations, etc. Or at parties with large groups of unmasked people. The hypocrisy knows no bounds. Of course we screen shot those posts and also promptly shame them on group texts as well.

TEACHERS - Smile! We are watching you very closely!




So why don’t you go apply to teach at the local elementary school then?
I’d love to see any of these parents running their mouths come and actually teach for a day or two!


This argument makes no sense, in teaching or really any other profession.

So any amount of criticism now equals "well then YOU do it!" ???
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Serious question: do you (especially teachers) think it is immoral for parents to send kids to hybrid school now? Will you resent the kids for it?

We chose hybrid back in December expecting our district to be much more conservative. They threw out metrics and set a return date. I find the research on school transmission reassuring from a risk perspective, but i am a dues paying member and officer in my union and wonder if sending my kid in is comparable to crossing a picket line or shopping somewhere with unfair labor practices. Thoughts?


This is a serious question? Really? A teacher would have a very low level of professionalism to hold a child accountable for the decision of the parents.


I am a parent and I judge the teachers that are constantly complaining about returning.

In AA Co, the BOE publishes the written testimony submitted the BOE. You better believe I read each and every single letter to see if any of them were written by teachers at our local elementary school. We also monitor all of the social media posts written by teachers "complaining" about returning and shame those teachers on group texts with our friends.

The worst offenders are those teachers constantly complaining about going back, and then subsequently posting photos of unmasked dinners inside at restaurants, vacations, etc. Or at parties with large groups of unmasked people. The hypocrisy knows no bounds. Of course we screen shot those posts and also promptly shame them on group texts as well.

TEACHERS - Smile! We are watching you very closely!




So why don’t you go apply to teach at the local elementary school then?
I’d love to see any of these parents running their mouths come and actually teach for a day or two!


Because I am a healthcare professional who has been providing F2F care to my patients without intermission, working both outpatient in our clinic and inpatient in a regional COVID19 hospital center as a provider for one of our high-risk populations.

You are welcome.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:My child is in one of the few private local schools that has had zero covid infections (that we know of). To make this work, the school separates the kids with plastic, tests every two weeks, does not allow kids to return to school if parents or family travel out of state, have out of state visitors or have more than 10 person visits. They travel from class to class with their chair, eat at a table by themselves at lunch, have their temp taken when they leave their car in the morning, wear a mask all day and are sent home if anything indicates even the remote possibility of covid. Oh and there are less than 10 kids per classroom. Plus, the school pushed to have the teachers vaccinated as a group last week. Every teacher and staff had their first vaccine already - there was not an option to opt out.
I do not understand how any public school can remotely come close to this level of care. The question is how to balance how much care is needed vs. acceptable level of risk.


This is an invalid argument. Nobody expects the MD public schools to function like the privates that are open. The question should be... what are public schools doing in the OTHER 47 states that are open? Surely they don't take these measures, but yet they have been open since August.

So.... what is different about Maryland? Last time I checked AA Co had COVID rates that were BETTER than 47 other states... yet it's still not "safe" to return to school. What will it take? COVID rates equal to zero? All teachers, staff, and children vaccinated? Maybe we'll achieve that in 2024!


It actually is not an invalid argument. It shows what is done to ensure zero infections in a school and if this is the goal for the teacher’s union and some parents, it is impossible in a public school setting. However, if we truly think kids should be in school, a school district or parent needs to decide on their risk tolerance based on what the public school system can and should be doing. I am 100% for schools being open and feel strongly that they should have been open in September, however, there has to be a general acceptance that there will be infections of both children and teachers because the public school system cannot provide the level of care to ensure zero - much like we assume that there is a chance our kid may get pink eye or the flu.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Serious question: do you (especially teachers) think it is immoral for parents to send kids to hybrid school now? Will you resent the kids for it?

We chose hybrid back in December expecting our district to be much more conservative. They threw out metrics and set a return date. I find the research on school transmission reassuring from a risk perspective, but i am a dues paying member and officer in my union and wonder if sending my kid in is comparable to crossing a picket line or shopping somewhere with unfair labor practices. Thoughts?


This is a serious question? Really? A teacher would have a very low level of professionalism to hold a child accountable for the decision of the parents.


I am a parent and I judge the teachers that are constantly complaining about returning.

In AA Co, the BOE publishes the written testimony submitted the BOE. You better believe I read each and every single letter to see if any of them were written by teachers at our local elementary school. We also monitor all of the social media posts written by teachers "complaining" about returning and shame those teachers on group texts with our friends.

The worst offenders are those teachers constantly complaining about going back, and then subsequently posting photos of unmasked dinners inside at restaurants, vacations, etc. Or at parties with large groups of unmasked people. The hypocrisy knows no bounds. Of course we screen shot those posts and also promptly shame them on group texts as well.

TEACHERS - Smile! We are watching you very closely!




So why don’t you go apply to teach at the local elementary school then?
I’d love to see any of these parents running their mouths come and actually teach for a day or two!


Because I am a healthcare professional who has been providing F2F care to my patients without intermission, working both outpatient in our clinic and inpatient in a regional COVID19 hospital center as a provider for one of our high-risk populations.

You are welcome.


Thank you for showing up to do your job... in person! We appreciate you! #healthcareworkersareheroes #teachersjuststayathome
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