4th grade dropouts

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No plan to homeschool or another school is neglect. Why on earth would you do that?

Surely it's not neglect to send them into the backyard to play instead of sitting around all day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not really sure what it means to be honest. I'm not signing up for a homeschooling program. My husband and I both work although our hours are flexible. This afternoon we just all sort of hit the wall. My kids had epic meltdowns after school - my daughter crying endlessly about her headache - and then I got another email from FCPS pushing back distance learning and we decided we can't do it anymore.

Are you familiar with Virginia’s compulsory education laws?

Ha I cannot believe the drama that would ensue if they enforced these laws this year.

That may be true, but people should be aware of applicable laws before they start referring to their children as dropouts and offering them no alternative to public school.

[Anonymous]

Us too, OP. It was teaching my kids to hate school.

[Anonymous]

I would love to know how many kids have withdrawn from public schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not really sure what it means to be honest. I'm not signing up for a homeschooling program. My husband and I both work although our hours are flexible. This afternoon we just all sort of hit the wall. My kids had epic meltdowns after school - my daughter crying endlessly about her headache - and then I got another email from FCPS pushing back distance learning and we decided we can't do it anymore.

Are you familiar with Virginia’s compulsory education laws?

How can it be compulsory if the state fails to provide an education? Sounds like a great defense to me. Let the county try to defend its alleged educational services this year.

They are providing an education. You are choosing not to partake.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not really sure what it means to be honest. I'm not signing up for a homeschooling program. My husband and I both work although our hours are flexible. This afternoon we just all sort of hit the wall. My kids had epic meltdowns after school - my daughter crying endlessly about her headache - and then I got another email from FCPS pushing back distance learning and we decided we can't do it anymore.

Are you familiar with Virginia’s compulsory education laws?

How can it be compulsory if the state fails to provide an education? Sounds like a great defense to me. Let the county try to defend its alleged educational services this year.

Well, the state has a waiver. That doesn't mean parents who homeschool do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:16:53 here again: By setting up a schedule, I think it is good to at least start the day with some structure: I.e. at 8:30 they work on X for 30 min. and then at 9:00 they work on Y. And at 10:00 they read for 30 min. or whatever.

BTW, if you are looking for math resources, the Compass downloads are very easy to understand and you wouldn't need to be there for it. They are short and go with the Saxon math books.

I know you are burned out from the DL situation, but it's only January. You are going to have to fill a lot of time between now and August. You will need to come up with something.

The parents work full time!!!

yes, I realize that. But are they simply going to ignore them all day everyday? Until August? They (the parents) will have to provide some supervision. They don't need to "teach" them all morning. Just get them started on doing X pages in X workbook, then signing on to the download for Compass or something else, etc. The parents are going to have to do something with the kids to keep them on schedule at least for part of the day.

[Anonymous]

Is it always the same poster who complains about regression? Because that's not normal, and shouldn't happen if your child attends their virtual learning and you do your parenting job.

Do you check the homework? You must, every day.
Also check for organization, and that your child knows what to hand in when.
Multiplication is supposed to be practiced regularly at home until it's solid. Ask for one table a day.

I think your mistake is thinking that you can be totally hands-off as your child grows older. This isn't preschool. Even if your child were in the building, you'd need to help your child memorize their multiplication tables. I don't know one parent who hasn't helped their child to practice this!

Essentially, this is a failure of understanding your changing role as a parent of a grade-school child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would love to know how many kids have withdrawn from public schools.

It was almost 10,000 from Fairfax, last fall. They haven't provided any updates since then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is it always the same poster who complains about regression? Because that's not normal, and shouldn't happen if your child attends their virtual learning and you do your parenting job.

Do you check the homework? You must, every day.
Also check for organization, and that your child knows what to hand in when.
Multiplication is supposed to be practiced regularly at home until it's solid. Ask for one table a day.

I think your mistake is thinking that you can be totally hands-off as your child grows older. This isn't preschool. Even if your child were in the building, you'd need to help your child memorize their multiplication tables. I don't know one parent who hasn't helped their child to practice this!

Essentially, this is a failure of understanding your changing role as a parent of a grade-school child.

Go back to sleep, granny. We'll wake you when your life experience is relevant.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:But virtual learning is just as good as real school ! Teachers are working SOOOOO hard. My kid is attending class and doing all the work and he has still forgotten a TON he knew last year. Guess why? Because this is not effective.

My kid has also been doing the work and logging in to class and his handwriting has become illegible, he can no longer spell basic words and he has forgotten almost all his division/multiplication facts (5th grade AAP!). And I think his reading hasn't improved in over a year.

Are parents supposed to be teaching a parallel homeschool curriculum in addition to the FCPS Google Slides Curriculum?

If your fifth grade AAP student has forgotten division and multiplication facts, there is definitely a bigger issue. He is well beyond the age where multiplication facts can be "forgotten."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is it always the same poster who complains about regression? Because that's not normal, and shouldn't happen if your child attends their virtual learning and you do your parenting job.

Do you check the homework? You must, every day.
Also check for organization, and that your child knows what to hand in when.
Multiplication is supposed to be practiced regularly at home until it's solid. Ask for one table a day.

I think your mistake is thinking that you can be totally hands-off as your child grows older. This isn't preschool. Even if your child were in the building, you'd need to help your child memorize their multiplication tables. I don't know one parent who hasn't helped their child to practice this!

Essentially, this is a failure of understanding your changing role as a parent of a grade-school child.

No, it's not normal!!! Distance learning is a failure. It is harmful!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not really sure what it means to be honest. I'm not signing up for a homeschooling program. My husband and I both work although our hours are flexible. This afternoon we just all sort of hit the wall. My kids had epic meltdowns after school - my daughter crying endlessly about her headache - and then I got another email from FCPS pushing back distance learning and we decided we can't do it anymore.

Are you familiar with Virginia’s compulsory education laws?

Ha I cannot believe the drama that would ensue if they enforced these laws this year.

Why? If you choose to homeschool then you are committing to the rules.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No plan to homeschool or another school is neglect. Why on earth would you do that?

Surely it's not neglect to send them into the backyard to play instead of sitting around all day.

That's not a real strategy for January through August.

Even if the parents work full time, they are going to have to find SOME time to manage their children. I assume they have been doing some of this anyway. They don't have to do it in the mornings... they can do it anytime. But, it's not really ideal to let your kids forget all their math or spelling or whatever. Surely it is to the kids' benefit to go into school next year with some education to prepare them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:16:53 here again: By setting up a schedule, I think it is good to at least start the day with some structure: I.e. at 8:30 they work on X for 30 min. and then at 9:00 they work on Y. And at 10:00 they read for 30 min. or whatever.

BTW, if you are looking for math resources, the Compass downloads are very easy to understand and you wouldn't need to be there for it. They are short and go with the Saxon math books.

I know you are burned out from the DL situation, but it's only January. You are going to have to fill a lot of time between now and August. You will need to come up with something.

The parents work full time!!!

yes, I realize that. But are they simply going to ignore them all day everyday? Until August? They (the parents) will have to provide some supervision. They don't need to "teach" them all morning. Just get them started on doing X pages in X workbook, then signing on to the download for Compass or something else, etc. The parents are going to have to do something with the kids to keep them on schedule at least for part of the day.

+1, parents just want to sit back, do nothing, and blame someone else.