4th grade dropouts

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:So the first two posters are saying that this is a parenting issue? Perhaps you've been terribly overworked or sick, who knows. But a child's academic regression in times of distance learning is squarely dependent on his home environment and how much his parents are able/willing to supervise and manage.


GMAFB. A child's regression in a time of distance learning is squarely a reflection of the failure of the SCHOOLS TO EDUCATE HIM.



This is also true - the summer regression is real and measurable. It's like they've had a year of summer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Tell you school board and superintendent, not just your principal. The principal doesn't make the decisions about whether the school stays open or not.


Thanks for the suggestion - I've written to them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:But virtual learning is just as good as real school ! Teachers are working SOOOOO hard. My kid is attending class and doing all the work and he has still forgotten a TON he knew last year. Guess why? Because this is not effective.


My kid has also been doing the work and logging in to class and his handwriting has become illegible, he can no longer spell basic words and he has forgotten almost all his division/multiplication facts (5th grade AAP!). And I think his reading hasn't improved in over a year.

Are parents supposed to be teaching a parallel homeschool curriculum in addition to the FCPS Google Slides Curriculum?
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Anonymous wrote:I'm not really sure what it means to be honest. I'm not signing up for a homeschooling program. My husband and I both work although our hours are flexible. This afternoon we just all sort of hit the wall. My kids had epic meltdowns after school - my daughter crying endlessly about her headache - and then I got another email from FCPS pushing back distance learning and we decided we can't do it anymore.


Are you familiar with Virginia’s compulsory education laws?


Ha I cannot believe the drama that would ensue if they enforced these laws this year.
Anonymous
OP, can you afford something like Mathnasium?
Anonymous
No plan to homeschool or another school is neglect. Why on earth would you do that?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:16:53 here again: By setting up a schedule, I think it is good to at least start the day with some structure: I.e. at 8:30 they work on X for 30 min. and then at 9:00 they work on Y. And at 10:00 they read for 30 min. or whatever.

BTW, if you are looking for math resources, the Compass downloads are very easy to understand and you wouldn't need to be there for it. They are short and go with the Saxon math books.

I know you are burned out from the DL situation, but it's only January. You are going to have to fill a lot of time between now and August. You will need to come up with something.


The parents work full time!!!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm not really sure what it means to be honest. I'm not signing up for a homeschooling program. My husband and I both work although our hours are flexible. This afternoon we just all sort of hit the wall. My kids had epic meltdowns after school - my daughter crying endlessly about her headache - and then I got another email from FCPS pushing back distance learning and we decided we can't do it anymore.


Are you familiar with Virginia’s compulsory education laws?


How can it be compulsory if the state fails to provide an education? Sounds like a great defense to me. Let the county try to defend its alleged educational services this year.


This is how I feel a bit. I'm sort of shocked at myself because I strongly believe in education. But if they aren't providing an effective education to my kids, why should I force them to sit there all day?


then don't the laws all concern attendance, they don't say anything about participation. Counties have decided that being logged in is attendance, so log in and step away


But that feels fraudulent as well - and then my daughter will get zeros on all the tests. Simply so that FCPS will get the federal money to teach children that they aren't teaching.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So the first two posters are saying that this is a parenting issue? Perhaps you've been terribly overworked or sick, who knows. But a child's academic regression in times of distance learning is squarely dependent on his home environment and how much his parents are able/willing to supervise and manage.


My kids are fairly privileged - my husband and I both work from home, my daughter goes to one of those math tutoring services once a week and they are smart kids. But we can't sit there next to them all day - for one thing, the zoom classes give me a migraine too!


I believe you might need to shift your expectations.

Don’t sit next to them during the class, go sit after and review the material. We have to do it with my SPED kid regardless of the pandemic. It’s not hard to teach them 4th grade material. I work FT too as does my DH.


The trouble is that it's twins and I simply can't keep up with both of their work. I've tried sitting with them on Mondays doing asynchronous work but it's an all day thing if I do it for both of them and their older sister.


You need child care.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:No plan to homeschool or another school is neglect. Why on earth would you do that?


OP is caring for the mental health of her children and her family. That's not neglect. It's the opposite.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:No plan to homeschool or another school is neglect. Why on earth would you do that?


FCPS virtual learning is educational neglect.
Anonymous
Well appreciate the teachers more. See, you cant do it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Well appreciate the teachers more. See, you cant do it.


Right now it's hard to appreciate one teacher who is teaching from Florida, one who bragged about going skiing for the upcoming long weekend and one whose baby cries all day.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Well appreciate the teachers more. See, you cant do it.


Uh, the teachers can't either. That's the point.

It's not the teachers' fault. It's the medium. It is what it is.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So the first two posters are saying that this is a parenting issue? Perhaps you've been terribly overworked or sick, who knows. But a child's academic regression in times of distance learning is squarely dependent on his home environment and how much his parents are able/willing to supervise and manage.


My kids are fairly privileged - my husband and I both work from home, my daughter goes to one of those math tutoring services once a week and they are smart kids. But we can't sit there next to them all day - for one thing, the zoom classes give me a migraine too!


I believe you might need to shift your expectations.

Don’t sit next to them during the class, go sit after and review the material. We have to do it with my SPED kid regardless of the pandemic. It’s not hard to teach them 4th grade material. I work FT too as does my DH.


The trouble is that it's twins and I simply can't keep up with both of their work. I've tried sitting with them on Mondays doing asynchronous work but it's an all day thing if I do it for both of them and their older sister.


I enlisted my parents to help over Zoom with social studies.

Otherwise, DH and I divide and conquer. Yesterday I was working on reading with the younger one and he worked with the older kid reviewing math. Tbh, I am prepared to do school once again with my kids. We studied solfeggi a couple of days ago and DC still did not do too great (I'd fail too if I had to take the assessment).
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