4th grade dropouts

[Anonymous]

You have to admit, whatever comes of this mess the simple plan around competition with private school students for spots in college (level of math, SAT's, etc) is simply community college and then transfer to a state school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You have to admit, whatever comes of this mess the simple plan around competition with private school students for spots in college (level of math, SAT's, etc) is simply community college and then transfer to a state school.

I’m not sure exactly what you mean by this but, for sure, colleges are going to look at transcripts and recognize that students from certain public school systems will be ill-prepared compared to their homeschooling/private schooling counterparts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Kids who are naturally curious and motivated during “normal times” and who read daily will be fine in the long run. We are talking about elementary age children. Educational attainment and the pursuit of lifetime learning do matter. But, whether my child is successful in life isn’t going to depend on whether he learns long division in 4th grade or whether he learns it in 5th.

It took me a months to come to grips with that. But, I am a much more content person for having done so.

But the educational standards actually depend on your child learning long division at that age. If they have to learn long division in 5th, then they won't learn what they are supposed to learn in 5th. That has repercussions all the way up to what class he or she takes in high school - Algebra 2 or Calculus. It will impact their score on the SAT. If your child has to compete with a privately educated child for a spot in a university, who do you think will win?

And if they go to college, this effects how long it will take to graduate and student loans.

Oh my, a student doesn't learn long division in fifth grade and all of the sudden he's a college failure and has $500,000 in student loans. Boy oh boy, you guys really are out there today.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People who are saying that elementary “kids are getting behind:

Behind what? Behind who?

Behind 50% of the kids who have had in school since August and all the private school kids in school in this area.

Okay but why does that matter? Different districts across the country have always had different curriculums. Some are more rigorous than others. (And children of UMC parents always do fine, no matter where they go.)

What does it matter? Really?? Thousands of kids (regardless of socioeconomic status) not reaching their potential, losing their interest in a school and learning, missing important developmental milestones in reading and math during the critical period of time in which their brains are primed to learn them, some older ones will drop out all together and never get a high school diploma. These kids MATTER. Society will feel the consequences of this for generations. Delinquency numbers will be at all time highs and reading and math proficiency rates will be at all time lows. Our educational outcomes were already poor as a nation and they are going to get way worse. I can’t believe you would say “well what does it matter- everyone will be behind”
FFS

Oh honey, are you new around here? Plenty of DCUM moms don’t care about the poors. Those kids don’t matter to them and never will. It’s really sad and it’s an excellent reminder that DCUM is not an accurate reflection of the real world.