UVA possibility

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Anonymous wrote:Does an in-state student with similar SAT score / grades have a shot at RD? NOVA, so I'm guessing no, but would like confirmation.

They have to begin in the top 10% of their class. So TJ/Langley/McLean etc? Probably no. Herdon/Justice etc? Maybe.

Top 10% of TJ will not even apply to uva.

They may apply, but they are probably going to go elsewhere. They often will get attractive financial offers and/or go to Ivy+ types of schools.

Top 50 % of TJ kids shun uva. Bottom 1/3 apply and about 45 kids from the bottom 20% attend except for few Jefferson scholars and merit scholars.

If you look at where TJ students matriculate, only 20% attend a college ranked higher than UVA. The other 80% attend a similarly rated school or mostly one rated lower. Though UVA may not be the first choice for the very best TJ students, it clearly is a prize for even the very good students.

That would be more like 70-75% not 20%.

Ha! Clearly, someone didn’t get in. Facts are stubborn. Get the matriculation list and count the numbers attending lower ranked schools. Once one adds in the value of in-state tuition for UVA vs the cost of OOS or private and the negligible educational difference of schools ranked slightly higher, the appeal of UVA shines even brighter. Sorry, UVA hater.

I think you mistakenly ranked UVA as number 15.

Quite a few that are going to schools that are "lower ranked" are in enrolling in programs that are better than UVA's equivalent. Illinois engineering and computer science are two good examples at one school. The stubborn fact is the number of TJ students going to UVA has been going down steadily over time, from 105 in 2012 to 40 this year. The UVA boosters attribute this solely to UVA becoming more selective. I think the bigger factor is they see better STEM opportunities in programs like Illinois.

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Anonymous wrote:Does an in-state student with similar SAT score / grades have a shot at RD? NOVA, so I'm guessing no, but would like confirmation.

They have to begin in the top 10% of their class. So TJ/Langley/McLean etc? Probably no. Herdon/Justice etc? Maybe.

Top 10% of TJ will not even apply to uva.

They may apply, but they are probably going to go elsewhere. They often will get attractive financial offers and/or go to Ivy+ types of schools.

Top 50 % of TJ kids shun uva. Bottom 1/3 apply and about 45 kids from the bottom 20% attend except for few Jefferson scholars and merit scholars.

If you look at where TJ students matriculate, only 20% attend a college ranked higher than UVA. The other 80% attend a similarly rated school or mostly one rated lower. Though UVA may not be the first choice for the very best TJ students, it clearly is a prize for even the very good students.

That would be more like 70-75% not 20%.

Ha! Clearly, someone didn’t get in. Facts are stubborn. Get the matriculation list and count the numbers attending lower ranked schools. Once one adds in the value of in-state tuition for UVA vs the cost of OOS or private and the negligible educational difference of schools ranked slightly higher, the appeal of UVA shines even brighter. Sorry, UVA hater.

I think you mistakenly ranked UVA as number 15.

Quite a few that are going to schools that are "lower ranked" are in enrolling in programs that are better than UVA's equivalent. Illinois engineering and computer science are two good examples at one school. The stubborn fact is the number of TJ students going to UVA has been going down steadily over time, from 105 in 2012 to 40 this year. The UVA boosters attribute this solely to UVA becoming more selective. I think the bigger factor is they see better STEM opportunities in programs like Illinois.

Agree.

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Anonymous wrote:Does an in-state student with similar SAT score / grades have a shot at RD? NOVA, so I'm guessing no, but would like confirmation.

They have to begin in the top 10% of their class. So TJ/Langley/McLean etc? Probably no. Herdon/Justice etc? Maybe.

Top 10% of TJ will not even apply to uva.

They may apply, but they are probably going to go elsewhere. They often will get attractive financial offers and/or go to Ivy+ types of schools.

Top 50 % of TJ kids shun uva. Bottom 1/3 apply and about 45 kids from the bottom 20% attend except for few Jefferson scholars and merit scholars.

If you look at where TJ students matriculate, only 20% attend a college ranked higher than UVA. The other 80% attend a similarly rated school or mostly one rated lower. Though UVA may not be the first choice for the very best TJ students, it clearly is a prize for even the very good students.

That would be more like 70-75% not 20%.

Ha! Clearly, someone didn’t get in. Facts are stubborn. Get the matriculation list and count the numbers attending lower ranked schools. Once one adds in the value of in-state tuition for UVA vs the cost of OOS or private and the negligible educational difference of schools ranked slightly higher, the appeal of UVA shines even brighter. Sorry, UVA hater.

I think you mistakenly ranked UVA as number 15.

Quite a few that are going to schools that are "lower ranked" are in enrolling in programs that are better than UVA's equivalent. Illinois engineering and computer science are two good examples at one school. The stubborn fact is the number of TJ students going to UVA has been going down steadily over time, from 105 in 2012 to 40 this year. The UVA boosters attribute this solely to UVA becoming more selective. I think the bigger factor is they see better STEM opportunities in programs like Illinois.

This makes total sense. UVA is great for premed but wouldn’t be great for engineering or CS, which is what many of the tj kids are into.

Agree.