UVA possibility

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Anonymous wrote:This board is not the place to get honest info on UVA.

This board is the place to get the truth about uva.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems a bit light for an out of state applicant, but I’m no expert!

Its exactly the middle of their range overall; no idea what OOS range is though.

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Anonymous wrote:Does an in-state student with similar SAT score / grades have a shot at RD? NOVA, so I'm guessing no, but would like confirmation.

They have to begin in the top 10% of their class. So TJ/Langley/McLean etc? Probably no. Herdon/Justice etc? Maybe.

Top 10% of TJ will not even apply to uva.

They may apply, but they are probably going to go elsewhere. They often will get attractive financial offers and/or go to Ivy+ types of schools.

Lol! If they are first gen or non-Asian URM then sure, hello Ivy! Otherwise, they get the same merit at next tier SLACs etc as the Langley and McLean kids.

I didn't say all was merit. I said attractive financial offers. As for the top 10% going elsewhere, for 2020, there were 36 going to Ivy League schools, 11 to MIT and Stanford, and another 13 at Caltech, Chicago, and Duke. So there were 60 going to those schools alone from a class of about 455.

So 395 of Fairfax County's strongest students end up at good but not great schools? I've always wondered about the TJ or bust mentality when 200 top 1 percent kids end up bottom 50 percent kids whose prospects are worse than top 10 percent of base schools.

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Anonymous wrote:If you don't live in Virginia, why on earth would you go to UVA. Good discounted college if you live in Virginia, but av bad deal OOS.

Where do you recommend instead?

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Anonymous wrote:Does an in-state student with similar SAT score / grades have a shot at RD? NOVA, so I'm guessing no, but would like confirmation.

They have to begin in the top 10% of their class. So TJ/Langley/McLean etc? Probably no. Herdon/Justice etc? Maybe.

Top 10% of TJ will not even apply to uva.

They may apply, but they are probably going to go elsewhere. They often will get attractive financial offers and/or go to Ivy+ types of schools.

Top 50 % of TJ kids shun uva. Bottom 1/3 apply and about 45 kids from the bottom 20% attend except for few Jefferson scholars and merit scholars.

If you look at where TJ students matriculate, only 20% attend a college ranked higher than UVA. The other 80% attend a similarly rated school or mostly one rated lower. Though UVA may not be the first choice for the very best TJ students, it clearly is a prize for even the very good students.

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Anonymous wrote:Does an in-state student with similar SAT score / grades have a shot at RD? NOVA, so I'm guessing no, but would like confirmation.

They have to begin in the top 10% of their class. So TJ/Langley/McLean etc? Probably no. Herdon/Justice etc? Maybe.

Top 10% of TJ will not even apply to uva.

They may apply, but they are probably going to go elsewhere. They often will get attractive financial offers and/or go to Ivy+ types of schools.

Top 50 % of TJ kids shun uva. Bottom 1/3 apply and about 45 kids from the bottom 20% attend except for few Jefferson scholars and merit scholars.

If you look at where TJ students matriculate, only 20% attend a college ranked higher than UVA. The other 80% attend a similarly rated school or mostly one rated lower. Though UVA may not be the first choice for the very best TJ students, it clearly is a prize for even the very good students.

That would be more like 70-75% not 20%.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems a bit light for an out of state applicant, but I’m no expert!

Its exactly the middle of their range overall; no idea what OOS range is though.

For the class of 2023, the mean SAT accepted for out of state was 1460. I think the SAT is probably fine, what I think may be light is the ECs. Don’t see a lot of leadership in there. Don’t know much about the private school world and how the grades translate so can’t comment on that.

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Anonymous wrote:Does an in-state student with similar SAT score / grades have a shot at RD? NOVA, so I'm guessing no, but would like confirmation.

They have to begin in the top 10% of their class. So TJ/Langley/McLean etc? Probably no. Herdon/Justice etc? Maybe.

Top 10% of TJ will not even apply to uva.

They may apply, but they are probably going to go elsewhere. They often will get attractive financial offers and/or go to Ivy+ types of schools.

Top 50 % of TJ kids shun uva. Bottom 1/3 apply and about 45 kids from the bottom 20% attend except for few Jefferson scholars and merit scholars.

If you look at where TJ students matriculate, only 20% attend a college ranked higher than UVA. The other 80% attend a similarly rated school or mostly one rated lower. Though UVA may not be the first choice for the very best TJ students, it clearly is a prize for even the very good students.

That would be more like 70-75% not 20%.

Ha! Clearly, someone didn’t get in. Facts are stubborn. Get the matriculation list and count the numbers attending lower ranked schools. Once one adds in the value of in-state tuition for UVA vs the cost of OOS or private and the negligible educational difference of schools ranked slightly higher, the appeal of UVA shines even brighter. Sorry, UVA hater.

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Anonymous wrote:Know a number of in-state kids who did not get into UVA with similar stats. I probably wouldn't submit a 1420. With test-optional, only students with high scores are going to submit. So a 1420 will be comparatively lower than previous years.

If looking for STEM, check out VA Tech. Would stand a much better chance of getting in there. Good luck!

Depends what major in Stem. Engineers is 4.2 average at va tech

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Anonymous wrote:UVA is filled with rednecks, rapists and drunk frat boys and their stem and cs programs are awful.

This.

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Anonymous wrote:Does an in-state student with similar SAT score / grades have a shot at RD? NOVA, so I'm guessing no, but would like confirmation.

They have to begin in the top 10% of their class. So TJ/Langley/McLean etc? Probably no. Herdon/Justice etc? Maybe.

Top 10% of TJ will not even apply to uva.

They may apply, but they are probably going to go elsewhere. They often will get attractive financial offers and/or go to Ivy+ types of schools.

Top 50 % of TJ kids shun uva. Bottom 1/3 apply and about 45 kids from the bottom 20% attend except for few Jefferson scholars and merit scholars.

If you look at where TJ students matriculate, only 20% attend a college ranked higher than UVA. The other 80% attend a similarly rated school or mostly one rated lower. Though UVA may not be the first choice for the very best TJ students, it clearly is a prize for even the very good students.

That would be more like 70-75% not 20%.

Ha! Clearly, someone didn’t get in. Facts are stubborn. Get the matriculation list and count the numbers attending lower ranked schools. Once one adds in the value of in-state tuition for UVA vs the cost of OOS or private and the negligible educational difference of schools ranked slightly higher, the appeal of UVA shines even brighter. Sorry, UVA hater.

I think you mistakenly ranked UVA as number 15.

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Anonymous wrote:What is URM? EA? ED? AP? RD? TJ? DD? DS? SLACS?

I know what STEM and UVA are, and I thought ED was erectile dysfunction, but apparently I'm wrong. Would it kill you people to write in complete sentences? Or, as I was taught when writing an academic paper, maybe type it out the first time you use it, then abbreviate.

Maybe do a bit of your own college research before posting on a college forum? 🙄

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Anonymous wrote:Does an in-state student with similar SAT score / grades have a shot at RD? NOVA, so I'm guessing no, but would like confirmation.

They have to begin in the top 10% of their class. So TJ/Langley/McLean etc? Probably no. Herdon/Justice etc? Maybe.

Top 10% of TJ will not even apply to uva.

They may apply, but they are probably going to go elsewhere. They often will get attractive financial offers and/or go to Ivy+ types of schools.

Lol! If they are first gen or non-Asian URM then sure, hello Ivy! Otherwise, they get the same merit at next tier SLACs etc as the Langley and McLean kids.

I didn't say all was merit. I said attractive financial offers. As for the top 10% going elsewhere, for 2020, there were 36 going to Ivy League schools, 11 to MIT and Stanford, and another 13 at Caltech, Chicago, and Duke. So there were 60 going to those schools alone from a class of about 455.

So 395 of Fairfax County's strongest students end up at good but not great schools? I've always wondered about the TJ or bust mentality when 200 top 1 percent kids end up bottom 50 percent kids whose prospects are worse than top 10 percent of base schools.

So you are saying anything below these 12 schools are good but not great?

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A chance, but have back ups and get to know and like them.

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Anonymous wrote:Does an in-state student with similar SAT score / grades have a shot at RD? NOVA, so I'm guessing no, but would like confirmation.

They have to begin in the top 10% of their class. So TJ/Langley/McLean etc? Probably no. Herdon/Justice etc? Maybe.

Top 10% of TJ will not even apply to uva.

They may apply, but they are probably going to go elsewhere. They often will get attractive financial offers and/or go to Ivy+ types of schools.

Lol! If they are first gen or non-Asian URM then sure, hello Ivy! Otherwise, they get the same merit at next tier SLACs etc as the Langley and McLean kids.

I didn't say all was merit. I said attractive financial offers. As for the top 10% going elsewhere, for 2020, there were 36 going to Ivy League schools, 11 to MIT and Stanford, and another 13 at Caltech, Chicago, and Duke. So there were 60 going to those schools alone from a class of about 455.

So 395 of Fairfax County's strongest students end up at good but not great schools? I've always wondered about the TJ or bust mentality when 200 top 1 percent kids end up bottom 50 percent kids whose prospects are worse than top 10 percent of base schools.

In addition to above mentioned schools, each year about 10 go to Berkeley, 13 go yo CMU, 11 go to JHU, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, 9 go to Rice, WUSL, Notre Dame, 8 go to UCLA, Emory, Georgetown, 14 go to Michigan and 6 go to USC, NYU.