secular Christmas is an oxymoron

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why? No actual birth at this time of anyone (!) and quite a bit of pagan celebration...the tree and fantastical man delivering gifts, not to mention flying reindeer. Oh, and the consumer aspect? How is that Christianity? What about the capitalism aspect- is THAT what brings you to align with modern Christianity?

Your joy is my joy! Christ came to save us all so Merry Christmas, my friend, however you celebrate!

[Anonymous]

I have some Christian friends who don't believe in celebrating the birth of Jesus on December 25 because the date is incorrect and the celebration is too pagan. Get your people together and figure it out before you come after us seculars.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So if there is separation of church and state, how can Christmas be a religious holiday at the same time it is a national holiday?

+1

This isn't a "Christian nation".

-1 There isn't as much separation as there should be!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have some Christian friends who don't believe in celebrating the birth of Jesus on December 25 because the date is incorrect and the celebration is too pagan. Get your people together and figure it out before you come after us seculars.

Are they Jehovah Witnesses? They are not wrong to choose not to celebrate, we did just pick the day, we do know it’s not the actual day of his birth. But it’s the day chosen once a year that we do choose to celebrate Jesus being born.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have some Christian friends who don't believe in celebrating the birth of Jesus on December 25 because the date is incorrect and the celebration is too pagan. Get your people together and figure it out before you come after us seculars.

God’s love and salvation in and through Christ is available to us all, no matter how you choose to join us in celebrating his birth during the Christmas season! Merry Christmas, my friend!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have some Christian friends who don't believe in celebrating the birth of Jesus on December 25 because the date is incorrect and the celebration is too pagan. Get your people together and figure it out before you come after us seculars.

Are they Jehovah Witnesses? They are not wrong to choose not to celebrate, we did just pick the day, we do know it’s not the actual day of his birth. But it’s the day chosen once a year that we do choose to celebrate Jesus being born.

Not that poster, but several of my Presbyterian friends do not celebrate with a tree, stockings, or gifts. It's all religion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you are not a Christian you are celebrating commercial Christmas not secular Christmas.

Pope Francis, is that you???

"Hear the word that the Lord speaks to you, O house of Israel. Thus says the Lord: “Learn not the way of the nations, nor be dismayed at the signs of the heavens because the nations are dismayed at them, for the customs of the peoples are vanity. A tree from the forest is cut down and worked with an axe by the hands of a craftsman. They decorate it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so that it cannot move. Their idols are like scarecrows in a cucumber field, and they cannot speak; they have to be carried, for they cannot walk. Do not be afraid of them, for they cannot do evil, neither is it in them to do good.” …

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have some Christian friends who don't believe in celebrating the birth of Jesus on December 25 because the date is incorrect and the celebration is too pagan. Get your people together and figure it out before you come after us seculars.

God’s love and salvation in and through Christ is available to us all, no matter how you choose to join us in celebrating his birth during the Christmas season! Merry Christmas, my friend!

Thank you and Merry Christmas to you!

[Mytimemarie]

Anonymous wrote:If you are not a Christian you are celebrating commercial Christmas not secular Christmas.

I didn't realize that you were in charge of how we use words.
Secular means the version without a god...so, by definition, you are wrong. I know that you are just trying to devalue any christmas that doesn't have your silly magician jesus in it, but you are simply wrong.
Christmas isn't about jesus. It is about culture.
You think that GIFTS are what Jesus would want you to do? Gifts and decorations?
Amazing...

[Anonymous]

I assume you are American, OP? You basically appropriated Christmas from Europe. I’m European and an atheist and will continue to celebrate Christmas with a tree, lights, carols, food, alcohol (lots), presents and all those traditions from home. Perhaps you’d like to start your own American Christmas traditions without pagan roots?

[Anonymous]

Yeah, the whole thing is secular. Everywhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I call it 'cultural Christmas'

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Same with Easter, but we still hunt eggs and don't talk about Jesus! I'll wait while you lecture me.

While we're at it, let's dissect St Patrick's Day. Or Halloween. Do you celebrate those OP? They each have religious origins that culturally are ignored. Christmas is no different really.

Not OP, but I don’t really find any of these to be as problematic as far as secular celebrations really intruding on the religious holiday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you are not a Christian you are celebrating commercial Christmas not secular Christmas.

Why do (some) Christians feel the need to dictate what is sufficient for a Christmas celebration? Or get so offended by the notion that others celebrate differently? Mind your own business. Don't judge others or worry about what others do. The fact that others celebrate differently doesn't lessen the way you choose to celebrate.

It really is that simple.

[Anonymous]

I assure you we happily celebrate each year as my 5 yo has no idea who Jesus is.