Clueless! How much for kitchen remodel?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does Redbird have a build arm? Or did you find a GC?

There is a contractor she recommends and partners with a lot, but they had a high estimate for us. We used a different GC that she recommended but was not as closely tied to.

If you use her partner GC, there is an option for her to act as project manager (for an extra fee of course).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m trying to get a realistic kitchen remodel range of price.
Small colonial, removing wall between kitchen, dining room to create larger kitchen.
Need cabinets, flooring, lighting, countertops, island, move sink to island, mid-range appliances.
Any thoughts?

I'm giving you an honest answer.

1) There is no way to give you an estimate without first understanding your space and its quirks. The range can be so wide it's meaningless.

2) The cost will depend ENTIRELY on how much stress and effort you're willing to outsource.

3) It will also depend (not as much but substantially) on how brand- and outlet-obsessed you are.

We did a 300 sq ft kitchen five years ago (as part of an overall house redo). IKEA cabs with custom fronts, Thermador appliances (craigslist), hardwoods, handmade Tunisian tile (direct from a factory), quartz countertops (had to pay retail). All in it was MAYBE 40k? Came out magazine-quality, just amazing. This is how we did it.

We first drew up a plan. You should not cut any corners on this. It takes time and effort to understand your requirements (the way your family cooks, eats and lives) and then develop a plan to reflect them. We then used a kitchen designer to just draw the plan. DH is super handy so he assembled and installed all cabinets. Cabinet fronts came from Scherr's (there are many other places doing custom fronts for IKEA boxes). We did not have a GC and just hired tradesmen as necessary (but then again we put time and effort into managing them). We are in VA so homeowners can handle their own permitting. That's how it happened.

Now it's entirely possible that you are not handy, or are not craigslist/IKEA people, or don't want to hire and manage your own tradesmen. I completely understand this. Then see my point 2) above about paying to outsource stress and effort.

Good luck!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We replaced everything in our kitchen and didn't move walls - cost was $70K for really good cabinets, new lighting, wood floors, quartzite countertops, island, all new appliances, hardware, etc. This was with a design build firm in Fairfax County - full service design and project management.

Who was the design build?

Moss Building & Design

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m trying to get a realistic kitchen remodel range of price.
Small colonial, removing wall between kitchen, dining room to create larger kitchen.
Need cabinets, flooring, lighting, countertops, island, move sink to island, mid-range appliances.
Any thoughts?

I'm giving you an honest answer.

1) There is no way to give you an estimate without first understanding your space and its quirks. The range can be so wide it's meaningless.

2) The cost will depend ENTIRELY on how much stress and effort you're willing to outsource.

3) It will also depend (not as much but substantially) on how brand- and outlet-obsessed you are.

We did a 300 sq ft kitchen five years ago (as part of an overall house redo). IKEA cabs with custom fronts, Thermador appliances (craigslist), hardwoods, handmade Tunisian tile (direct from a factory), quartz countertops (had to pay retail). All in it was MAYBE 40k? Came out magazine-quality, just amazing. This is how we did it.

We first drew up a plan. You should not cut any corners on this. It takes time and effort to understand your requirements (the way your family cooks, eats and lives) and then develop a plan to reflect them. We then used a kitchen designer to just draw the plan. DH is super handy so he assembled and installed all cabinets. Cabinet fronts came from Scherr's (there are many other places doing custom fronts for IKEA boxes). We did not have a GC and just hired tradesmen as necessary (but then again we put time and effort into managing them). We are in VA so homeowners can handle their own permitting. That's how it happened.

Now it's entirely possible that you are not handy, or are not craigslist/IKEA people, or don't want to hire and manage your own tradesmen. I completely understand this. Then see my point 2) above about paying to outsource stress and effort.

Good luck!

+1

We had kitchen that we remodeled for 23k. It wasn’t perfect but we had quartz cabinets, new rta cabinets (7k), and replaced old vinyl floors with hardwood. If you are willing to do the work to design, measure and plan, it can be done.

If you don’t move plumbing or appliances you can keep the costs down. Moving the sink causes issues- it delays the project by days and the labor costs do drive that up. The wall will also be costly.

At minimum- my estimate is 80k for you. It will take a week to remove the wall properly and reframe and drywall (and have the sheet rock dry) and demo. The plumbing will be another week alongside updating electrical and building the island. A few days for kitchen cabinet installation. If you have a bulkhead- add a week for plumbing and hvac changed if there are any.

Then there is painting, tile, flooring- another week.

[Anonymous]

Not OP, but related kitchen reno question. How much should it cost to reface cabinets, replace counters with quartz, change backsplash to subway tile. 12 x 15 L-shaped kitchen with breakfast bar and decent size island with drawers and cabinets on one side.

[Anonymous]

Honestly- I did this and it was 125k for a 15x17 kitchen. We removed a wall between kitchen and breakfast nook/butlers pantry to make one medium sized kitchen. We did mostly high end appliances, so you can save money there, but a lot of the cost was architectural and structural since we were getting a removing a wall. Once we were spending like 50k on the structural, plumbing and electric I didn’t want to do lower end finishings. Custom cabinetry was 30k- relatively good deal, appliances about 20, then counters, backsplash and hardware were like 15-20 (quartz counters backsplash and RH hardware.)Floors were relatively inexpensive. We did some custom electric work and radiant heat floors that added some cost. Doing structural work just doubles the cost of renovating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not OP, but related kitchen reno question. How much should it cost to reface cabinets, replace counters with quartz, change backsplash to subway tile. 12 x 15 L-shaped kitchen with breakfast bar and decent size island with drawers and cabinets on one side.

You could probably paint cabinets for 5k, replace your counters for 10-15k, and spend like 1.5k on a new backsplash. Not sure about labor for removing existing countertops and backsplash.

[Anonymous]

The price always goes up when you’re in CC.

We just remodeled our kitchen/office area to combine the two and enhance the size.

I had so many quotes with all different ranges. 100 was the highest, 60-70 was the average, and that did not include painting or the removal or walls or moving plumbing.

In the end, we decided to reface / redoor the cabinets. That cost 25k alone. Honestly, they look amazing.

All in, we spent approx 41,000.....all new appliances, quartz countertops, marble herringbone backsplash, etc.

This isn’t our forever home, so we didn’t want to go too crazy.

Good luck! That CCMD address always doubles the price.

-signed, CCMD resident

[Anonymous]

We are spending about $70k for a pretty extensive kitchen remodel that involved taking down a few walls, one of which was load bearing. We went with Caesartone quartz countertops and all GE profile appliances. If we had gone with one of the big name design centers we’d prob be spending $100k. Glad we went with small independent guy. They are also quick as h*ll, expect it to take four weeks total.

[Anonymous]

We did exactly this for $70k, but we reused appliances (had to replace earlier than we were ready for renovation) so maybe $80k?

[Anonymous]

We just did a complete remodel, meaning going down to studs, new plumbing, dedicated outlets, recessed lighting, and so on, here is a brief breakdown:
materials:
- drywall: $2k
- new cabinets: $8k (not custom or anything, just standard)
- quartz countertops and sink: $5k
- appliances: 15k (stove, hood, fridge, hood, microwave, dish disposal)
- lighting: 2k
- flooring: 4k
- moving a
- paint, tools, nails, moving a register - another 2k at least
- backsplash - 1.6k


so about 40k on just materials. we did a lot of the work ourselves, my husband is handy and my father in-law is a contractor, but if we were to go with a contract entirely, we would be pushing 80 most likely, because a contractor hires out a plumber, an electrician, drywall guy, tile guy, floor guy and so on. it is ridiculously expensive.

[Anonymous]

$65k

[Anonymous]

Small contractor. Labor $10-15, cabinets $10-15, appliances $5-6, countertops $3-5, floor $1, finishes and supplies another $1. So depending on your appliances and cabinets $35-45

[Anonymous]

Wow. We are in MoCo and redid our kitchen (30 year old house) last year for less than $40K. Removed the wall between kitchen and dining room. (Discovered a waste pipe, so that was a surprise cost.) Relocated the door to the basement. Relocated gas stove. Cabinets from Home Depot, quartz counters, all new GE Cafe appliances, hardwood floors, new lighting, subway tile backsplash, granite sink, and more. We met with Cabinet Discounters initially, but tweaked that design ourselves, with a few suggestions from the Home Depot guy. No hired architect or designer. Used a kitchen/bath company that Home Depot uses, but hired them ourselves, rather going through HD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are spending about $70k for a pretty extensive kitchen remodel that involved taking down a few walls, one of which was load bearing. We went with Caesartone quartz countertops and all GE profile appliances. If we had gone with one of the big name design centers we’d prob be spending $100k. Glad we went with small independent guy. They are also quick as h*ll, expect it to take four weeks total.

OK, talk to me when it's done. My 4-5 week project took 9, though I was still happy overall. They always tell you less.