Clueless! How much for kitchen remodel?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:$75-$100k


This is more realistic. Cabinets alone can cost $40. It really depends how high end you are getting with everything. What type of appliances? In your area I would be shocked if you could do this as low as $40 as others have mentioned. I would guess, depending on what you choose, $70-$150.


40K for cabinets is a rip-off unless your kitchen is massively huge.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP here—in Chevy chase, md. The wall is not load-bearing.
One well known kitchen design firm (cabinet sellers) quoted $155-$210K which is outrageous
I want the non-Chevy chase price


Lol! Good on you OP for recognizing the rip off.

I love hearing these Chevy Chase price stories. Are there that many stupid rich people that the price gougers still do this?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Where are you? That matters. In NW DC, this is a 75k+ job. Also depends on whether the wall is load-bearing, how much you are changing the layout, etc.


Yes, are you in the area? I’m in NW DC. Mine was 100, but would have been closer to 75 if I had chosen different appliances.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP here—in Chevy chase, md. The wall is not load-bearing.
One well known kitchen design firm (cabinet sellers) quoted $155-$210K which is outrageous
I want the non-Chevy chase price


That is high, even for CC. What are your plans?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’m trying to get a realistic kitchen remodel range of price.
Small colonial, removing wall between kitchen, dining room to create larger kitchen.
Need cabinets, flooring, lighting, countertops, island, move sink to island, mid-range appliances.
Any thoughts?


80 to 100K, excluding appliances and architect fees. In progress on a reno that includes this sort of kitchen remodeling. People claiming 40 to 50K aren't realistic. We had a number of GC's bid, and no one was near that low.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If you want to save money, go with more of an experienced handyman type to do the work. A design-build firm will be $$$$.


Sorry, but using an 'experienced handyman' for a kitchen remodel that includes knocking out a wall and reconfiguration is unrealistic. How are you going to get permits?
Anonymous
To move nothing, no floor plan change, just redo the layout we had we were quoted $40k on our tiny Springfield place. When we talked about knocking down a non-load bearing wall it jumped to $60.
Anonymous
We're in CC and redid our tiny kitchen 5+yrs ago and it cost us $40k easy. And yes the biggest cost in cabinets. I'm adding a few cabinets right now and 6 linear feet of a low/mid-range semi-custom cabinets are costing $5k without installation. In a good sized kitchen, you can easily hit $40k for cabinets alone, and way beyond if you're working with a higher end kitchen shop. Unless you have serious DIY skills, you're probably looking at $75k-$100k for a reasonable but not super luxe new kitchen.
Anonymous
These prices all sound so very high! What about just new cabinets, counters and backsplashes in a small urban kitchen?
Anonymous
We are in Fairfax and so far have quotes ranging from 50K - 80K, and we are not moving anything nor removing any walls. It's just for replacing everything, including the floor. And those are just the estimates - I expect it to be more. If anyone in my area got a kitchen for less, I would love to know how. Ikea?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you want to save money, go with more of an experienced handyman type to do the work. A design-build firm will be $$$$.


Sorry, but using an 'experienced handyman' for a kitchen remodel that includes knocking out a wall and reconfiguration is unrealistic. How are you going to get permits?


I would not take a homeowner/handyman’s word that a wall is not structurally important. Removing a wall needs at least a quick review by a structural engineer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you want to save money, go with more of an experienced handyman type to do the work. A design-build firm will be $$$$.


Sorry, but using an 'experienced handyman' for a kitchen remodel that includes knocking out a wall and reconfiguration is unrealistic. How are you going to get permits?


I would not take a homeowner/handyman’s word that a wall is not structurally important. Removing a wall needs at least a quick review by a structural engineer.


True. I'm the PP who said this and wasn't thinking about the wall removal. We used a handyman-type to do our kitchen remodel a few years back but we didn't remove any walls. He was licensed so permitting wasn't an issue and we saved quite a bit on labor. Total cost was ~30K for a smallish kitchen with new inset cabinets, soapstone counters, and mid-range appliances.
Anonymous
I'm in Philly and it's cheaper here but I did a similar project for about $75k. I'd be surprised if you could do it for less in your area.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you want to save money, go with more of an experienced handyman type to do the work. A design-build firm will be $$$$.


Sorry, but using an 'experienced handyman' for a kitchen remodel that includes knocking out a wall and reconfiguration is unrealistic. How are you going to get permits?


I would not take a homeowner/handyman’s word that a wall is not structurally important. Removing a wall needs at least a quick review by a structural engineer.


True. I'm the PP who said this and wasn't thinking about the wall removal. We used a handyman-type to do our kitchen remodel a few years back but we didn't remove any walls. He was licensed so permitting wasn't an issue and we saved quite a bit on labor. Total cost was ~30K for a smallish kitchen with new inset cabinets, soapstone counters, and mid-range appliances.


Unlicensed and unpermitted work? No thanks. Recipe for disaster. Guessing they didn't have workman's comp coverage either.
Anonymous
i'm also just starting the process and have been looking around. for my budgeting purposes, i'm going to use $300 per square foot based on:

"$300 per square foot for a whole house remodel" -- Bethesda Magazine, Apr 6, 2020

For kitchens: Remodeling's "2020 Cost vs Value Report found the average cost in the Washington DC area costs around $68,000. This works out to be $340 psf. ... A luxury remodel comes in at an average of $135,000 for Washington DC, the Cost Vs Value report found. The psf cost is $675" -- Sweeten, July 31, 2020

"whole-house renovation. This includes kitchen and baths: $200 to $300/sq.ft." -- Landis Construction

Room addition, not a kitchen: "our typical cost, square footage-wise is about $200 to $350 a square foot" -- Winthorpe Design and Build

Dry Space Costs@ $30 to $50 per square feet; Wet Spaces – Baths @ $400 per square feet & Kitchens $300 per square feet; Gut Remodeling with Customization @ $200 to $300 per square feet" -- Tejjy
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