Why doesn't MCPS care about Asian-Americans and feelings of bias/discrimination?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because the complaints among the Asian American parents are first world problems. When half the kids in your district aren’t fed, aren’t meeting grade level standards, and are adversely impacted by covid, poverty, and unemployment, it’s hard to care about who gets into magnet programs.

What are you rambling about? Asians can be low income. The county is doing a huge amount with food assistance as are many private organizations and individual schools. These issues were also pre-covid and funny thing, people like you didn't care or did MCPS.

Actually, MCPS has focused significantly on these issues before covid. And while there are some low-income Asians, no, it’s only a tiny percentage, compared with the more than half the county’s African American and Hispanic students who are low-income.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because the complaints among the Asian American parents are first world problems. When half the kids in your district aren’t fed, aren’t meeting grade level standards, and are adversely impacted by covid, poverty, and unemployment, it’s hard to care about who gets into magnet programs.

What are you rambling about? Asians can be low income. The county is doing a huge amount with food assistance as are many private organizations and individual schools. These issues were also pre-covid and funny thing, people like you didn't care or did MCPS.

Actually, MCPS has focused significantly on these issues before covid. And while there are some low-income Asians, no, it’s only a tiny percentage, compared with the more than half the county’s African American and Hispanic students who are low-income.

+1 Asian Americans can absolutely be low income, and have the same access to support for low-income students as anyone else (including any "boost" to applications for criteria-based programs). However, in general in the DMV, Asian Americans tend not to be low-income. This is different than New York or Minneapolis or Sacramento, where immigration patterns have created clusters of low-income Asian American communities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because the complaints among the Asian American parents are first world problems. When half the kids in your district aren’t fed, aren’t meeting grade level standards, and are adversely impacted by covid, poverty, and unemployment, it’s hard to care about who gets into magnet programs.

What are you rambling about? Asians can be low income. The county is doing a huge amount with food assistance as are many private organizations and individual schools. These issues were also pre-covid and funny thing, people like you didn't care or did MCPS.

Actually, MCPS has focused significantly on these issues before covid. And while there are some low-income Asians, no, it’s only a tiny percentage, compared with the more than half the county’s African American and Hispanic students who are low-income.

I'm not a fan of hand-waving away the low-income Asian-Americans in Montgomery County. There are lots of Asian-Americans in Montgomery County who aren't affluent Chinese-Americans in Potomac or affluent Indian-Americans in Clarksburg.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because the complaints among the Asian American parents are first world problems. When half the kids in your district aren’t fed, aren’t meeting grade level standards, and are adversely impacted by covid, poverty, and unemployment, it’s hard to care about who gets into magnet programs.

What are you rambling about? Asians can be low income. The county is doing a huge amount with food assistance as are many private organizations and individual schools. These issues were also pre-covid and funny thing, people like you didn't care or did MCPS.

Actually, MCPS has focused significantly on these issues before covid. And while there are some low-income Asians, no, it’s only a tiny percentage, compared with the more than half the county’s African American and Hispanic students who are low-income.

I'm not a fan of hand-waving away the low-income Asian-Americans in Montgomery County. There are lots of Asian-Americans in Montgomery County who aren't affluent Chinese-Americans in Potomac or affluent Indian-Americans in Clarksburg.

Not the PP, but it is exactly those groups (affluent Chinese-Americans in Potomac and Indian-Americans in Clarksburg) that are filing lawsuits and claiming systemic discrimination based on race. That's why we're talking about them. A poor or working class Asian American in Silver Spring or Wheaton is actually going to benefit from a magnet admissions policy that puts some weight on geographic diversity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because the complaints among the Asian American parents are first world problems. When half the kids in your district aren’t fed, aren’t meeting grade level standards, and are adversely impacted by covid, poverty, and unemployment, it’s hard to care about who gets into magnet programs.

What are you rambling about? Asians can be low income. The county is doing a huge amount with food assistance as are many private organizations and individual schools. These issues were also pre-covid and funny thing, people like you didn't care or did MCPS.

Actually, MCPS has focused significantly on these issues before covid. And while there are some low-income Asians, no, it’s only a tiny percentage, compared with the more than half the county’s African American and Hispanic students who are low-income.

I'm not a fan of hand-waving away the low-income Asian-Americans in Montgomery County. There are lots of Asian-Americans in Montgomery County who aren't affluent Chinese-Americans in Potomac or affluent Indian-Americans in Clarksburg.

Define lots. 30% of all the students in the county are low-income and either black or Hispanic. Somewhere less than 5% are low-income and Asian American — could be 1%, 2% but MCPS doesn’t county numbers that small. And for those students — who presumably don’t live in Potomac — they actually have an advantage due to geography.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because the complaints among the Asian American parents are first world problems. When half the kids in your district aren’t fed, aren’t meeting grade level standards, and are adversely impacted by covid, poverty, and unemployment, it’s hard to care about who gets into magnet programs.

What are you rambling about? Asians can be low income. The county is doing a huge amount with food assistance as are many private organizations and individual schools. These issues were also pre-covid and funny thing, people like you didn't care or did MCPS.

Actually, MCPS has focused significantly on these issues before covid. And while there are some low-income Asians, no, it’s only a tiny percentage, compared with the more than half the county’s African American and Hispanic students who are low-income.

I'm not a fan of hand-waving away the low-income Asian-Americans in Montgomery County. There are lots of Asian-Americans in Montgomery County who aren't affluent Chinese-Americans in Potomac or affluent Indian-Americans in Clarksburg.

Not the PP, but it is exactly those groups (affluent Chinese-Americans in Potomac and Indian-Americans in Clarksburg) that are filing lawsuits and claiming systemic discrimination based on race. That's why we're talking about them. A poor or working class Asian American in Silver Spring or Wheaton is actually going to benefit from a magnet admissions policy that puts some weight on geographic diversity.

There are multiple issues here.

1. Which groups of Asian-Americans are filing lawsuits against MCPS?
2. What are the demographic and geographic characteristics of Asian-Americans in Montgomery County?
3. What percentage of Asian-Americans students in MCPS receive FARMs?

Let's not conflate them, please.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because the complaints among the Asian American parents are first world problems. When half the kids in your district aren’t fed, aren’t meeting grade level standards, and are adversely impacted by covid, poverty, and unemployment, it’s hard to care about who gets into magnet programs.

What are you rambling about? Asians can be low income. The county is doing a huge amount with food assistance as are many private organizations and individual schools. These issues were also pre-covid and funny thing, people like you didn't care or did MCPS.

Actually, MCPS has focused significantly on these issues before covid. And while there are some low-income Asians, no, it’s only a tiny percentage, compared with the more than half the county’s African American and Hispanic students who are low-income.

I'm not a fan of hand-waving away the low-income Asian-Americans in Montgomery County. There are lots of Asian-Americans in Montgomery County who aren't affluent Chinese-Americans in Potomac or affluent Indian-Americans in Clarksburg.

Not the PP, but it is exactly those groups (affluent Chinese-Americans in Potomac and Indian-Americans in Clarksburg) that are filing lawsuits and claiming systemic discrimination based on race. That's why we're talking about them. A poor or working class Asian American in Silver Spring or Wheaton is actually going to benefit from a magnet admissions policy that puts some weight on geographic diversity.

Very few white/asian kids in Silver Spring and Wheaton get in regardless of income. We don't have the same opportunities.

[Anonymous]

There are multiple issues here.

1. Which groups of Asian-Americans are filing lawsuits against MCPS?
2. What are the demographic and geographic characteristics of Asian-Americans in Montgomery County?
3. What percentage of Asian-Americans students in MCPS receive FARMs?

Let's not conflate them, please.

I agree that we need to disaggregate these questions, but the OP's query seemed pretty laser focused on the group that makes up the answer to Question 1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because the complaints among the Asian American parents are first world problems. When half the kids in your district aren’t fed, aren’t meeting grade level standards, and are adversely impacted by covid, poverty, and unemployment, it’s hard to care about who gets into magnet programs.

What are you rambling about? Asians can be low income. The county is doing a huge amount with food assistance as are many private organizations and individual schools. These issues were also pre-covid and funny thing, people like you didn't care or did MCPS.

Actually, MCPS has focused significantly on these issues before covid. And while there are some low-income Asians, no, it’s only a tiny percentage, compared with the more than half the county’s African American and Hispanic students who are low-income.

I'm not a fan of hand-waving away the low-income Asian-Americans in Montgomery County. There are lots of Asian-Americans in Montgomery County who aren't affluent Chinese-Americans in Potomac or affluent Indian-Americans in Clarksburg.

Not the PP, but it is exactly those groups (affluent Chinese-Americans in Potomac and Indian-Americans in Clarksburg) that are filing lawsuits and claiming systemic discrimination based on race. That's why we're talking about them. A poor or working class Asian American in Silver Spring or Wheaton is actually going to benefit from a magnet admissions policy that puts some weight on geographic diversity.

Very few white/asian kids in Silver Spring and Wheaton get in regardless of income. We don't have the same opportunities.

You think white kids need MORE opportunities? How out of touch are you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because the complaints among the Asian American parents are first world problems. When half the kids in your district aren’t fed, aren’t meeting grade level standards, and are adversely impacted by covid, poverty, and unemployment, it’s hard to care about who gets into magnet programs.

What are you rambling about? Asians can be low income. The county is doing a huge amount with food assistance as are many private organizations and individual schools. These issues were also pre-covid and funny thing, people like you didn't care or did MCPS.

Actually, MCPS has focused significantly on these issues before covid. And while there are some low-income Asians, no, it’s only a tiny percentage, compared with the more than half the county’s African American and Hispanic students who are low-income.

I'm not a fan of hand-waving away the low-income Asian-Americans in Montgomery County. There are lots of Asian-Americans in Montgomery County who aren't affluent Chinese-Americans in Potomac or affluent Indian-Americans in Clarksburg.

Not the PP, but it is exactly those groups (affluent Chinese-Americans in Potomac and Indian-Americans in Clarksburg) that are filing lawsuits and claiming systemic discrimination based on race. That's why we're talking about them. A poor or working class Asian American in Silver Spring or Wheaton is actually going to benefit from a magnet admissions policy that puts some weight on geographic diversity.

Very few white/asian kids in Silver Spring and Wheaton get in regardless of income. We don't have the same opportunities.

You think white kids need MORE opportunities? How out of touch are you?

NP, but it sounds like the poster is talking specifically about white kids who are poor, not white kids in general.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because the complaints among the Asian American parents are first world problems. When half the kids in your district aren’t fed, aren’t meeting grade level standards, and are adversely impacted by covid, poverty, and unemployment, it’s hard to care about who gets into magnet programs.

What are you rambling about? Asians can be low income. The county is doing a huge amount with food assistance as are many private organizations and individual schools. These issues were also pre-covid and funny thing, people like you didn't care or did MCPS.

Actually, MCPS has focused significantly on these issues before covid. And while there are some low-income Asians, no, it’s only a tiny percentage, compared with the more than half the county’s African American and Hispanic students who are low-income.

+1 Asian Americans can absolutely be low income, and have the same access to support for low-income students as anyone else (including any "boost" to applications for criteria-based programs). However, in general in the DMV, Asian Americans tend not to be low-income. This is different than New York or Minneapolis or Sacramento, where immigration patterns have created clusters of low-income Asian American communities.

Good post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

There are multiple issues here.

1. Which groups of Asian-Americans are filing lawsuits against MCPS?
2. What are the demographic and geographic characteristics of Asian-Americans in Montgomery County?
3. What percentage of Asian-Americans students in MCPS receive FARMs?

Let's not conflate them, please.

I agree that we need to disaggregate these questions, but the OP's query seemed pretty laser focused on the group that makes up the answer to Question 1.

I think the answers to these questions are important but not to OP's question. My child who does not live in those Asian areas and who is not part of the lawsuit feels targeted as a result of vitriol regarding magnet changes. Teachers assume my child is "prepped" if DC does well on anything. We barely know what that is except for on this board. White kids and minority kids have said certain things to my child related to the magnet changes that are pretty offensive. My child did not even get in!

[Anonymous]

It's like if you are Asian and do well someone at home is hothousing you. If you are not Asian it's a result of you just being a gifted. If you are Asian you can't win in this county IMO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

There are multiple issues here.

1. Which groups of Asian-Americans are filing lawsuits against MCPS?
2. What are the demographic and geographic characteristics of Asian-Americans in Montgomery County?
3. What percentage of Asian-Americans students in MCPS receive FARMs?

Let's not conflate them, please.

I agree that we need to disaggregate these questions, but the OP's query seemed pretty laser focused on the group that makes up the answer to Question 1.

I think the answers to these questions are important but not to OP's question. My child who does not live in those Asian areas and who is not part of the lawsuit feels targeted as a result of vitriol regarding magnet changes. Teachers assume my child is "prepped" if DC does well on anything. We barely know what that is except for on this board. White kids and minority kids have said certain things to my child related to the magnet changes that are pretty offensive. My child did not even get in!

Really? 10-year-olds are actually talking about who is “prepped”? Teachers are making assumptions? How do you know this? I have heard vitriol on this board but never from children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

There are multiple issues here.

1. Which groups of Asian-Americans are filing lawsuits against MCPS?
2. What are the demographic and geographic characteristics of Asian-Americans in Montgomery County?
3. What percentage of Asian-Americans students in MCPS receive FARMs?

Let's not conflate them, please.

I agree that we need to disaggregate these questions, but the OP's query seemed pretty laser focused on the group that makes up the answer to Question 1.

I think the answers to these questions are important but not to OP's question. My child who does not live in those Asian areas and who is not part of the lawsuit feels targeted as a result of vitriol regarding magnet changes. Teachers assume my child is "prepped" if DC does well on anything. We barely know what that is except for on this board. White kids and minority kids have said certain things to my child related to the magnet changes that are pretty offensive. My child did not even get in!

So, this is absolutely a real problem. Kids are hearing racially disparaging comments at home, and repeating them in school. It's not new, but it's troubling and needs to be addressed.