Loudoun - the class act of DMV

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:wait, let me get this straight, arlington's and loudoun's top teams had games scheduled, arlington then entered a tournament to beat up on other clubs' second teams, and loudoun is the bad guy?

This isn't actually accurate. But yes Loudoun is the bad guy. Loudoun had two options:

1. Agree to accommodate Arlington's request to reschedule. This isn't a big deal - reschedule requests happen all the time for lots of reasons. They are always agreed to. No real difficulty for anyone. Forty kids get to play a game of soccer this weekend.

2. Refuse. Forty kids don't get a game of soccer this weekend. Loudoun get to record three points in the league table. This is not good for Arlington's kids or Loudoun's kids who I bet would prefer to play the game than sit at home. The only people who benefit are the people who have a financial interest in Loudoun soccer - and they are perfectly prepared to put that interest ahead of everyone else.

1. It's only Loudoun's kids who don't get to play this weekend. Remember, Arlington double-booked.

2. How, exactly, would someone benefit from a forfeit? Do their coach contracts provide bonuses for forfeited games? This makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ECNL teams playing in state cup is nothing more than a trophy grab. And wanting to change the ECNL schedule to accommodate is even more embarrassing. And to post this is even more embarrassing.

Such nonsense. Doubtful that anybody other than VDA could do nearly as well as Arlington in the tournament. Not a trophy grab for any of them. At all. They would be exposed for what they are.

[Anonymous]

It seems that the coaches of the old ECNL teams have done a good job convincing the parents that the State cup was not good enough for their elite teams, making thereby sure that they do not play SOCA, Alexandria, Beach, or Legacy.
You would have thought that repeated defeats against the new ECNL teams would have enlightened the parents about the true level of their DS’ s elite teams, but some of them do not seem to have gone beyond the denial/anger stages of their grieving process.

[Anonymous]

I'm just happy someone reminded me what to think about Loudoun because it had been like 72 hours without any negative posts and I wasn't sure what to do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:wait, let me get this straight, arlington's and loudoun's top teams had games scheduled, arlington then entered a tournament to beat up on other clubs' second teams, and loudoun is the bad guy?

This isn't actually accurate. But yes Loudoun is the bad guy. Loudoun had two options:

1. Agree to accommodate Arlington's request to reschedule. This isn't a big deal - reschedule requests happen all the time for lots of reasons. They are always agreed to. No real difficulty for anyone. Forty kids get to play a game of soccer this weekend.

2. Refuse. Forty kids don't get a game of soccer this weekend. Loudoun get to record three points in the league table. This is not good for Arlington's kids or Loudoun's kids who I bet would prefer to play the game than sit at home. The only people who benefit are the people who have a financial interest in Loudoun soccer - and they are perfectly prepared to put that interest ahead of everyone else.

1. It's only Loudoun's kids who don't get to play this weekend. Remember, Arlington double-booked.

2. How, exactly, would someone benefit from a forfeit? Do their coach contracts provide bonuses for forfeited games? This makes no sense.

I guess you don't know Loudoun. The appearance of success drives customers and thus money. For the vast majority of parents considering Loudoun for their kids they will simply see that Loudoun beat Arlington in a league match and/or see a higher ranking or that Loudoun finished teh season with more points than McLean. Loudoun are already having trouble retaining talent on their top teams and are probably nervous of the situation geting worse.

What is sad is that they don't seem to ever realize that this sort of behavior is precisely why parents end up removing their kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ECNL teams playing in state cup is nothing more than a trophy grab. And wanting to change the ECNL schedule to accommodate is even more embarrassing. And to post this is even more embarrassing.

Such nonsense. Doubtful that anybody other than VDA could do nearly as well as Arlington in the tournament. Not a trophy grab for any of them. At all. They would be exposed for what they are.

+1. Exactly. Plenty of strong teams in the state cup. McLean entered its ECNL teams and didn't qualify for a single semi final. I doubt Loudoun would do any better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm just happy someone reminded me what to think about Loudoun because it had been like 72 hours without any negative posts and I wasn't sure what to do.

Bashing Loudoun is a feature of the DMV youth soccer scene .

But - to be fair - they bring it upon themselves by the way they treat everyone: kids, parents, other clubs, officials. Basically everyone who end up dealing with them walks away with an unpleasant feeling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:wait, let me get this straight, arlington's and loudoun's top teams had games scheduled, arlington then entered a tournament to beat up on other clubs' second teams, and loudoun is the bad guy?

This isn't actually accurate. But yes Loudoun is the bad guy. Loudoun had two options:

1. Agree to accommodate Arlington's request to reschedule. This isn't a big deal - reschedule requests happen all the time for lots of reasons. They are always agreed to. No real difficulty for anyone. Forty kids get to play a game of soccer this weekend.

2. Refuse. Forty kids don't get a game of soccer this weekend. Loudoun get to record three points in the league table. This is not good for Arlington's kids or Loudoun's kids who I bet would prefer to play the game than sit at home. The only people who benefit are the people who have a financial interest in Loudoun soccer - and they are perfectly prepared to put that interest ahead of everyone else.

1. It's only Loudoun's kids who don't get to play this weekend. Remember, Arlington double-booked.

2. How, exactly, would someone benefit from a forfeit? Do their coach contracts provide bonuses for forfeited games? This makes no sense.

I guess you don't know Loudoun. The appearance of success drives customers and thus money. For the vast majority of parents considering Loudoun for their kids they will simply see that Loudoun beat Arlington in a league match and/or see a higher ranking or that Loudoun finished teh season with more points than McLean. Loudoun are already having trouble retaining talent on their top teams and are probably nervous of the situation geting worse.

What is sad is that they don't seem to ever realize that this sort of behavior is precisely why parents end up removing their kids.

How would a parent in Arlington know that Loudoun is having trouble retaining talent on specific teams? It's almost like you have a narrative to you'd like to spread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:wait, let me get this straight, arlington's and loudoun's top teams had games scheduled, arlington then entered a tournament to beat up on other clubs' second teams, and loudoun is the bad guy?

This isn't actually accurate. But yes Loudoun is the bad guy. Loudoun had two options:

1. Agree to accommodate Arlington's request to reschedule. This isn't a big deal - reschedule requests happen all the time for lots of reasons. They are always agreed to. No real difficulty for anyone. Forty kids get to play a game of soccer this weekend.

2. Refuse. Forty kids don't get a game of soccer this weekend. Loudoun get to record three points in the league table. This is not good for Arlington's kids or Loudoun's kids who I bet would prefer to play the game than sit at home. The only people who benefit are the people who have a financial interest in Loudoun soccer - and they are perfectly prepared to put that interest ahead of everyone else.

1. It's only Loudoun's kids who don't get to play this weekend. Remember, Arlington double-booked.

2. How, exactly, would someone benefit from a forfeit? Do their coach contracts provide bonuses for forfeited games? This makes no sense.

I guess you don't know Loudoun. The appearance of success drives customers and thus money. For the vast majority of parents considering Loudoun for their kids they will simply see that Loudoun beat Arlington in a league match and/or see a higher ranking or that Loudoun finished teh season with more points than McLean. Loudoun are already having trouble retaining talent on their top teams and are probably nervous of the situation geting worse.

What is sad is that they don't seem to ever realize that this sort of behavior is precisely why parents end up removing their kids.

How would a parent in Arlington know that Loudoun is having trouble retaining talent on specific teams? It's almost like you have a narrative to you'd like to spread.

PP here. I'm not an Arlington parent although I know quite a few of them and quite a few ex-Loudoun parents as well. Most of the parents of the top 30-40 kids in an age group in the DMV area know of each other and many of the kids from a year older or younger. We see the same kids year after year - in many cases our kids have played on some team or another together in the past - or they went to the same coaching clinics over the years - or they went to P2P together - or the national team trials. They play pickup games together as they get older, and they play in the Bolivian league together. We chat when we meet at games and we know which clubs are losing kids and where they are going. So sure I don't know about every kid at Loudoun or even most of them. But I know when four or five of the best ones leave for example - and I know where they go.

[Anonymous]

State cup is a joke for girls . This must be a boys thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:wait, let me get this straight, arlington's and loudoun's top teams had games scheduled, arlington then entered a tournament to beat up on other clubs' second teams, and loudoun is the bad guy?

This isn't actually accurate. But yes Loudoun is the bad guy. Loudoun had two options:

1. Agree to accommodate Arlington's request to reschedule. This isn't a big deal - reschedule requests happen all the time for lots of reasons. They are always agreed to. No real difficulty for anyone. Forty kids get to play a game of soccer this weekend.

2. Refuse. Forty kids don't get a game of soccer this weekend. Loudoun get to record three points in the league table. This is not good for Arlington's kids or Loudoun's kids who I bet would prefer to play the game than sit at home. The only people who benefit are the people who have a financial interest in Loudoun soccer - and they are perfectly prepared to put that interest ahead of everyone else.

1. It's only Loudoun's kids who don't get to play this weekend. Remember, Arlington double-booked.

2. How, exactly, would someone benefit from a forfeit? Do their coach contracts provide bonuses for forfeited games? This makes no sense.

I guess you don't know Loudoun. The appearance of success drives customers and thus money. For the vast majority of parents considering Loudoun for their kids they will simply see that Loudoun beat Arlington in a league match and/or see a higher ranking or that Loudoun finished teh season with more points than McLean. Loudoun are already having trouble retaining talent on their top teams and are probably nervous of the situation geting worse.

What is sad is that they don't seem to ever realize that this sort of behavior is precisely why parents end up removing their kids.

How would a parent in Arlington know that Loudoun is having trouble retaining talent on specific teams? It's almost like you have a narrative to you'd like to spread.

PP here. I'm not an Arlington parent although I know quite a few of them and quite a few ex-Loudoun parents as well. Most of the parents of the top 30-40 kids in an age group in the DMV area know of each other and many of the kids from a year older or younger. We see the same kids year after year - in many cases our kids have played on some team or another together in the past - or they went to the same coaching clinics over the years - or they went to P2P together - or the national team trials. They play pickup games together as they get older, and they play in the Bolivian league together. We chat when we meet at games and we know which clubs are losing kids and where they are going. So sure I don't know about every kid at Loudoun or even most of them. But I know when four or five of the best ones leave for example - and I know where they go.

Sounds like you take it too seriously to me . But even I remember strong players from teams my DS plays several times a year, and notice when they show up on a different team.

[Anonymous]

Loudoun and Arlington deserve each other. Bring your popcorn!

[Anonymous]

This seems strange. Either "the" State Cup is a prestigious competition which is for top teams, or, it's "unfair" that the best players get the chance to compete. I don't really care about Loudoun, they can take the wins.

Every age group of State Cup has Arlington in the semi-finals. Nobody else can say that. Is everybody going to complain that Beach FC girls is basically dominating as well?

[Anonymous]

There is nothing new about Arlington top boy teams playing in the State cup. It was already the case last year, except for the U15.
The fact that they won only one final last year shows that it is competitive, at least in the final rounds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This seems strange. Either "the" State Cup is a prestigious competition which is for top teams, or, it's "unfair" that the best players get the chance to compete. I don't really care about Loudoun, they can take the wins.

Every age group of State Cup has Arlington in the semi-finals. Nobody else can say that. Is everybody going to complain that Beach FC girls is basically dominating as well?

Beach FC dominating girls state cup proves that state cup isn't a prestigious tournament.