I believe in affirmative action and racially balanced educational environments but...

[Anonymous]

White ppl feeling threatened by the success of Asian Americans. Sorry guys, but times are a changing!

Soon no more affirmative action! Your precious bastions of whiteness are going to look a whole lot more...yellow.

[Anonymous]

OP, racial rebalancing is illegal.

There are quite a lot of diversity among FCPS schools. You can find whatever racially balanced school to suit your needs. If you want more white in the mix you move to Vienna or McLean. But to force a racial rebalancing plan on a single school is illegal. Langley is mostly white, so should we bus in some black and hispanic kids to rebalance it racially?

[Anonymous]

You laugh but that is the end goal of these folks.

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

What is the end result for these TJ graduates? Do they end up being far more successful than everyone else in the country? Really, I don’t think this even matters. You can have your little school. It’s becoming tedious and boring now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is the end result for these TJ graduates? Do they end up being far more successful than everyone else in the country? Really, I don’t think this even matters. You can have your little school. It’s becoming tedious and boring now.

They conduct research in medicine, chemistry , physics, engineering and computer science etc. They create startups and tech companies responsible for innovations and patents. They become professors to train college students.

[Anonymous]

I've seen what's happening to TJ in other places. For example, once upon a time, the Internet was a fairly exclusive place - to use it, you'd need to have access (meaning most likely that you're affiliated with a university), you'd need the technical know-how to use it (computers weren't as universally user-friendly as they are now), and you'd need the money for the equipment (meaning a computer and Internet connection and/or the enrollment fees for a university). They weren't insurmountable barriers to entry, but they were barriers to entry, and the result was an Internet which was a bastion of wisdom.

Now the Internet has over-time become a bastion of reactionism and misinformation. Why? Because now, basically anyone can use the Internet, from kids to the most vile and ignorant people out there. You can get Internet access at Starbucks or the public library, and getting at least a user-friendly second-hand computer isn't much of a challenge. The information on the Internet hasn't disappeared, but it's been flooded by so much other stuff. People don't see that bastion of wisdom that the Internet once was as being that important anymore.

I think that what's happening to TJ (and APP, and advanced/GT programs in general) is just a reflection of that phenomenon. It's not that the academic needs of advanced and gifted students are necessarily better met now, or that their contribution to society is less significant than it once was. It's more like how we also cause the habitats of many species of bees, butterflies, frogs, etc, to disappear without realizing it, because the resources we can reappropriate from them are much more appealing. I don't know what resources administrators see in TJ which they'd like to reappropriate for their use, but I think that equity is less of a goal and more of a focus-group tested go to move to achieve whatever they're after. If equity was a goal, I'm suspecting that it would be possible to find much better strategies (including but not limited to spending the effort to identify minorities which benefit from a particular set of circumstances - like AAs - and then making sure not to disrupt them...)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the end result for these TJ graduates? Do they end up being far more successful than everyone else in the country? Really, I don’t think this even matters. You can have your little school. It’s becoming tedious and boring now.

They conduct research in medicine, chemistry , physics, engineering and computer science etc. They create startups and tech companies responsible for innovations and patents. They become professors to train college students.

Surely these positions are attainable by other means. TJ isn’t the be all end all?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is the end result for these TJ graduates? Do they end up being far more successful than everyone else in the country? Really, I don’t think this even matters. You can have your little school. It’s becoming tedious and boring now.

I'm not sure that everyone considers standing up for themselves tedious and boring. It's ironic how we need to change TJ in the name of being sensitive to certain minorities, but in the name of pushing that change we need to be insensitive to certain minorities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:What is the end result for these TJ graduates? Do they end up being far more successful than everyone else in the country? Really, I don’t think this even matters. You can have your little school. It’s becoming tedious and boring now.

They conduct research in medicine, chemistry , physics, engineering and computer science etc. They create startups and tech companies responsible for innovations and patents. They become professors to train college students.

Surely these positions are attainable by other means. TJ isn’t the be all end all?

Then the question is what percentage? I suspect substantial number of TJ graduates compared to 1 or 2 percent for a typical high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:look they have tried this before. They have lowered standards to try and get URM and then TJ has to offer remedial classes.

TJ should not be having to offer remedial classes they should be taking the best students period

Long term if you want to "fix" the FARMS/URM AAP needs to do a better job selecting gifted students instead of being used by pushy parents with above average students (but not always gifted) to get out of the gen ed curriculum.

The reason remedial classes had to be offered at TJ a few years ago was not that they had lowered standards. Actually, the reason was that so many kids had been prepped and tutored so that they appeared to be better at math than they actually were.

The overly prepped kids got to TJ and it was obvious to their math teachers that their fundamentals were weak, so the teachers required them to do remedial work during eighth period. This situation was part of the reason behind the overhaul of the TJ math program a few years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:look they have tried this before. They have lowered standards to try and get URM and then TJ has to offer remedial classes.

TJ should not be having to offer remedial classes they should be taking the best students period

Long term if you want to "fix" the FARMS/URM AAP needs to do a better job selecting gifted students instead of being used by pushy parents with above average students (but not always gifted) to get out of the gen ed curriculum.

The reason remedial classes had to be offered at TJ a few years ago was not that they had lowered standards. Actually, the reason was that so many kids had been prepped and tutored so that they appeared to be better at math than they actually were.

The overly prepped kids got to TJ and it was obvious to their math teachers that their fundamentals were weak, so the teachers required them to do remedial work during eighth period. This situation was part of the reason behind the overhaul of the TJ math program a few years ago.

So the new TJ students have not prepped for at least past 9 years. I knew there wasn't as much prep going on as suggested by a poster who seems obsessed with one prep center.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've seen what's happening to TJ in other places. For example, once upon a time, the Internet was a fairly exclusive place - to use it, you'd need to have access (meaning most likely that you're affiliated with a university), you'd need the technical know-how to use it (computers weren't as universally user-friendly as they are now), and you'd need the money for the equipment (meaning a computer and Internet connection and/or the enrollment fees for a university). They weren't insurmountable barriers to entry, but they were barriers to entry, and the result was an Internet which was a bastion of wisdom.

Now the Internet has over-time become a bastion of reactionism and misinformation. Why? Because now, basically anyone can use the Internet, from kids to the most vile and ignorant people out there. You can get Internet access at Starbucks or the public library, and getting at least a user-friendly second-hand computer isn't much of a challenge. The information on the Internet hasn't disappeared, but it's been flooded by so much other stuff. People don't see that bastion of wisdom that the Internet once was as being that important anymore.

I think that what's happening to TJ (and APP, and advanced/GT programs in general) is just a reflection of that phenomenon. It's not that the academic needs of advanced and gifted students are necessarily better met now, or that their contribution to society is less significant than it once was. It's more like how we also cause the habitats of many species of bees, butterflies, frogs, etc, to disappear without realizing it, because the resources we can reappropriate from them are much more appealing. I don't know what resources administrators see in TJ which they'd like to reappropriate for their use, but I think that equity is less of a goal and more of a focus-group tested go to move to achieve whatever they're after. If equity was a goal, I'm suspecting that it would be possible to find much better strategies (including but not limited to spending the effort to identify minorities which benefit from a particular set of circumstances - like AAs - and then making sure not to disrupt them...)

Yeah, not at all on point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is the end result for these TJ graduates? Do they end up being far more successful than everyone else in the country? Really, I don’t think this even matters. You can have your little school. It’s becoming tedious and boring now.

They conduct research in medicine, chemistry , physics, engineering and computer science etc. They create startups and tech companies responsible for innovations and patents. They become professors to train college students.

Surely these positions are attainable by other means. TJ isn’t the be all end all?

Then the question is what percentage? I suspect substantial number of TJ graduates compared to 1 or 2 percent for a typical high school.

Suspicion is not the same as proof but the unfettered arrogance of the TJ community requires swift action to dismantle this racist, elitist school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the end result for these TJ graduates? Do they end up being far more successful than everyone else in the country? Really, I don’t think this even matters. You can have your little school. It’s becoming tedious and boring now.

They conduct research in medicine, chemistry , physics, engineering and computer science etc. They create startups and tech companies responsible for innovations and patents. They become professors to train college students.

Surely these positions are attainable by other means. TJ isn’t the be all end all?

Then the question is what percentage? I suspect substantial number of TJ graduates compared to 1 or 2 percent for a typical high school.

Suspicion is not the same as proof but the unfettered arrogance of the TJ community requires swift action to dismantle this racist, elitist school.

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