As a cyclist, I don't have any patience for others who run down pedestrians. Shooting people may be a bit much, but defending oneself is reasonable. |
What's really happening here is that you notice the bicyclists who don't follow the rules because they bother you; you don't notice the ones who do, and you also don't notice the many drivers who don't follow the rules, either, because you're totally used to it. |
Are you suggesting pedestrians carry guns to defend themselves? I’ve known two people (usually fairly normal off cycle) crash and seriously hurt themselves and the pedestrians they ran over. |
Not at all. I don't think guns play any role in it and would help nothing other than stoking the egos of wannabe tough guys. If I'm walking in a crosswalk and someone on a bike is coming at me, I wouldn't be worried about protecting myself. A stiff arm? A bag? I don't really know. That said, I'm far more worried about someone driving a car who is endangering me. It happens far more often and would hurt me a lot more if hit. And I have no real way of defending myself. It's one reason I support speed governors on cars. 20mph limit is ok for downtown DC. |
| is anyone following the rules in DC? you see more and more cars running red lights, stop signs. It is a free for all out there. So complaining about bikes, who do not require a drivers license to ride, seem humorous at best. |
You realize 45 is a maximum, not a minimum, right? |
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Nobody - drivers, pedestrians, cyclists - follow the rules. |
As a cyclist/driver/pedestrian/human, I have no patience for people who advocate running down or shooting people, period. I get it, some cyclist ride like entitled a-holes. Some drivers drive like entitled a-holes. Most members of both groups follow most of the rules and generally act safely. This us/them attitude helps nobody. Roads are public goods, which means they need to be shared and governed by sensible, enforced rules. |
How is it putting hundreds of lives in jeopardy to make people drive 20 in a 45? Is your car wired like the bus in “Speed” so it’ll explode if it doesn’t go fast enough? The only thing that’s happening to the hundreds of lives slowed down in your ridiculous hypothetical is that they’ll be briefly inconvenienced until they pass the cyclist, which, if experience is any guide, they’ll do without leaving the legally required three feet of space to the side as they go by. |
| Cyclists-why do you think it's ok to take up a hobby that will inconvenience numerous people you've never met? What's wrong with the bike trails? Also keep in mind that not only do I have to safely pass you but seven other idiots within the next quarter mile. I can't just jump onto the bike path to get away from you. I don't want to hit you I just want to get where I'm going (just like you!!!!!!!). Simply put the amount of peds and bikes on places like Beach Drive ARE creating a safety hazard. Please exercise some common sense. This isn't Holland. |
They haven't heard of Peleton! |
It’s not a hobby. It’s how I get around. It’s transportation. |
Then get around on the f$cking bike path. |
I don’t even own a bike but as someone who wants to be able to walk around my own damn neighborhood without feeling a constant low level dread of being hurt or killed by an impatient, distracted or aggressive driver.... I could not possibly have less sympathy for your big baby whining about being “inconvenienced”. Suck it up buttercup, they’re legally allowed to be on the road and they don’t care about your precious feelings. Someone choosing to pilot a climate controlled 5000 lb metal tank that has the power to kill everyone outside it on public roads is whining that they’ll get to their destination in 12.5 min instead of 11 min? No one else considers that a huge public crisis, sorry! |
No. |